Activating CCS on audi A6 4G

[Timonator]

Hi all,

I installed a cruise control and handles from an A7 4G in hopes to get CC to work. But when I try to activate it in the engine module I get the following error code:

Thursday,31,December,2015,10:26:23:64893
VCDS Version: Release 15.7.3 (x64) Running on Windows 7 x64
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                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 03L-906-018-CGL.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03L 906 018 GT    HW: 03L 906 018 JL
  Component and/or Version: R4 2,0L EDC   H23 0757
           Software Coding: 0A194012232401080000
            Work Shop Code: WSC 02311 785 00200
              ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018GT 003005 (AU57)
                       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018GT.rod
                      VCID: 020BEAE095F26C2E67-8056
1 Fault Found:

4332 - Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus 
          P1647 00 [167] - -
          MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 55444 km
                    Date: 2015.12.31
                    Time: 11:10:36


Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

This error seems to be messing with the start/stop system

Also in the instruments module I activated the Cruise Control Option installed

But I am not able to change the option in the steering wheel module
Byte02 bit 2-3. If I change this to CCS installed I get an error: Coding rejected, Error 31: Request out of range.

Here is a scan of my car before messing with the coding .

Thursday,31,December,2015,10:06:55:64893
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20151216
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VIN: WAUZZZ4G6BN028655   License Plate: 
Mileage: 55444km-34451mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 4G (4G0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 3B 42 44 46 52 53 5F 62 72

VIN: WAUZZZ4G6BN028655   Mileage: 55444km-34451miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
3B-Sensor Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CGLD)       Labels: 03L-906-018-CGL.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 GT    HW: 03L 906 018 JL
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H23 0757  
   Revision: 45H23---    
   Coding: 0A194012230401080000
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018GT 003005
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018GT.rod
   VCID: 020BEAE095F26C2E67-8056

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 4G0-907-379-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 379     HW: 4G0 907 379 
   Component: ESP PREMIUM   H08 0190  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 06A087006005E1008B00
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ESPPremiAU57X 003013
   ROD: EV_ESPPremiAU57X_AU57.rod
   VCID: 6ED3AE50B16A784E93-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 AG    HW: 4H0 907 064 AG
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H24 0217  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 03A83000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 6ED3AE50B96A784E93-803A

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4H0 905 852 B    HW: 4H0 905 852 B
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H38 0044 

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 4G0-820-043-2Z.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 820 043 H    HW: 4G0 820 043 H
   Component: KLIMA 2 ZONEN H10 0056  
   Serial number: 27041100040473
   Coding: 34010008A0
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiBasisUDS 002033
   ROD: EV_AirCondiBasisUDS.rod
   VCID: 24478C782F26821E35-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 4H0-907-063-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 063 J    HW: 4H0 907 063 B
   Component: BCM1 2.0      H12 0092  
   Revision: 13012002    Serial number: 00000001011081
   Coding: 690000108034A7600405008300005F5F0F9C820826080101000004402000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 2F6D73547EE03146D8-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G1 955 119     HW: 4G8 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS57X 110409  H35 0051 
   Coding: 0045F7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS  H04 0003 
   Coding: 02512B

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4G0 941 531     HW: 4G0 941 531 
   Component: E1 - LDS  H07 0044 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 658 A    HW: 4G0 907 658 A
   Component: Humidity_Sens  H02 0002 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 4H0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 655 C    HW: 4H0 959 655 C
   Component: Airbag10.43   H40 0040  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003JG0027JUA
   Coding: 30323436313230303039554A304C34473053
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU64X 001014
   ROD: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU64X_AU57.rod
   VCID: 3663463089BA008E9B-8062

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB404T0H922CGB9

   Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB405H0HM76D0E9

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515JRB40690EB5UJ164

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525JRB404R0HCMSFPDO

   Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 3554VRB40550FAMAFP3S

   Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3564VRB40530FAMAG95E

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 4H0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 953 568 E    HW: 4H0 953 568 E
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H03 0003  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90372KDD0014G 
   Coding: 000010
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 3561413C9CBC0B9692-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G0 951 528 D    HW: 4G0 951 528 D
   Component: E221 - MFL  H07 0009 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 4G8 920 900 C    HW: 4G8 920 900 C
   Component: MDieRdw       H29 0086  
   Revision: 18420081    Serial number: 658300311593012
   Coding: 1305080003010008010000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RBC7KMID 004040
   ROD: EV_RBC7KMID.rod
   VCID: 2A5B62404D02546E0F-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 468 B    HW: 4G0 907 468 
   Component: J533--Gateway H08 0204  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000000130347
   Coding: 00CD074400
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewUDS 001025
   ROD: EV_GatewUDS_AU57.rod
   VCID: 2F6D735476E03146D8-807A

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8X0 915 181     HW: 8X0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0140 
   Serial number: 00000000005650125719

   Voltage stabilizer: 

No fault code found.

