2016 Passat NMS having issues with ACC retrofit.

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Hi!
I retrofitted the 7N0 ACC radar into my Passat NMS a few days ago and I coded it, as you can see in the attached full auto-scan. The instrument cluster display shows ACC and Front Assist, but when I try to engage ACC above 20MPH the car engages, and then disengages ACC and gives the message on the display "Error: ACC." Then the car gives the Error: ACC message until you remove the grille, remove the radar, unplug it, replug it, and finally key cycle the car. When you can scan the car with VCDS and go into address 13, it shows the errors attatched in the auto-scan, clearing thesew faults works, but they return after a key-cycle. When reversing out of my driveway I can see the display show a "golf" in-front of me with increasing distance as I move further away from the Atlas parked in my driveway, and ACC is in "standby" but when you try to engage ACC over 20MPH it does the same thing. I'm about to replace the J533 extension & radar harness and thought I'd post here to see if anyone had any insight.
Thank you!!!!

Code:
Wednesday,03,April,2024,15:07:55:28260
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 24.2.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240306 DS355.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 1VWAS7A30GC015233   License Plate:


Chassis Type: A3-VW41 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 13 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 4F 52 5F 61 62 72
        

VIN: 1VWAS7A30GC015233   Mileage: 229990km-142909miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CPKA)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 06K 906 071 AF    HW: 06K 907 425 C
   Component: R4 1.8l TFS   H13 4869 
   Revision: --H13---    CVN: 6CBF5F95
   Coding: 001A0092246400160000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906071AF 001008
   ROD: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906071AF.rod
   VCID: 6FBBC437971BEA32A29-803A
   VINID: 0669D18C74430174C00450830CF43A7382

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:* 09G-927-749-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 749 AN    HW: 09G 927 749 AN
   Component: AISIN AG6 G3  129 2941 
   CVN: CA96F2E3
   Coding: 000348
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAQ250031 002009
   ROD: EV_TCMAQ250031_002_VW23.rod
   VCID: 0557869FA5A7C062785-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CC    HW: 1K0 907 379 CC
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0175 
   Revision: 00H46001   
   Coding: C54BC0F5492300FFA30D03E7921C004120F00012
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 75B7F65FF5C7D0E2685-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 561 907 044 AN    HW: 561 907 044 AN
   Component: Climatronic   H07 0910 
   Revision: 00001K04   
   Coding: 0070019002
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411 A01001
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411_VW41.rod
   VCID: 6393B8074BD35E52361-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 085 AE    HW: 5K0 937 085 AE
   Component: BCM PQ35 B+   122 0183 
   Revision: BH122001   
   Coding: EF200E38982B08D4088800010400044800F1000640801920E48062000C70
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 76B5F153E8C1DBFA61F-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 7N0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 572 C    HW: 7E0 907 572
   Component: ACC Bosch PQx H03 0211 
   Serial number: 01121577090711 Dataset Number: V03935274UE 0001
   Coding: 01001002FE0739
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBEGVW361 001006
   ROD: EV_ACCBEGVW361.rod
   VCID: 36353153A8C19BFAA1F-8062

10 Faults Found:
0268 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [FAULT_TIMEOUT_mBremse_2]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:18

                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.3 V
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 m/s
                    Acceleration: 0.00 m/s²

0269 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [FAULT_TIMEOUT_mBremse_3]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:18

                    Control Module temperature: 46 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.3 V
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 m/s
                    Acceleration: 0.00 m/s²

0273 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [FAULT_TIMEOUT_mGRA_Neu]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:18

                    Control Module temperature: 46 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.3 V
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 m/s
                    Acceleration: 0.00 m/s²

0279 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [FAULT_TIMEOUT_mGate_Komf_1]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:18

                    Control Module temperature: 46 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.3 V
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 m/s
                    Acceleration: 0.00 m/s²

0276 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [FAULT_TIMEOUT_mKombi_1]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:18

                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.3 V
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 m/s
                    Acceleration: 0.00 m/s²

0281 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [FAULT_TIMEOUT_mMotor_10]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:18

