Passat B8 early 2015, Retrofitting A5 front camera + DLA + Lane assist- Finished

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Why they don’t want to calibrate? Official workshop have all the means and training to do it. Just tell them that the camera just lost it’s calibration, don’t tell them it’s retrofitted. They think it’s jinxed after you tell them :)

It should be possible to do by yourself by having a print shop print you the board in right size. Then position it correctly and run calibration.
Doing it with VCDS, maybe not. Using ODIS, yes deflnitely.
 
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I'd love to!!! I'll search for a B'nB and I come soon:p
I hope it's just a question of time to put this board at the right place... and run VCDS A5 basic setting.
Because it is from a different car, the vin in the camera wont match the car. It is done with ODIS and GFF. Car has to be in the correct position in relation to the calibration screen. Measurements are entered for each wheel arch to the floor, and input as you go along. Once ODIS is happy you have calibrated correctly the VIN is updated and everything fixed
 
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Gentlemen, I really can't condone discussion of cloned/pirated products here, not even ODIS.

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I understand but I don't know ODIS, I thought VCDS could provide full access to VAG car. As ODIS seems to be unbuyable, I'm really asking how I'll manage to calibrate the camera???:banghead:
Yoda said "No clone here!" young Padawan... so how will the force be with me to calibrate the camera?:rolleyes:
 
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If you can get to the UK I highly recommend rhinopower who can sort all of your calibration out he did mine it works perfectly.
 
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If I could, sure I will!!! Now it's no longer a question of money. A society can do it for 550€ (both ACC and camera) with a complete support, not the vehicule on the ground. But it's about four hours driving to get there... hmmmm
 
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550€? That is a realllly steep price...and with a long drive? Where in France are you, if I may ask?
 
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It’s expensive. In Finland (and we are very expensive country) it’s 300€ for camera and acc both and they do full wheel alignment.
 
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Oh it's not a secret:D! I live near Luxemburg. The society who can do calibration is in Auxerre. I agree with you, it's expensive.
 
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I have now wires coming from the windscreen through the roof and dash board. T17 9 and 11 pin's and ground are connected. I'll connect t20 pin's to can gateway this weekend. I would lije to connect + to the sc36 or 37 fuse but I don't manage to reach the hole behind the fuse board. How did you do it?
And please Symb, how did you pull out this evil's double clip on A column? I do as you said and it came, no problem... but now I want to replace the column...
Many thanks for the answers.
PS: I'll post some good photos to complete this great tutorial;)
I dismantled the clip and assembled it back to the trim piece so I could just plug it back in.


Yes yes, single connector works just fine. I thought you were going to use piggyback fuse :)

And I disagree on the can module �� Maybe I’m getting old but unplugging and dismantling the connector, soldering wires to the existing wires and all this laying on your back in inhuman position, soldering in a very tight and dark place �� No thank you anymore. Done that enough ��

Anyway, we are maybe diverting from the topic a bit.
Aww, come on now, it wasn't THAT bad. :cool:


So, I just have to plug ACC sensor. I made a fuse connector to test it now.
Here is the scan after enabling A5 in Can gateway 19.

Code:
[Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist       Labels: 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
Control Module Part Number: 3Q0 980 654     HW: 3Q0 980 654 
  Component and/or Version: MQB_B_MFK     H04 0010
           Software Coding: 0004080204000401002200448050A10084000E200040
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00015 115 08193
              ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 001001 (VW48)
                       ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB_001_VW36.rod
                      VCID: 74B121E99E3F2AB7DE9-8020
5 Faults Found:

0768 - No Basic Setting 
          B2010 00 [009] - -
          [Calibration_VIN_mismatch]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 43747 km
                    Date: 2019.09.14
                    Time: 16:18:15

                    Control Module temperature: 31 °C
                    Outside air temperature: 28.0 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    System run time: 2.7 s
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.7 V
                    mid: 00 51
                    Status of camera: operational
                    Engine_Running_Info: 0
                    Software_Info_4: 0
                    Software_Info_3: 1
                    Software_Info_2: 0
                    Software_Info_1: 0

0646 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
          U1014 00 [009] - -
          [Variant_coding_failure]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 43747 km
                    Date: 2019.09.14
                    Time: 16:18:15

