VW Golf 7 Instrument cluster retrofit to Premium 1 fault

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Hello All,

I still waiting for a solution!

So its verry strange when i recode the FEUL Tank ore the TIRE CIRCUMFERENCE ore ABS byte 27 the fehler comes after 4 days WHY 4 DAYS!
But when i clear the fehler the fehler comes back after 15 hours.

Is ther no way you can do a basic settings Instrument cluster ore ABS brakes???
If possible please suggestion how to do!!
 
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Happy New Year to All,

I have update of my problem.

When I activate by 10 bit 2 acceleration on the intrument cluster ore de-activate the acceleration works Always so even when i make it 7E ore 7A.

My old instrument cluster has Always acceleration on the instrument cluster.
So i think the settings are from the gateway branded.
 
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Hello All,

I would like to know why I can not change this setting with 17.1.2.

Illumination_algorithm-Pointer_illumination_algorithim > terminal_58xd_log_bus_parkinglight to Not present.

And the following tekst is after 15.7.4 disappeared.

Illumination_algorithm-Scale_switching_algorithm > parking_light.

I want to see if the error message has to do with this settings.




Barstanders:

You made the following observation in your post #4 that I found odd "When I erase the error it will come back after 15+ hours." (my bolding)

Anyhow, to test my hypothesis I created a compare spreadsheet using the admaps from the old/new clusters that you posted (see HERE). Whilst there are some minor differences in settings, the most obvious (IMO) is the addition of the 2 x adaptation channels in ID #190 & #191 in your new cluster (see below)

  • ID 190 (1)-Illumination_algorithm-Scale_switching_algorithm > parking_light
  • ID 191 (2)-Illumination_algorithm-Pointer_illumination_algorithim > terminal_58xd_log_bus_parkinglight

I have these two adaptation channels in my control module and (as the descriptor suggests), they are used to determine when/how the needle and clock dials illuminate

Given your "15+ hour" comment and the existence of these 2 x new adaptation channels, I'm wondering if the DTC appears when the parking lights switch-on? You might try clearing the DTC, then turning-on the parkers to see if the error message is related to this activity. Or you could try clearing the DTC and setting these adaptation channels to not active, or lds.

As there are no physical wires that connect to the instrument cluster for the Parker/Terminal 58d function, I assume that these signals are transmitted via the convenience CAN bus. If so, then it's entirely likely that the Parker-on signal is created initially by the BCM (Hex09) as this is where the rotary light switch is terminated and because the BCM is also involved in the convenience CAN bus. I'm not sure if there is a code Byte/Bit, or adaptation channel setting in the BCM that enables this message - perhaps someone else here can provide further comment. I'm also not sure how the old cluster managed this function since these two channels were missing (perhaps these activities were entirely dependent on the phototransistor in the old instrument cluster)

Don

PS: Other than the error message in the auto-scan, what actual problem is evident with the new cluster?
 
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Key Warning olso works on my instrument cluster i have programm it today.
Byte 1 bit 4.
 
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Hello Again,

I have read on the MQB coding site Germany that the build a Virtual cockpit in a Audi A3 2015!

A tekst of this site.

Grobe "Anleitung":
1. Armaturenbrett vom A3 Facelift eingebaut
2. Auf MIB2 (MMI+) umgebaut und spezielle Freischaltungen der SWaP.
3. MOST-Bus Bifurkation gebaut und MOST Lichtwellenleiter nebst HSD-Leitung vom MIB zum neuen VC verlegt.
4. ALLE STG wie Gateway und co auf den neusten Stand gebracht .
5. Online/GeKo den neuen Schalttafeleinsatz anlernen, Immo, Kessy....
5.2. ABS komplett neu codieren und sämtliche Grundeinstellungen durchführen.
6. ne Menge Proficodierarbeit - nicht mal eben Stemei-Klick Klick. Kennlinien usw.
7. Passende Verbindung #5F <> VC #17 herstellen, da nicht dokumentiert muss ua direkt auf die UDS# geschrieben werden - mit VCDS _nicht_! möglich.
8. viele Kleinigkeiten bzgl Variantenkonflikte überprüfen - nun läuft alles! fehlerfrei! (Y)

So i see on point 5 that the ABS will recode and ther have done basic settings.