                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.3 V
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 m/s
                    Acceleration: 0.00 m/s²

0262 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [FAULT_TIMEOUT_mMotor_3]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:18

                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.3 V
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 m/s
                    Acceleration: 0.00 m/s²

1794 - Internal Fault
          B200F F0 [00001000] - Unknown Error Elaboration
          [FAULT_TX_TIMEOUT_mACC_GRA_Anzeige]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:18

                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.3 V
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 m/s
                    Acceleration: 0.00 m/s²

1795 - Internal Fault
          B200F F0 [00001000] - Unknown Error Elaboration
          [FAULT_TX_TIMEOUT_mACC_System]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:18

                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.3 V
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 m/s
                    Acceleration: 0.00 m/s²

1796 - Internal Fault
          B200F F0 [00001000] - Unknown Error Elaboration
          [FAULT_TX_TIMEOUT_mAWV]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:18

                    Control Module temperature: 46 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.3 V
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 m/s
                    Acceleration: 0.00 m/s²


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 561-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 655     HW: 561 959 655
   Component: AirbagVW11    001 0207 
   Serial number: 003RXM01TH9C Dataset Number: 561003V____ 0012
   Coding: 8CCCCC00000000005000001A020800000065
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411 001002
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411.rod
   VCID: 6393B8074BD35E52361-8036

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H11 0021
   Serial number: IBH000000000003J4LHO
   Coding: 303245

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 709 15
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
   Serial number: 35700000000B0744F61K

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 602 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
   Serial number: 35800000000BB0FC691

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 022 209 15
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 0148
   Serial number: 3510001BF1C1FED3C80T

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 022 209 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 0148
   Serial number: 3520001BF1C1FED3F83-

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 009 15
   Component: FrontSensor_D  000 0189
   Serial number: 3550001A71BE606305F6

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 009 15
   Component: FrontSensor_P  000 0189
   Serial number: 3560001A71BE6065F4FN

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 CM    HW: 5K0 953 569 BC
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   018 0230 
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20150921200914
   Coding: 0882C40008
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod
   VCID: 7AADE563DC59BF9A057-802E

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 B    HW: 6C0 959 442 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023
   Serial number: 3021510442000861AF1B
   Coding: 2C0000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 561 920 971     HW: 561 920 971
   Component: KOMBI         H04 1008 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 231E010000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05730
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 58E99FEB02958D8A533-800C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BL    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1682 
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 28012400F10064
   Coding: 350000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 7BA3E067D3E386921E1-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H04 1008 
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW25.rod
   VCID: 6A8DD523ACF90F1AF57-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 701 B    HW: 3C0 959 793 H
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0637 
   Revision: 13100010    Serial number: 0010023460
   Coding: 040495
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X A04004
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 1D67CEFF2D3728A2405-8048

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 811 B    HW: 561 959 811 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5470
   Serial number: 14102630151029191753
   Coding: 800000

2 Faults Found:
66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator
          B11EC 54 [00001001] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 9
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:06

131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator
          B11EE 54 [00001001] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 9
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:06


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 311    3501 
   Revision: 00H22000   
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 392F3A6F955F74824CD-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: EZE_2         H56 1682 
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 28012400F10064
   Coding: 00000008
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 6FBBC437979BEA32A29-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 919 204 C    HW: 561 919 204 C
   Component: Analoguhr  001 0002

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 702 B    HW: 3C0 959 792 H
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0637 
   Revision: 15100010    Serial number: 0010019041
   Coding: 040494
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X A04004
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 1E65C9F3203133BA59F-804A

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 812 B    HW: 561 959 812 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5470
   Serial number: 14102631151028194551
   Coding: 800000

1 Fault Found:
131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator
          B11EE 54 [00001001] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 9
                    Mileage: 229997 km
                    Date: 2024.04.03
                    Time: 15:06:06


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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
   Part No SW: 561 035 150     HW: 561 035 150
   Component: MU-E--US      857 6495 
   Serial number: 18091500012034 Dataset Number: 5K7CV1v__A_ 0001
   Coding: 02140100BE00000041220001001000001F0000D40000010000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001025
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW27.rod
   VCID: 4ACD75A3CC39EF1AD57-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: Batt.regelung H56 1682 
   Serial number: 28012400F10064
   Coding: E1200859
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 71BFC24F81AFFCC2B4D-8024

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:00, VBatt start/end: 14.8V/14.8V)-----------
 
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Abs sensors on rear wheels? Sounds like you have incorrect sensors and it bugs out because of those.
 
