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Bruce: wow - you paint a very disturbing picture indeed - I hope (I'd say "pray" if I was a believer) that your view of a dystopian American society post Nov 5, 2020 is grossly exaggerated! I disagree entirely!!Don, I have lost faith in the ability of our government to hold reliable independent elections where The People are assured that only one vote by one person is counted. I believe both parties would like to corrupt the mail in systems to have their way. I believe they are doing all they can to corrupt the system to gain their advantage. The Covid pandemic has given them the tool to pervert the elections and break the trust of the people completely.
Do not be surprised when after this election this country breaks down into civil unrest over this issue. You think the race issue is a big deal? I think this election will cause far greater harm. The divide is deep. The United States of America is dying... all that remains is for the shooting to begin.
Proper civil discourse is ended and will not soon be restored. The passions on both sides run high. There has only been one other time when the passions ran as they do today. It was the late 1850's. In 1860, the shooting began. Five years later, the Northern Federalists as they were called prevailed because they had industry. The Southern Confederates, who believed that the Constitution granted States the right to determine governance in the local communities, rejected the concept that a strong central government was the right solution for the people. Most think the issue was Slavery. Slavery was the trigger. Slavery was the point around which people could rally. The issue was never about slaves. The North was happy to accept the freed slaves and move them into ghettos where they could not be equal to the white northerners. One form of slavery was ended and a new form was created.
The point? When the rhetoric divides to the degree we are now divided, the form of government that is in place will end and be replaced after the shooting ends. Yes, I am expecting us to move closer to armed conflict over the next 4 years. I don't know what the trigger will be... but it is all but set up.
Despite a highly educated public, history is about to repeat (as it has almost since man appeared in this place we call the world). The only variable I see is the time until the first shots are fired. Maybe I am an old fool who has lost his grip on what is going on. Maybe the Covid has depressed me to the point of giving up all hope.
No, I don't think so. I am engaged in the election process listening to both sides, trying to make an informed, intelligent and educated decision. It is hard to get proper information from both.
I'll be 65 on Inauguration day. I expect my birthday to be a very difficult day.
Of course, the Government of a country is vitally important to the way that the nation operates - but Americans seem to be such a resilient lot and I suspect (expect, really) that there is still much common good-will across the political voter divide.
Yes, the co-existence of COVID during the election process must have added a coffin-like pall over events and I too am bitterly disappointed that the wealthiest (and arguably, the most politically vibrant) country on the planet has presented those 2 x particular candidates as the best of their lot for the position of POTUS. And also yes, try as I have - I have never understood America's gun culture and its myopic zeal (which is pretty-much unique in the world) for an armed society
However, at its heart-the essence of your society shouldn't be any different from those of other first world countries who are trying to battle very similar issues. America, Americans and your fellow citizens are still the same folk that created your neighborhoods before Trump/Biden appeared on the political stage (and before COVID appeared); they still have the same societal value-sets and they still have the same motivations for their fellow citizens!!
Contrary to your view and fuzzy as it is, my crystal ball tells me that the future is good -I've absolutely no doubt that the next generation will be our salvation; they will learn from our mistakes and they will build on our successes!!
Now, as for being 65 on 20 January 2021 - please explain how this happened? What portent did your parents have for your birth-date and more importantly -how do you justify being so disgustingly young?
Don
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