                    Control Module temperature: 31 °C
                    Outside air temperature: 28.0 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    System run time: 2.7 s
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.7 V
                    mid: 00 28
                    Status of camera: operational
                    Engine_Running_Info: 0
                    Software_Info_4: 0
                    Software_Info_3: 1
                    Software_Info_2: 0
                    Software_Info_1: 0

1122675 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [TIMEOUT_LWR_AFS_02]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 43747 km
                    Date: 2019.09.14
                    Time: 16:18:14

                    Control Module temperature: 31 °C
                    Outside air temperature: 28.0 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    System run time: 1.1 s
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.2 V
                    mid: 01 E7
                    Status of camera: Initializing
                    Engine_Running_Info: 0
                    Software_Info_4: 0
                    Software_Info_3: 1
                    Software_Info_2: 0
                    Software_Info_1: 0

1122597 - Local Data Bus 
          U1169 00 [009] - Missing Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 43747 km
                    Date: 2019.09.14
                    Time: 16:18:14

                    Control Module temperature: 31 °C
                    Outside air temperature: 28.0 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    System run time: 1.1 s
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.2 V
                    mid: 01 41
                    Status of camera: Initializing
                    Engine_Running_Info: 0
                    Software_Info_4: 0
                    Software_Info_3: 1
                    Software_Info_2: 0
                    Software_Info_1: 0

0659 - Steering 
          C10AC F2 [009] - Lane-Holding Assistance Not Coded
          [HC_interface_at_the_steering_not_activated]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 43747 km
                    Date: 2019.09.14
                    Time: 16:18:16

                    Control Module temperature: 31 °C
                    Outside air temperature: 28.0 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    System run time: 3.3 s
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.7 V
                    mid: 02 A0
                    Status of camera: System malfunction
                    Engine_Running_Info: 0
                    Software_Info_4: 0
                    Software_Info_3: 1
                    Software_Info_2: 0
                    Software_Info_1: 0
Remember that when calibrating:

0768 - No Basic Setting
B2010 00 [009] - -
[Calibration_VIN_mismatch]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

This is the only allowed active fault at the A5 module.
 
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Oh it's not a secret:D! I live near Luxemburg. The society who can do calibration is in Auxerre. I agree with you, it's expensive.
Any luck with your calibration? Did you change the windscreen or do you have some DIY solution for the camera?
I partially understand the dealer's POV if latter.
 
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Hello,
The new windscreen is ordered and the local bodybuilder will do the job.
For calibration, I'll do it in my garage... it'll take a long long time with many head scratchings!:rolleyes: VW Luxemburg also didn't want to calibrate camera... "What a wonderful world":facepalm:
 
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The target is printed on Tivek to be re-usable. A friend made a target with solidworks at 1:1 scale to avoid any precision trouble. It cost 90€ but it's a real professionnal work.
 
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Anybody can tell me how to do with VCDS? I looked at "basic settings" for A5 module and saw "searching target", I think it's the first thing to do but after that???
 
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I’m pretty much 100% sure you can’t :(
 
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All over the net I found this on every systems (VCDS, ODIS, OBD11...)
A5 controller
security access 20103
Basic settings
1. search target
2. initial online calibration
3. static calibration (customer service)
4. static calibration ( end of assembly line mode)

I'll try this when I'll have time but as NTech said "No idea, but if that should be an problem for VCDS, I guess it would also be a problem for odis. "
 
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Post your current Autoscan and Controller Channel map here.
Have you been online on erwin, for procedure ?
 
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VCDS and ODIS work a bit differently here. For ODIS this is no problem with GFF (guided fault finding). VCDS does not have this kind of automated functionality which means you need to know the exact procedure and in exact order to have it done. And even that is not 100% sure it will be successful.

Remember that ODIS is a dealer workshop tool, VCDS is for us hobbyists.
 