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what FEC code you enable in radar ?
 
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Abs sensors on rear wheels? Sounds like you have incorrect sensors and it bugs out because of those.
I don't think it would be ABS sensors because other NMS Passat's have had this exact same retrofit without these issues.
 
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All the Faults the ACC is showing are Timeout Faults in CAN Communication.
So you have either
- Cabling issue in CAN Cables to Radar
- HW Issues with your Gateway
 
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All the Fauls the ACC is showing are Timeout Fauls in CAN Communication.
So you have either
- Cabling issue in CAN Cables to Radar
- HW Issues with your Gateway
Agreed. Strange that the overview of modules shows ACC as Status : OK but when you scroll down to module itself, there are DTCs recorded :)

Could be faulty radar as well as the errors are marked as internal fault
 
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Agreed. Strange that the overview of modules shows ACC as Status : OK but when you scroll down to module itself, there are DTCs recorded :)

Could be faulty radar as well as the errors are marked as internal fault
Radar has been tested on another Passat, I’m also thinking harness issues as if I unplug and replug the radar it allows me to put ACC in standby mode in park.
 
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All the Faults the ACC is showing are Timeout Faults in CAN Communication.
So you have either
- Cabling issue in CAN Cables to Radar
- HW Issues with your Gateway
New J533 Gateway because the original one didn’t have extended CAN. Probably cables to radar, might test today or tomorrow or just order a new harness straight up.
 
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Could be faulty radar as well as the errors are marked as internal fault
i can confirm 100% it is not the radar faulting internally. it must be wiring, or gateway hardware issue
 
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Oki, I have the radar Tx & Rx issue fixed, it has to be wired in to your factory ACC fuse, so fuse 13, under the dash in the NMS Passat.
 
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I have a new issue now, ACC trys to engage but faults out on the error below, and it resets on key cyle.
the first time i tested it acc engaged for a solid 3 seconds (cruise light turned on) and then errored out, and now it trys to engage but fails and errors out (cruise light doesnt turn on)
Code:
Thursday,04,April,2024,12:44:45:28260
VCDS Version: Release 23.11.0 (x64) Running on Windows 11 x64
www.Ross-Tech.com

                Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg       Labels: 7N0-907-572.clb
Control Module Part Number: 7N0 907 572 C    HW: 7E0 907 572
  Component and/or Version: ACC Bosch PQx H03 0211
           Software Coding: 01001002FE0739
            Work Shop Code: WSC 01383 790 50316
              ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBEGVW361 001006 (VW41)
                       ROD: EV_ACCBEGVW361.rod
                      VCID: 36353153A8C19BFAC5F-8062
1 Fault Found:

1116 - Implausible Data Received from Engine Control Module
          U0401 00 [00001001] - -
          [FAULT_CIS_TSK_PASSIVE_PLAUS_FAIL]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 9
                    Mileage: 229999 km
                    Date: 2094.14.11
                    Time: 12:44:12

                    Control Module temperature: 35 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 14.5 V
                    Vehicle speed: 10.08 m/s
                    Acceleration: -0.05 m/s²
 
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Okay. I have narrowed the issue down to what I think is the only difference between my Passat, and one with factory ACC. This scan from address 16 is one from a SEL Passat with factory ACC, as you can see the hardware and software numbers HW & SW are the same: 5K0 953 569 BC. If you look at my Passat’s HW & SW numbers, the HW is the same, 5K0 953 569 BC, but the SW is different: 1K5 953 521 CM. This is the one thing different between my S Passat and a SEL Passat with factory ACC. Maybe somebody who sees this post might be able to help me code it so ACC works on it. Otherwise I have to either flash this SWCM with firmware from the SEL Passat below, or I have to gamble and replace this SWCM and hope that fixes it.
Code:
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 569 BC    HW: 5K0 953 569 BC
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   018 0230
   Revision: --X01---    Serial number: 20201117300220
   Coding: 0882C40008
   Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod
   VCID: 7AA6984B8C5D1ECB3D6-802E

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 B    HW: 6C0 959 442 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023
   Serial number: 3111513242100979AF1B
   Coding: 2C0000

No fault code found.
 