Do i need to do this olso after retrofitting instrument cluster.
 
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Hello All,

I long time I have a isseu with my instrument cluster on my Golf 7.

Today i have test that when my car lights switch is OFF, the instrument cluster will not ligt on. only the needle.

When i switch to AUTO or light position the instrument cluster lights.

I test it with my friends car olso Golf 7, the instrument cluster of his car lights Always even with OFF position.
 
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Hello All,

I long time I have a isseu with my instrument cluster on my Golf 7.

Today i have test that when my car lights switch is OFF, the instrument cluster will not ligt on. only the needle.

When i switch to AUTO or light position the instrument cluster lights.

I test it with my friends car olso Golf 7, the instrument cluster of his car lights Always even with OFF position.
barstanders: hello again - your retrofitted instrument cluster certainly has been a problematic little beastie - as is evidence by this fulsome thread!!

Not sure if you are aware (my apology if you are), but the illumination for the two clocks on the instrument cluster on a mk7 are never really "off" with a Terminal 15 voltage. They are always switched-on, but controlled by a photo-transistor (and an associated electronic circuit) that lives in the tacho dial between the 7 and 8 numerals - see below:



That's the hardware part - the software part lives (not surprisingly) in the module @ address hex17 and it takes the form of a set of adaptation channels with the term "dimming_characteristic_curve_adjustment" in their title. There is a bunch of these channels for each aspect of the instrument cluster's illumination (including the two clocks). These adaptation channel settings can be tweaked to produce all sorts of lighting effects (both good and bad!).


So in brief, the role of the photo-transistor is to modulate the cluster illumination in concert with the prevailing light levels in the cabin (the transistor "gain" changes with the quantity of light that falls onto the transparent body of the photo-transistor). In bright daylight conditions, the lighting levels are increased and in cloudy, low ambient light instances, the illumination is scaled-back. Grab a torch and shine the light into this spot to see the effect. An entirely different lighting curve comes into play for night time conditions.

Anyway, if you want to try "customizing" the clock lighting, then you might be interested in the specific tweak HERE and there is another (more general) tweak HERE that has a further explanation (more of a hypothesis, really) about how the cluster illumination might work on a mk7.
Don
 
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Hello DV52,

I have read your post before.
But when i see the car of my friend and the lights Always on i think maybe this will be the iseu. ( fehler )

Grab a torch and shine the light into this spot to see the effect. An entirely different lighting curve comes into play for night time conditions.

When i do this light comes into verry bright night conditions.

I now for sure the fehler have to do with ABS brakes.
This is what the vw garage olso say when i drive a couple months ago.

I have olso read somewhere on MQB coding.de the retrofit olso a instrument cluster and after the the recode the abs again.

But the problem with vcds is you can not do much on the ABS, recalibrate basic setting the possibletiy that you damage the abs is strong.
Even after 4 years Ross Tech cant make label files for the ABS.

But when i read Xagico pdf files he nows more then Ross tech about bit and byts..

Ross Tech 2017 must be the year you complies this hopefully.
 
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Hello All,

After months i have resolve the fehler!

I have change the instrument cluster with one which will fit to my car ( this was the first msitake )
The instrument cluster had 44 km so the orginal km have been put to the cluster.

Thanks to Happay parts in Germany.

Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
Part No SW: 5G0 920 870 HW: 5G0 920 870
Component: KOMBI 335 0555

I have olso put i other gateway wich was olso possible to my car, the other gateway AC version was not compitible with my car.

Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 M HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
Component: GW MQB High 122 1143

Thanks to Labo carparts Germany.

And ofcourse everthing has been build en program in the Netherlands by BM Onderdelen, olso thanks to them i have now 2 weeks without one fehler.

Ross tech moderator you can close this thread!!!

Everyone who have put any sugestion THANKS.

