NZ - Touran wants an R32 engine

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You can ask it, but you will receive the usual answer that vcds doesn't support it. :)
Anyways even if you do get it, my understanding about immo4c is that usual channel 50 adaption isn't possible on these units and altering vin immo-id etc... must be done via special software/hardware.

This is the case if it is immo4c, if it is immo4(aka immo4a as adaption) it can be done via adaption knowing all the SKC, but for SKC you must find someone with correct tools. Autoscan will help to determine the version.
 
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^ Thanks I'll look into it.

Also - local guy with "parts available" was pretty open to negotiation and wasn't asking too much, so:



I have a few more parts in the driveway :cool:
 
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You can ask it, but you will receive the usual answer that vcds doesn't support it. :)
Anyways even if you do get it, my understanding about immo4c is that usual channel 50 adaption isn't possible on these units and altering vin immo-id etc... must be done via special software/hardware.

This is the case if it is immo4c, if it is immo4(aka immo4a as adaption) it can be done via adaption knowing all the SKC, but for SKC you must find someone with correct tools. Autoscan will help to determine the version.
Autoscans:

Touran:
Code:
Monday,17,November,2014,18:52:47:42165
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20141022


VIN: WVGZZZ1TZ6W129773   License Plate: DMS886
Mileage: 120070km-74608mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1T (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVGZZZ1TZ6W129773   Mileage: 120070km-74608miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 06F 906 056 EM    HW: Hardware No 
   Component: MED9.5.10       G00 8229  
   Revision: --H03---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F3307625
   Coding: 0000075
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 78FFC7DA0B77FEE157B-802D

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No: 09G 927 750 CS
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0847  
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 0407A32A47BFAA014B3-8051

1 Fault Found:
01045 - Tiptronic Switch (F189) 
            008 - Implausible Signal

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-614-517-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 614 517 AC    HW: 1K0 614 517 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60-AT   0102  
   Revision: 00H13001    
   Coding: 0021190
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 68DF979A5BD76E61C7B-803D

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 BD
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0808  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C71D1F-803F

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000005382893
   Coding: 008D0F210004100000120C000000000000097B075C
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B2D92855B9C7111F-807F

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW358  012  0401  
   Coding: 00063445
   Shop #: WSC 01324  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 C    HW: 1T0 909 605 C
   Component: 02 AIRBAG VW62 0506 1500  
   Revision: 09025000    Serial number: 0038BD0H4NRK  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 35610EEE5CE5C3898CD-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 034 0070  
   Coding: 0010042
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 76E3C9E201638891457-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 920 862 E
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 4312  
   Coding: 0003101
   Shop #: WSC 00010 824 70462
   VCID: 35610EEE5CE5C3898CD-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H10 0120  
   Revision:   H10       Serial number: 2800106127113D
   Coding: 3F3F0340078003
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B2D92855B9C7111F-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1T0 920 862 E
   Component: IMMO            VDD 4312  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 35610EEE5CE5C3898CD-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 366309E241E3C891857-8063

1 Fault Found:
00096 - Drivers Door Central Locking (Safe) Motor (V161) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D06 1701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346733EA579FDA81BB3-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 00C802087F2D8405485FC61010CC
   Shop #: WSC 00010 824 05318
   VCID: 79F9C2DE307DE7E9285-802C

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 947 291 F
   Component: Innenraumueberw.009 4809  
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 7 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

1 Fault Found:
00955 - Key 1 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 702 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 377D04E646E931999E1-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 186 P
   Component: Radio GR0       015 0019  
   Revision: 0001503S    Serial number: VWZ2Z2F3751220
   Coding: 0040400
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 336530F65291DDB9A29-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 326B35F2AD8BD4B1A9F-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 336530F65291DDB9A29-8066

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:45)--------------------------
Monday,17,November,2014,19:04:46:42165
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20141022