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After a good amount of troubleshooting, @FLcruising let me know that ross-tech's long coding in byte 5 in the ECM for the NMS Passat is incorrect, it shows 8T3/8T8 as ACC with Front Assist, this is incorrect, it should be ACC w/ fts or ACC w/o fts. After changing my coding in byte 5 from 64 to 44, the car now lets me engage adapative cruise control, but when I try increasing the speed at all, it errors out. Attached below is the error.
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Friday,05,April,2024,19:17:51:28260
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 24.2.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240306 DS355.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 1VWAS7A30GC015233   License Plate:


Chassis Type: A3-VW41 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 13 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 4F 52 5F 61 62 72
        

VIN: 1VWAS7A30GC015233   Mileage: 230040km-142940miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CPKA)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 06K 906 071 AF    HW: 06K 907 425 C
   Component: R4 1.8l TFS   H13 4869 
   Revision: --H13---    CVN: 6CBF5F95
   Coding: 001A0092244400160000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906071AF 001008
   ROD: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906071AF.rod
   VCID: 6FBBC437971BEA32A29-803A
   VINID: 0669D18C74430174C00450830CF43A7382

1 Fault Found:
17170 - Databus
          U1122 00 [00100111] - Implausible Message
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 230044 km
                    Date: 2024.04.05
                    Time: 19:16:04

                    Engine RPM: 1326.25 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 34 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 91 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 27 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.296 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite EPB deceleration: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although TSK passive: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off or stop request at stopping speed not set: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off and stop request sent simultaneously: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although limiter active: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC reactivates itself after locking: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC sends undefined signals: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active although main switch off: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite driver braking: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite ESP/ASR passive sampling: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor not available: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor malfunction: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system malfunction due to inaccurate engine torque: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP indicates TSK message consistency error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-TSK/ESP handshake error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP automatic engagement malfunction: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Brake light implausible: No

Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:* 09G-927-749-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 749 AN    HW: 09G 927 749 AN
   Component: AISIN AG6 G3  129 2941 
   CVN: CA96F2E3
   Coding: 000348
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAQ250031 002009
   ROD: EV_TCMAQ250031_002_VW23.rod
   VCID: 0557869FA5A7C062785-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CC    HW: 1K0 907 379 CC
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0175 
   Revision: 00H46001   
   Coding: C54BC0F5492300FFA30D03E7921C004120F00012
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 75B7F65FF5C7D0E2685-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 561 907 044 AN    HW: 561 907 044 AN
   Component: Climatronic   H07 0910 
   Revision: 00001K04   
   Coding: 0070019002
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411 A01001
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411_VW41.rod
   VCID: 6393B8074BD35E52361-8036

1 Fault Found:
9474417 - Motor for Front Air Distribution Flap
          B1091 71 [00001001] - Actuator Stuck
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 11
                    Mileage: 230044 km
                    Date: 2024.04.05
                    Time: 19:13:55


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 085 AE    HW: 5K0 937 085 AE
   Component: BCM PQ35 B+   122 0183 
   Revision: BH122001   
   Coding: EF200E38982B08D4088800010400044800F1000640801920E48062000C70
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 76B5F153E8C1DBFA61F-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 7N0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 572 C    HW: 7E0 907 572
   Component: ACC Bosch PQx H03 0211 
   Serial number: 01121577090711 Dataset Number: V03935274UE 0001
   Coding: 01001002FE0739
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBEGVW361 001006
   ROD: EV_ACCBEGVW361.rod
   VCID: 36353153A8C19BFAA1F-8062