Code:
Tuesday,27,June,2017,17:35:26:42750
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]


VIN: WVWZZZAUZDP010048   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: AU (5Q0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F

VIN: WVWZZZAUZDP010048   Mileage: 54941km-34138miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZB)       Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04E 906 016 E    HW: 04E 907 309 A
   Component: 1.2l R4 TSI   H08 7695  
   Revision: WAH08---    
   Coding: 01110032232415082000
   Shop #: WSC 51969 000 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016E 001011
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016.rod
   VCID: 2468B6F82F7D0161AD-8070

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AC    HW: 5Q0 907 379 D
   Component: ESC           H75 0437  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 01FA6AA120212A6C0377060401CB2580560454C06080A4F30028F02AC0
   Shop #: WSC 56452 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 008020
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_008.rod
   VCID: 7DDEA39CEC5790A982-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 R    HW: 5G0 907 044 R
   Component: Climatronic   H02 0503  
   Revision: 00001K06    
   Coding: 00020004200100011005000000101000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 123465
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 002017
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_002.rod
   VCID: 364C7CB089E183F103-8062

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 

   Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 

   Air quality sensor: 

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AA    HW: 5Q0 937 084 L
   Component: BCM MQBAB H   H14 0112  
   Serial number: 00011227800350
   Coding: 00040846C2C102FB0BA44080B11C0708100A000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 123465
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 011001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_011.rod
   VCID: 77D2B1B4CE6BBAF9D8-8022

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A    HW: 5G1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS    120910  042 0551 
   Serial number:         120924160900
   Coding: 0E4DD5

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547     HW: 5Q0 955 547   Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLFS  024 0042 
   Serial number: Y12M09D26H11M47S40S4
   Coding: 06A8DD

   Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
   Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0313 
   Serial number: 000000000ZY1306406H5

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
   Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
   Serial number: 00000000000056969920

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 5Q0-919-298.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 919 298 A    HW: 5Q0 919 298 
   Component: PARKHILFE PLA 011 0029  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 61131226402555
   Coding: 0031161041
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000 003014
   ROD: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000_003_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3D5E639CACD750A9C2-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 C    HW: 5Q0 959 655 C
   Component: AirbagVW20    011 0361  
   Serial number: 003F5R00E6ZJ
   Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF004800000065
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00057
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002126
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 40A01A68DB253D41A9-8014

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 310 12
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35767000000E2845EB00
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 708 13
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35867000000ED2CC6D0F
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 910 12
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3516502A90D19C31C0EK
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 910 12
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3526502AD0CD5EB313CY
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 210 12
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3556502B30CD5EB4531M
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AA    HW: 5Q0 953 549 
   Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 1510120003004H
   Coding: 8400
   Shop #: WSC 51454 001 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_VW37.rod
   VCID: 75CEBBBCD467C8E9CA-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 920 870     HW: 5G0 920 870 
   Component: KOMBI         335 0555  
   Coding: 07A502002390000800087A00040000
   Shop #: WSC 99179 211 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008026
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_008_VW37.rod
   VCID: 66ECECF099C1337173-8032

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 M    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
   Component: GW MQB High   122 1143  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000210963
   Coding: 030100042B086400EF000648080F00010001000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 009013
   ROD: EV_GatewLear_009.rod
   VCID: 3B5A6D84B2C35E99FC-806E

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 J    HW: 5G0 959 442 J  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
H14 0035 
   Serial number: 23130000529820100291
   Coding: 280000

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C    HW: 5Q0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8042 
   Serial number: 5430458201          

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 B    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0025  
   Serial number: 29051301100188
   Coding: 001F0220D000020000001000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 40A01A68DB253D41A9-8014

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 A    HW: 5Q4 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
   Serial number: 00000000000000243883
   Coding: 010000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 L    HW: 5Q0 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  119 1021  
   Coding: 03
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 123465
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_008.rod
   VCID: 3D5E639CACD750A9C2-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 B    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0023  
   Serial number: 06031302090088
   Coding: 001F0020DE00020000801000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 3FA21994A6DB42B9D0-806A

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 A    HW: 5Q4 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
   Serial number: 00000000000000247280
   Coding: 090000

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 035 846 A    HW: 5G0 035 846 
   Component: MU-S-N-ER     038 0486  
   Serial number: V1F01510120522
   Coding: 02730001FF00000011110001000800001F0103940100010045
   Shop #: WSC 12345 666 54321
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002039
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2772A1F45E4BEA7988-8072

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605 D    HW: 5G0 919 605 D
   Component: ABT_Std_Nav  H51 0022 
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9NJ902C5F      

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 866 AF    HW: -----------
   Component:  ECE 2017/18  --- 0067 
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.
 
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