VIN: WVGZZZ1TZ6W129773   License Plate: DMS886
Mileage: 120070km-74608mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 1T (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVGZZZ1TZ6W129773   Mileage: 120070km-74608miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 06F 906 056 EM    HW: Hardware No 
   Component: MED9.5.10       G00 8229  
   Revision: --H03---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F3307625
   Coding: 0000075
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 78FFC7DA0B77FEE157B-802D

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No: 09G 927 750 CS
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0847  
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 0407A32A47BFAA014B3-8051

1 Fault Found:
01045 - Tiptronic Switch (F189) 
            008 - Implausible Signal

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-614-517-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 614 517 AC    HW: 1K0 614 517 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60-AT   0102  
   Revision: 00H13001    
   Coding: 0021190
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 68DF979A5BD76E61C7B-803D

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 BD
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0808  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C71D1F-803F

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000005382893
   Coding: 008D0F210004100000120C000000000000097B075C
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B2D92855B9C7111F-807F

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW358  012  0401  
   Coding: 00063445
   Shop #: WSC 01324  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 C    HW: 1T0 909 605 C
   Component: 02 AIRBAG VW62 0506 1500  
   Revision: 09025000    Serial number: 0038BD0H4NRK  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 35610EEE5CE5C3898CD-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 034 0070  
   Coding: 0010042
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 76E3C9E201638891457-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 920 862 E
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 4312  
   Coding: 0003101
   Shop #: WSC 00010 824 70462
   VCID: 35610EEE5CE5C3898CD-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H10 0120  
   Revision:   H10       Serial number: 2800106127113D
   Coding: 3F3F0340078003
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B2D92855B9C7111F-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1T0 920 862 E
   Component: IMMO            VDD 4312  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 35610EEE5CE5C3898CD-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 366309E241E3C891857-8063

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D06 1701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346733EA579FDA81BB3-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 00C802087F2D8405485FC61010CC
   Shop #: WSC 00010 824 05318
   VCID: 79F9C2DE307DE7E9285-802C

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 947 291 F
   Component: Innenraumueberw.009 4809  
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 7 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 702 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 377D04E646E931999E1-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 186 P
   Component: Radio GR0       015 0019  
   Revision: 0001503S    Serial number: VWZ2Z2F3751220
   Coding: 0040400
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 336530F65291DDB9A29-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 326B35F2AD8BD4B1A9F-8067

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 336530F65291DDB9A29-8066

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:43)--------------------------
A3:
Code:
Tuesday,18,November,2014,12:09:12:42165
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20141022


VIN: WAUZZZ8P94A155758   License Plate: AUDIA33.2
Mileage: 150140km-93292mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 47 52 55 56

VIN: WAUZZZ8P94A155758   Mileage: 150140km-93292miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
   Part No SW: 022 906 032 CB    HW: Bas isX 3
   Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1    8088  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUX7Z0D2FNJ0DI
   Coding: 0000178
   Shop #: WSC 12345 210 01865
   VCID: 4D91460ED475AB49D4D-8018

3 Faults Found:
28827 - No Communication with Instrument Cluster 
            U0155 - 008 -  - Intermittent
18058 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1650 - 008 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
18570 - Accelerator Position Sensors (G79) / (G185) 
            P2138 - 008 - Implausible Correlation - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
   Part No SW: 02E 300 046 D    HW: 02E 927 770 AD
   Component: GSG DSG             0632  
   Revision: 04202624    Serial number: 00000912010414
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 04940 001 00001
   VCID: 183FE75A2B371EE1B7B-804D

1 Fault Found:
18270 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1862 - 000 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 E
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK60     0103  
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 346733EA579FDA81BB3-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 D    HW: 8P0 820 043 D
   Component: KlimavollautomatH12 0150  
   Revision: 037768      Serial number: 8P0820043D    
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D51268EB4B58B49F4D-8078

3 Faults Found:
01810 - Actuating Motor for Temperature Flap; Right (V159) 
            003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 73
                    Reset counter: 120
                    Mileage: 137629 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.02.06
                    Time: 17:55:05

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 13.80 V
                    Temperature: 32.0°C
                    (no units): 26.0
                    (no units): 49.0
                    Temperature: 23.0°C