1 Fault Found:
1043 - Automatic Distance Control
          B10E7 F0 [00001001] - Disconnected
          [FAULT_CIS_TSK_IRREV_FAIL]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 11
                    Mileage: 230044 km
                    Date: 2024.04.05
                    Time: 19:16:06

                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 14.3 V
                    Vehicle speed: 9.49 m/s
                    Acceleration: 0.13 m/s²


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 561-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 655     HW: 561 959 655
   Component: AirbagVW11    001 0207 
   Serial number: 003RXM01TH9C Dataset Number: 561003V____ 0012
   Coding: 8CCCCC00000000005000001A020800000065
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411 001002
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411.rod
   VCID: 6393B8074BD35E52361-8036

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H11 0021
   Serial number: IBH000000000003J4LHO
   Coding: 303245

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 709 15
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
   Serial number: 35700000000B0744F61K

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 602 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
   Serial number: 35800000000BB0FC691

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 022 209 15
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 0148
   Serial number: 3510001BF1C1FED3C80T

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 022 209 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 0148
   Serial number: 3520001BF1C1FED3F83-

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 009 15
   Component: FrontSensor_D  000 0189
   Serial number: 3550001A71BE606305F6

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 009 15
   Component: FrontSensor_P  000 0189
   Serial number: 3560001A71BE6065F4FN

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 CM    HW: 5K0 953 569 BC
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   018 0230 
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20150921200914
   Coding: 0802C40008
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod
   VCID: 7AADE563DC59BF9A057-802E

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 B    HW: 6C0 959 442 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023
   Serial number: 3021510442000861AF1B
   Coding: 2C0000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 561 920 971     HW: 561 920 971
   Component: KOMBI         H04 1008 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 231E010000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05730
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 58E99FEB02958D8A533-800C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BL    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1682 
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 28012400F10064
   Coding: 350000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 7BA3E067D3E386921E1-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H04 1008 
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW25.rod
   VCID: 6A8DD523ACF90F1AF57-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 701 B    HW: 3C0 959 793 H
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0637 
   Revision: 13100010    Serial number: 0010023460
   Coding: 040495
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X A04004
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 1D67CEFF2D3728A2405-8048

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 811 B    HW: 561 959 811 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5470
   Serial number: 14102630151029191753
   Coding: 800000

1 Fault Found:
131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator
          B11EE 54 [00001001] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 11
                    Mileage: 230044 km
                    Date: 2024.04.05
                    Time: 19:13:45


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 311    3501 
   Revision: 00H22000   
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 392F3A6F955F74824CD-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: EZE_2         H56 1682 
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 28012400F10064
   Coding: 00000008
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 6FBBC437979BEA32A29-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 919 204 C    HW: 561 919 204 C
   Component: Analoguhr  001 0002

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 702 B    HW: 3C0 959 792 H
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0637 
   Revision: 15100010    Serial number: 0010019041
   Coding: 040494
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X A04004
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 1E65C9F3203133BA59F-804A

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 812 B    HW: 561 959 812 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5470
   Serial number: 14102631151028194551
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
   Part No SW: 561 035 150     HW: 561 035 150
   Component: MU-E--US      857 6495 
   Serial number: 18091500012034 Dataset Number: 5K7CV1v__A_ 0001
   Coding: 02140100BE00000041220001001000001F0000D40000010000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001025
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW27.rod
   VCID: 4ACD75A3CC39EF1AD57-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: Batt.regelung H56 1682 
   Serial number: 28012400F10064
   Coding: E1200859
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 71BFC24F81AFFCC2B4D-8024

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:00, VBatt start/end: 14.5V/14.3V)-----------
 
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@FLcruising let me know that ross-tech's long coding in byte 5 in the ECM for the NMS Passat is incorrect, it shows 8T3/8T8
The above sentence is interesting... We need to adjust the logic of the thought a bit.

The diagnostic tool - as in any diagnostic tool capable - will show the present coding found in the control module. Whether that coding is correct or not has nothing to do with the tool that reads it. That you have need to change/correct the coding found in the module is something a quality diagnostic tool will permit.