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Hello NETech, my current autoscan is on page 6.
A5 controller channel map:
Code:
;SW:3Q0-980-654   HW:3Q0-980-654 ---  Frt Sens. Drv. Assist
;Component:MQB_B_MFK     H04 0010, Coding:000408020000040100061344C050A10094000E200020
;EV_MFKBoschMQBB,001001,EV_MFKBoschMQBB_001_VW36.rod
;Monday,07,October,2019,17:58:06:16465
;VCDS Version: Release 19.6.2 (x64)  Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
;VCID: 74B121E99E3F2AB7DDF-8020

IDE00001-Production mode,Deactivating ,3
IDE00820-ENG130919-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_EHR,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130920-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_HCA_lane,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130921-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_HCA_state,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130922-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_internal,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130916-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_lane,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130915-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_reserved,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130918-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_VZF/TSR,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130917-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_WLA,not activated ,1
IDE02332-Deactivate production mode,0 ,3
IDE04160-Direct. stab. assist speed threshold during towing mode,300 km/h,2
IDE04733-Road sign detection fusion mode,Road sign fusion ,1
IDE06425-Roller test bench mode: functional,not activated ,1
IDE07358-Distance to calibration field,1500 mm,2
IDE07596-Personalization of lane dept. warning Cl. 15 on,Last setting ,1
IDE09375-IDE05717-Axle offset-Front axle transverse position,2.80001 mm,4
IDE09375-IDE05718-Axle offset-Rear axle transverse position,0.400006 mm,4
IDE09376-IDE02001-Body height wheel house edge-Body height left front wheel house edge,719 mm,8
IDE09376-IDE02002-Body height wheel house edge-Body height right front wheel house edge,719 mm,8
IDE09376-IDE02003-Body height wheel house edge-Body height left rear wheel house edge,719 mm,8
IDE09376-IDE02004-Body height wheel house edge-Body height right rear wheel house edge,719 mm,8
IDE09391-MAS08824-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 1: x-coordinate,2400 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08825-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 1: y-coordinate,745 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08826-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 1: z-coordinate,1530 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08827-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 2: x-coordinate,2400 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08828-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 2: y-coordinate,-745 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08829-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 2: z-coordinate,1530 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08830-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 3: x-coordinate,2400 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08831-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 3: y-coordinate,745 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08832-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 3: z-coordinate,870 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08833-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 4: x-coordinate,2400 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08834-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 4: y-coordinate,-745 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08835-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 4: z-coordinate,870 mm,24
IDE10407-Personalization of intervention moment at T. 15 on,Early ,1
IDE10870-Switch-on condition: lane depart. warn.,on (setting via menu) ,1
IDE10871-System mode: lane depart. warn:,Steering wheel vibration not active ,1
IDE10872-Warning intensity: lane depart. warning,Medium ,1
IDE10873-BAP personalization,activated ,1
IDE10924-MAS02479-Initial calibration: result-Yaw angle,-0.320 °,8
IDE10924-MAS05286-Initial calibration: result-Roll angle,-0.069 °,8
IDE10924-MAS05287-Initial calibration: result-Pitch angle,0.533 °,8
IDE10924-MAS10678-Initial calibration: result-Camera height,1336 mm,8
ENG130776-ENG130840-Adaptation_tsr-Par_country_code_RSR,0 ,3
ENG130776-ENG130841-Adaptation_tsr-Par_country_code_VZF,0 ,3
ENG130776-ENG130838-Adaptation_tsr-Par_country_mode,automatic ,3
ENG130776-ENG130839-Adaptation_tsr-Par_relevance_mode,Enabled ,3
ENG120319-Mask_error_reactions_for_development,not activated ,1
ENG107577-Masked_fault_classes-,255 ,4
ENG107577-Masked_fault_classes-,255 ,4
ENG107577-Masked_fault_classes-,255 ,4
ENG107577-Masked_fault_classes-,255 ,4
ENG130777-standstill_mode,not activated ,1
ENG130781-ENG130836-WLA_adjustment-BrightnessThreshold_active,1 ,5
ENG130781-ENG130837-WLA_adjustment-BrightnessThreshold_passive,20 ,5
ENG130779-Xcp_interface,not activated ,1


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Even with security access code, it returns an error message when I try to enter real values for body heights...

What do you mean about Erwin? Procedure has been done by an other French guy ( same procedure) with OBD11 and it wasn't so hard to do!!! What's wrong with VCDS? For Hobbyists ok but it's not the cheapest tool!!! I hope and I think it can work!
 
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