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 104
                    Mileage: 149087 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.08.29
                    Time: 13:29:25

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 8.20 V

01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 84
                    Mileage: 150146 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.09.10
                    Time: 00:00:21

             Freeze Frame:


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 D    HW: 8P0 907 279 D*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0701  
   Revision: 00030000    Serial number: 00000000661583
   Coding: A38E5F01A0141000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3E7311C269D300D15D7-806B

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 C  Labels: 1TX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer WWS Audi350 0180  
   Coding: 16711696
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

10 Faults Found:
00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00188 - Control Circuit 1; Relay for Supply Voltage Terminal 50 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
01496 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Left (L22) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01341 - Control Module in Instrument Panel On Comfort CAN (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
02104 - Light Detection Sensor (G399) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
01505 - Bulb for Blinkers; Rear Right (M8) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8P0-959-655-84.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 D    HW: 8P0 959 655 D
   Component: Airbag 8.4ED    H00 0140  
   Coding: 0410603
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 4385603602316D39329-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 953 549     HW: 8P0 953 549 
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul H11 0020  
   Coding: 0011112
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 7BF5D8D63A41D5F93A9-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: Lenkradmodul    H03 0040

1 Fault Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 G    HW: 8P0 920 930 G
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0140  
   Revision: D09         Serial number: 2242DD09024698
   Coding: 0001923
   Shop #: WSC 12345 012 00123
   VCID: 366309E241E3C891857-8063

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 D    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H08 0100  
   Revision: 08          Serial number: 25001042210752
   Coding: FF0F0342070101
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 285FD79A9B57AE6107B-807D

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 554 
   Component: HALDEX 4Motion      0101  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C71D1F-803F

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 G    HW: 8P0 920 930 G
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0140  
   Revision: D09         Serial number: AUX7Z0D2FNJ0DI
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 366309E241E3C891857-8063

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MAX1.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 801 
   Component: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0010  
   Coding: 0000048
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 78FFC7DA0B77FEE157B-802D

1 Fault Found:
00943 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Driver Side (Z4) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 F
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.10      1301  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2F6D3C86BEB9F959C61-807A

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 -  - 

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 433 A
   Component:    KSG          H02 0040  
   Coding: 008800186D288505485A016000
   Shop #: WSC 07130 981 60707
   VCID: 3A7B1DD275FB2CF161F-806F

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
01565 - Luggage Compartment Light (W3) 
            007 - Short to Ground

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P3 035 382     HW: 8P3 035 382 
   Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH25 0160  
   Revision: 00003       Serial number: 10000001108483
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 70EFFFFA6307A6A19FB-8025

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 8P0-959-802-MAX1.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 802 
   Component: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0010  
   Coding: 0000048
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 79F9C2DE307DE7E9285-802C

2 Faults Found:
00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00106 - Signal Central Locking SAVE/LOCK Passenger Side 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 907 357 A
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 387F07DA4BF73EE197B-806D

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 117
                    Mileage: 1048568 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8P0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 B    HW: 8P0 035 186 B
   Component: concert II JP   H53 0060  
   Revision:      07S    Serial number: AUZ2Z3C1008064
   Coding: 0001001
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 31693AFEA88DEFA9D05-8064

2 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 105
                    Time Indication: 15

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:       10

01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 105
                    Time Indication: 15


End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:51)--------------------------
I've just been asking Uncle Google, but I'm still confused. So if it's the easy immo4, I just need the SKC ac can "sync" the immo and ecu for it to start.

If it's the complicated version you mention, then I have to find some fancy software to sort it out... or have the immo defeated? This is the part of the whole swap I understand the least!
 
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Also afaik the immo 4a or 4c is in cluster. ECU is always 4a. Thatswhy its also easier to pull SKC from ecu.
 
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Look at Immo IDs in MVB 081. 3rd character is what's interesting. 'Z' should be 4A. 'X' should be 4C.

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862 SHOULD be immo4a.