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Address 3B: Sensor Elect. (J849)       Labels: 4G0-907-637.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 637     HW: 4G0 907 637 
   Component: SARA 3D       H02 0004  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EJ1BPA32004WD50
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SARA 006014
   ROD: EV_SARA.rod
   VCID: 6BD5A74482788D66B4-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G8 959 793 C    HW: 4G8 959 793 A
   Component: TSG FA        H04 0210  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011C06205000620002080002
   Shop #: WSC 02312 785 00200
   VCID: 408F20E8D37EBE3E31-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 8K0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 909 144 L    HW: 4G0 909 144 F
   Component: RCEPS         H32 0010  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0010064151
   Coding: 101000010000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPS 009008
   ROD: EV_RCEPS.rod
   VCID: 326B7A2065D21CAEB7-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels: 4H0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 AG    HW: 4H0 907 064 AG
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H24 0217  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0147986312    
   Coding: 0100062000B904C083200804000100000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 6ED3AE50B96A784E93-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G8 959 792 C    HW: 4G8 959 792 A
   Component: TSG BF        H04 0210  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011C06205C00620002080002
   Shop #: WSC 02312 785 00200
   VCID: 3F8D2314AE80C1C648-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 4H0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 801 E    HW: 4H0 907 801 A
   Component: EPB-4         H03 0012  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000000064319
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001022
   ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod
   VCID: 2A5B62404D02546E0F-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 180 A    HW: 4G0 035 180 
   Component: RMC           H43 0530  
   Coding: 0100000001411947002B040001010000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 1D31B99C044CB3D67A-8048

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G0 919 603     HW: 4G0 919 603 
   Component: DU6 Basic  H42 0084 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4G1 919 615 K    HW: 4G1 919 615 K
   Component: E380 BDT C7  H08 0120 

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G8 959 795 C    HW: 4G8 959 795 A
   Component: TSG HL        H03 0210  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010804204000620002080002
   Shop #: WSC 02312 785 00200
   VCID: 428B2AE0DD72AC2E27-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G8 959 795 C    HW: 4G8 959 795 A
   Component: TSG HR        H03 0210  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010804204000620002080002
   Shop #: WSC 02312 785 00200
   VCID: 428B2AE0DD72AC2E27-8016

No fault code found.

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My verification process is pending, but I hope I could already get some support from you guys, thanks in advance.

 

[golfi_vend]

Does the Steering module support ACC?

 

[Uwe]

Timo is verified; moving to Retrofits...

-Uwe-

 

[Timonator]

I have no idea if the steering module supports ACC or normal CC. I googled some and asked around and I thought it was as simple as swapping the handles and enabling it in the software. But I think I am not that fortunate.

 

[golfi_vend]

After quick search i wasn't able to locate any ACC fitted cars with this SWCM, but as i said. Quick search.

Where did you get stalks? Maybe you can get module from there also.

 

[NEtech]

No, as far as I know 4H0 953 568 E, does not support Cruise Control.

 

[Timonator]

Is the steering wheel module the only one that is not compatible? Or do I need to aquire more modules, for example engine module?

Update:
I did some more research on the steering module, to see what I need.
According to partbase.org I found:

4H0 953 568 A	:	PR-GH0, GH1+, QZ7+7Y0, 7Y1+, 8T1
4H0 953 568 B	:	PR-GH0, GH1+, QZ7+7Y0, 7Y1+, 8T4	
4H0 953 568 C	:	PR-GH0, GH1+, QZ7+7Y0, 7Y1+, 8T0
4H0 953 568 D	:	PR-GH0, GH1+, QZ7+7Y0, 7Y1+, 8T1
4H0 953 568 E	:	PR-GH0, GH1+, QZ7+7Y0, 7Y1+, 8T0
4H0 953 568 F	:	PR-GH0, GH1+, QZ7+7Y0, 7Y1+, 8T1
4H0 953 568 G	:	PR-GH0, GH1+, QZ7+7Y0, 7Y1+, 8T4
4H0 953 568 H	:	PR-GH0, GH1+, QZ7+7Y0, 7Y1+, 8T4

According to ebay I found:

A	=>	CCS/ACC
B	=>	CCS/ACC
C	=>   nothing
D	=>	CCS
E	=>	no CCS/ACC
F	=> 	CCS
G	=>	ACC, Lane assist, 
H	=>	CCS/ACC, (steering wheel heating)