Acceptance of a change in coding is something designed into the control module by the engineers who wrote the embedded software for the module. The diagnostic tool likely does not do much checking of the code you try to apply. VCDS specifically allows you to try a change.

As to the issue you are having, I am not in position to comment as I am limited in my knowledge of your vehicle. I'm sure others will be along to assist.
 
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The above sentence is interesting... We need to adjust the logic of the thought a bit.

The diagnostic tool - as in any diagnostic tool capable - will show the present coding found in the control module. Whether that coding is correct or not has nothing to do with the tool that reads it. That you have need to change/correct the coding found in the module is something a quality diagnostic tool will permit.

Acceptance of a change in coding is something designed into the control module by the engineers who wrote the embedded software for the module. The diagnostic tool likely does not do much checking of the code you try to apply. VCDS specifically allows you to try a change.

As to the issue you are having, I am not in position to comment as I am limited in my knowledge of your vehicle. I'm sure others will be along to assist.
Wouldn’t VCDS be supplying the definition of the bits in the byte, like in byte 5, would the car (ECM) be supplyingl the definition of the bit, or would it be in VCDS? If it is in VCDS then it is borderline incorrect. Byte 5 should 8T3/8T8 should be ACC w/o FtS, not ACC w/o Front Assist. Vice versa for 8T5.
 
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If it's UDS capable module, then the module contains the bit diagnostic IDs. If it's not, then it's defined by VCDS label files. Your car is so new so I would assume it's UDS module and it has the diagnostic IDs in the module itself.
 
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If it is in VCDS then it is borderline incorrect. Byte 5 should 8T3/8T8 should be ACC w/o FtS, not ACC w/o Front Assist. Vice versa for 8T5.
If it's UDS capable module, then the module contains the bit diagnostic IDs.
No, not the module. Coding info still comes from VCDS, either from the ASAM data supplied by VAG that VCDS has as .ROD files, or from Label files. For this ECU, there's no coding info in the ASAM data. So what the OP is seeing is definitely from the label file:

00,Cruise Control System (CCS - PR-8T0) NOT installed
20,Cruise Control System (CCS - PR-8T2/8T6) installed
40,Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC - PR-8T5) installed
60,Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) with Front Assist (PR-8T3/8T8) installed


@Dana or @Sebastian may want to have a look at this.

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No, not the module. Coding info still comes from VCDS, either from the ASAM data supplied by VAG that VCDS has as .ROD files, or from Label files. For this ECU, there's no coding info in the ASAM data. So what the OP is seeing is definitely from the label file:

00,Cruise Control System (CCS - PR-8T0) NOT installed
20,Cruise Control System (CCS - PR-8T2/8T6) installed
40,Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC - PR-8T5) installed
60,Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) with Front Assist (PR-8T3/8T8) installed


@Dana or @Sebastian may want to have a look at this.

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Yep, my 2016 has UDS. Those are the codings I see in byte 5.
 
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No, not the module. Coding info still comes from VCDS, either from the ASAM data supplied by VAG that VCDS has as .ROD files, or from Label files. For this ECU, there's no coding info in the ASAM data. So what the OP is seeing is definitely from the label file:

00,Cruise Control System (CCS - PR-8T0) NOT installed
20,Cruise Control System (CCS - PR-8T2/8T6) installed
40,Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC - PR-8T5) installed
60,Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) with Front Assist (PR-8T3/8T8) installed


@Dana or @Sebastian may want to have a look at this.

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Yap, i am very shure i reported this "Generic" Error years ago :)

For ECU´s which support the long Coding with that Byte 5 having 2 bit´s for CCS Coding there it is generic wrong in VCDS

00,Cruise Control System (CCS NOT installed)
20,Cruise Control System (CCS installed)
40,Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC - without FTS support installed)
60,Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC - with FTS support installed)

would be the right Label

To Quote the Bosch EDC Documentation regarding this Bit 6 and 7 (Starting counting with 1, so in Real World we talk about Bit 5/6)
00: GRA / ACC deaktiviert
01: GRA aktiv
10: ACC aktiv
11: ACC follow to stop aktiv
 
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