Have you read this?, http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer#Immobilizer_Generation_4

Why notbfull autoscan?
Changed to full auto scans ;)

I have read the immobiliser link - I guess it's the whole system of it that I don't understand yet. My basic understanding is the code in the key has to match the code in the immo and the code in the ECU. If I can get the SKC for the ECU, then I can change the ECU to match the immo and key in the touran??? Assuming the two are compatible types. The "immo ID" is the code it checks matches.

Look at Immo IDs in MVB 081. 3rd character is what's interesting. 'Z' should be 4A. 'X' should be 4C.

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I'll do that today (I hope). I'm off to work today (might even take the Touran!) so won't have much time, but may do it in the carpark :cool: So I just have to select the module, choose measuring blocks and go to 081 in the "group" on the side, correct??? Sounds easy (I wonder if I can get it wrong :p)


I'd like to keep the immobiliser if I can, but having it removed seems easy enough. I guess my insurance company would be happier if it was still there though!

Thank you guys so much for your help! I really appreciate it - very glad I brought the full version of the cable, instead of cheaping out on the cheap cable and VCDS lite too.

Thanks,

Allan.
 
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So I just have to select the module, choose measuring blocks and go to 081 in the "group" on the side, correct??? Sounds easy.
Yep. It is easy. And for your convenience, use the [Add to Log] button when the data you want is shown, this keeps you from having to write down data or making screen-shots.

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Yep. It is easy. And for your convenience, use the [Add to Log] button when the data you want is shown, this keeps you from having to write down data or making screen-shots.

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Haha... I just made screen shots :rolleyes: I was in a hurry anyway - did the Audi on the way out the drive, and the Touran in the work carpark,

Touran is "Z", so 4A

A3 is "X", so 4C

Please tell me this isn't a bad thing!

I've looked at ways to pull the SKC from the ECU, and think I know how to do it - I won't go into that here, as It's not a VCDS function.

I hope I don't sound TOOOO dim here, but:

So even with the 2 systems, does this still mean I can use the SKC to access the Audi ECU Immo data via VCDS, change the VIN and IMMO ID to the Touran ones, and that's my immobiliser sorted, in the same way as if I was just fitting a replacement ECU???

I'm thinking if I at least make sure I get the correct SKC by trying it in the Audi while intact? Knowing I then can't start the audi until the engine is in the Touran. Correct?

Because the two cars both show an IMMO ID number, I have a compatible system, and this should be easy, Correct? (rather than one being a "challenge" IMMO)

I hope I'm not annoying everyone here - I really like to work these things out, rather than having someone do stuff for me (even though you guys are telling me how to do it ;)) I'll have to post out some chocolate fish later , I think!

I'd like to be able to help others more, but I'm I'm still dabbling in the shallows here! You guys are experienced deep divers! :cool:
 
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I'll try to write about immobiliser what i understand, i may be wrong. :)

ECU
ECU on immo4 system is always immo4a, aka adaption. Knowing the current SKC of the ecu and cluster, ECU is able to "download" via channel50 adaption the info from cluster. This includes immo-id, vin, component security and so on and on.

Cluster.
It's either immo 4a or 4c.
immo4a - its also possible to "download" of immo data from ECU, same stuff vin, immo-id, component security.
immo4c - the channel50 adaption is not available anymore, data inside cluster is not meant for altering unless with a special tool(aftermarket).

Keys
Before a new key can be matched, a component security code(7byte hex string) is needed to be written on the chip using immobiliser machines. After that key can be added using SKC for login and using adaption channel. Chip in this case is ID48 CAN(vw,audi,seat,skoda all have diffrent chips). the CAN chip is used in MKV cars, golf6 for example uses the ID48(not CAN)

SKC
As you may have learned, this is pin code of the immo system. When ECU and cluster are matched this matches in ecu and cluster.

In your case, I'm still convinced that you have immo4a cluster, but thats not important, because when you swap your engine and ecu over, you use your R32 ecu adaption channel and pull info from cluster, so now it has your vin and stuff.