The lookup of PR codes:

8T0 =	no CCS
8T1	=	Cruise control system (CCS)
8T2	=	Cruise control system (CCS) electronic
8T3	=	Adaptive Cruise Control and cruise control system
8T4	=	Adaptive Cruise Control
8T5	=	Distance control plus cruise control
8T6	=	Cruise control system plus speed limiter
8T7	=	Distance control plus cruise control andspeed limiter (without follow to stop)
8T8	=	Distance control plus cruise control andspeed limiter (wit follow to stop)

7Y0	=	Without lane change assistant
7Y1	=	Lane change assistant
7Y2	=	Lane Departure Warning
7Y3	=	Lane change assistant plus lane departure warning
7Y4	=	Lane departure warning
7Y5	=	Lane change assistant plus lane departure warning

QZ7	=	Power steering

GH0	=	Without rear axle differential
GH1	=	Basic rear axle differential
GH2	=	Rear axle differential Torque Vectoring

It seems that if a module supports CCS it also supports ACC. Is there a way to find out what the difference there is between the type numbers A-H? Other than googling for parts and guessing. Also can I just get a module wich supports everything and disable the things I don't need?

 

[Timonator]

Ok, so I did some more searching in parts databases.
I found for the A6 4G they only use the following codes

4H0 953 568 E => The one I have without options...
4G0 953 568 A => This one uses a coiled up cable => I don't think I need this one
4H0 953 568 G => This looks like the one I have now, but with the lane assist and CC
4H0 953 568 H
4H0 953 568 H Z00

I found an H which supports a heated steering wheel. Do all steering modules with their coils accept heated steering wheels? Or is there a limited amount of modules?
Just in case I want to change my steering wheel at a later point in time? Could somebody help me out, what module to get?

 

[Dana]

The best route is usually taking the factory installed module part number and checking the parts catalog to see what the direct replacement is. In this case that's 4H0 953 568 E (which was dropped in 2013) supers to > 4H0 953 568 H Z00.

Next, you want to make sure that latest number supports the functions you are looking to retrofit, both now and in the foreseeable future. Since 4H0 953 568 H Z00 is one of four possible Index or Color codes (i.e. 000, Z00, Z01, Z02) the exact number should be used rather than just the base H suffix. As far as I can tell 4H0 953 568 H Z00 fits 11/10 - 05/15 production cars with 8T1 (regular CCS) in addition to a number of other functions so it should be a safe bet.

 

[Timonator]

Thank you Dana for the information. Just maybe a silly question, but how do I know what version I am about to buy? I found multiple parts with the H version, but I cant find a 000, Z00, Z01 and Z02 marking on any of those part stickers.

 

[Timonator]

I got Cruise Control working. Thank you very much for the support. I just bought a 4H0 953 568 H. I got tons of errors at first, when I installed the module (Engine, steering, ABS, AC,etc.). When I copied the old steering wheel module code to the new module and added the CC option to the steering wheel module, instrument module and engine module (you have to turn off start/stop, otherwise you get an engine error after programming), most issues were gone. The only thing then left to do was calibrate the G85 steering angle sensor and teach the end stops. This process was clearly described in the Ross-tech wiki.

So thank you for now a working CCS

 

[fudolimr]

I got Cruise Control working. Thank you very much for the support. I just bought a 4H0 953 568 H. I got tons of errors at first, when I installed the module (Engine, steering, ABS, AC,etc.). When I copied the old steering wheel module code to the new module and added the CC option to the steering wheel module, instrument module and engine module (you have to turn off start/stop, otherwise you get an engine error after programming), most issues were gone. The only thing then left to do was calibrate the G85 steering angle sensor and teach the end stops. This process was clearly described in the Ross-tech wiki.

So thank you for now a working CCS

Can anyone provide the correct sequence of module coding changes that results in the successful switchover from ACC to CCS? I went through several modules (Engine [01], etc) and found the ACC references and switched them all over to CCS, as well as making sure that start/stop was turned off, as it also appears across several modules. I though I had it, but ended up with an EPC light that I seemingly could not clear without reversing all of the ACC to CCS changes I had made across all of the modules where I found it. My front end was damaged by an unknown animal jumping out of the dark and in front of the car on the highway a week ago, which took out the lower half of the grille and bumper on the right, unseating the ACC sensor. I really just need normal cruise to not be constantly adjusting speed over long drives on hilly roads. It is remarkable that this is not a menu enabled feature; there are a number of legitimate reasons to use CCS versus the very intrusive ACC.