But i may be wrong, i may be soooo wrong :D , but thats what i have learned so far.
 
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I think in principle, golfi is correct. Now whether it works in practice, well, that's another matter.

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I'll try to write about immobiliser what i understand, i may be wrong. :)

...because when you swap your engine and ecu over, you use your R32 ecu adaption channel and pull info from cluster, so now it has your vin and stuff.

But i may be wrong, i may be soooo wrong :D , but thats what i have learned so far.

Thanks VERY much - I really hope you're right :-) that sounds easy enough.

So once the R32 ECU is in the Touran (and I have the SKCs), I can then "update" the R32 ECU from the cluster in the car vis VCDS - I don't enter it manually, the program :

That's the part where I go to"engine" then "security access" in VCDS, enter the A3 PIN etc, then after "Immobiliser active" comes up, I enter "adaptation" "channel 50", using the Touran SKC, to pull the info from the touran cluster? And it hopefully works??? ;)





I think in principle, golfi is correct. Now whether it works in practice, well, that's another matter.

-Uwe-
That's not reassuring :( I guess the fallback is still immo delete, which I may be able to do or send the ECU to have done. I just want to have a bit of a plan if things aren't easy - I've got $10K in this so far :rolleyes:

Is it safe to say that I will be able to get this running one of these ways?
 
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Yes, it should be possible to match an Immo 4a ECU to and Immo 4a cluster if you have security (PIN) codes for both. However... There's the question whether an Audi ECU wants to marry a VW cluster, and possibly this thing known as power class, so I don't know for sure whether VCDS and correct PIN codes are enough by themselves. But I'm reasonably confident it can be done if the ECU and cluster are sent out, maybe put a VW Mk.5 R32 program in the ECU, and some matching code in the cluster?

I wonder if Jack has any ideas?

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Jack? May be my lifeline :)

I guess the ECU coding and Immo will be able to be sorted one way or another. I want to try to pull my SKC, before I disassemble the A3 any further. Just using the SKC to log into the immo part of VCDS should be enough to confirm it is the correct SKC, right? I'd like to get it while it's all wired into the car, rather than make a bench jig to power the ECU up (and do it wrong, or have an "incident" :rolleyes:).

If anyone has any more ideas, please feel free to post, but otherwise I'll wait until I've passed the next step, of at least getting the SKCs - once that's sorted, is really the only time I can move to the next step.

Cheers guys :cool:

I'll be back...
 
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If the A3 has an Immo 4c cluster, you may not be able to "login" (using Security Access) to the immo using a PIN code that's perfectly valid for that car. However, if the ECU is Immo 4a, it should accept a valid PIN.

BTW, I would keep the A3's cluster, keys, and transponder pickup coil for trouble shooting purposes down the road, 'cause you know all that stuff is matched together..

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In my current immo4c cluster I'm able to security access my immobiliser with valid login. Valid login is also needed for key matching, even in 4c.

In audi/vw parts matching, my friend installed audi 2.7BiTurbo in his 1999 Passat b5. He already has put b5.5 cluster that is immo3. You can have immo3 cluster and immo2 ECU.
Now he has AUDI immo3 ECU and B5.5 cluster. Immo is matched and car is running vruuuuuummmmm..... :)
 
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In my current immo4c cluster I'm able to security access my immobiliser with valid login.
Good to know this method can still be used a a test.

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Thanks guys - I'll DEFFO be keeping the spare Audi bits around - If my wifes asked why I haven't sold all the leftovers, I'll blame you guys ;)

I'll report back what I find, when I've done it (it could be weeks though!!).

Good to hear that sometimes the VW/Audi modules can integrate. I know the wiring task is quite daunting, then to have electronic issues makes it harder - especially when you may have wiring AND electonic issues :( And I haven't even started down the ABS/Stability road yet!

Thanks guys!
 
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Some success...

Immo login on the Touran successful...



Shame the A3 isn't as easy - may have to boot the ME7.1.1 in bootmode and read the immo pin out manually :eek:
 
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