Fuel Rail Pressure Too Low-Tested Injectors

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Hello all. I having P0087 code fuel rail pressure too low. I had injectors tested and resulted in one of the injectors has high return. Does this maybe explain the issue? if so, how? I would think if injector has high return, then it would mean i would have high fuel pressure, not low? Maybe i'm not thnking it right? Also, is there a way to see this high return with VCDS ? LIKE TESTING INJECTORS WITH vcds? Thanks
 
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Would be a lot easier to help if we knew the vehicle, engine and model year - to help with this please post an Auto-Scan
 
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What year is your Lada? ;)
 
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I'm not near the vcds. I took phone picture of log when code pops in with check engine light.
 
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Has specified high pressure and actual..will this help? Also, have been having DPF regen frequency fault as well. Not sure if this is related.
 
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This is last auto scan log:

Code:
Wednesday,03,January,2024,13:31:18:01454
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 23.11.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20231027 DS351.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 1VWBN7A32DC076445   License Plate: 
Mileage: 221320km-137521mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: A3-VW41 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 4F 52 56 62 72
         

VIN: 1VWBN7A32DC076445   Mileage: 221320km-137521miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CKRA)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 997 009 J    HW: 03L 907 309 S
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H23 9982  
   Revision: 71H23---    Serial number:                CVN: D240C61F5C3E0D04
   Coding: 001D0012042400000000
   Shop #: WSC 22194 444 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L997009J 004005
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L997009H.rod
   VCID: 3B233CC303E5FA323A1-806E
   VINID: 0669D27874430944C01C6104147C1ACF14

2 Faults Found:
5211 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure 
          P0087 00 [01100101] - Too Low
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 221294 km
                    Date: 2024.01.02
                    Time: 11:11:38

                    Engine RPM: 1988.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 88.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 87 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 103  C
                    Intake air temperature: 37  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 950 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.200 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 78
                    Fuel temperature: 25.9  C
                    Mean injection quantity: 52.44 mg/stroke
                    Rail pressure regulation: status-Bits 0-7: 5
                    Fuel high-pressure: actual value: 1294100 hPa
                    High fuel pressure: specified value: 1582900 hPa
                    Pressure control valve adaptation factor: 1.0945
                    Fuel level: 64.00 l

5227 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure 
          P0087 00 [11101100] - Too Low
          MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 221297 km
                    Date: 2024.01.02
                    Time: 11:17:46

                    Engine RPM: 2209.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 84.7 %
                    Vehicle speed: 96 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 104  C
                    Intake air temperature: 33  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 950 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.260 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Fuel temperature: 28.4  C
                    Mean injection quantity: 48.90 mg/stroke
                    Rail pressure regulation: status-Bits 0-7: 4
                    Fuel high-pressure: actual value: 1347900 hPa
                    High fuel pressure: specified value: 1664800 hPa
                    Pressure control valve adaptation factor: 1.0446
                    Fuel level: 3.00 l

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 058 M    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     512 9436  
   Revision: 05551213    Serial number: 00001209182057
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2411E7BF92DBA5CA6BB-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: C54BC0F549290000A30F03E8921E0042A71000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 7DA7F2DB5DF13402445-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 561 907 426 A    HW: 561 907 426 A
   Component: AC Manuell    H02 0101  
   Revision: 00001K07    
   Coding: 0010001002
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC 001002
   ROD: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC_VW36.rod
   VCID: 196FC64BA919E822C8D-804C

1 Fault Found:
9477489 - Motor for Air Distribution Flap 
          B109D 71 [00001000] - Actuator Stuck
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 105
                    Mileage: 221117 km
                    Date: 2023.12.22
                    Time: 17:40:26


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 AA    HW: 5K0 937 087 AA
   Component: BCM PQ35 H+   121 0168  
   Revision: BL121001    
   Coding: 6F200E1B902B08D408880001160085480071008640A00560648060000C70
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 74B1D7FF6EBB754A3BB-8020

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 240912 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 22300A

3 Faults Found:
00956 - Key 2 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 220719 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.05.08
                    Time: 11:49:13

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 21
                    Reset counter: 113
                    Mileage: 220813 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.05.09
                    Time: 16:29:32

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 13.70 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        ON

02746 - Bulb for Daytime Running Light; Right 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 220719 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.05.08
                    Time: 11:49:15

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 12.15 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655     HW: 5C0 959 655 
   Component: AirbagVW10G   013 0809  
   Serial number: 003ENM056M09   Dataset Number: 560003v__A_ 0049
   Coding: 00003548
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01024
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 6FBBD893071D5692C69-803A

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
   Serial number: 6940000Y120000LZBM0G
   Coding: 303044

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME30653173ZZZL

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME605A6273ZZZX

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3516KSME166B2520ZZZM

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3526KSME323B0B20ZZZM

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3556LSME64056E1EZZZ1

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3566LSME261A761EZZZ%

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 AK    HW: 5K0 953 569 B
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010041    Serial number: 20121001302345
   Coding: 088A140000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 76B5EDF77847675A05F-8022

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-YVJ  H07 0022 
   Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 561 920 970 E    HW: 561 920 970 E
   Component: KOMBI         H07 0705  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 231E01
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 1C61DF5FA62B9D0AD3B-8048

2 Faults Found:
9453074 - Fuel Level Sensor 1 
          B103E 1B [00001000] - Resistance Too High
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 114

9459995 - Covering for fuel level indicator sensor 1 
          B1059 1B [00001000] - Resistance Too High
          [Geber 1 f r Kraftstoffvorratsanzeige:  bergangswiderstand zu gro ]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 139
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 220722 km
                    Date: 2023.12.16
                    Time: 12:11:17


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AH    HW: 7N0 907 530 AH
   Component: J533  Gateway H50 1634  
   Revision:   H50       Serial number: 10111203290546
   Coding: 461000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 76B5EDF778C7675A05F-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H07 0705  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC9873CFFB3BA917-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0546  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7663363842    
   Coding: 020100
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2A0D0987FCFF73BA517-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 274 D    HW: 1K0 035 274 D
   Component: RNS315-NAR    H35 0319  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2M4239743
   Coding: 0400040104000B000000100A
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS_VW41.rod
   VCID: 2517FABB95615CC27C5-8070

   Data carrier: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 B
   Component: NAR_V3_(0037)  0037 

1 Fault Found:
1048642 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error 
          B2000 42 [00001001] - General Memory Failure
          [ECU defect data memory failure]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 146115 km
                    Date: 2020.10.01
                    Time: 22:27:47


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 B
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0525  
   Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0005720211
   Coding: 0404F5
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 5BE39C43E3A5DA321A1-800E

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 811     HW: 561 959 811   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  004 4472 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 290    3305  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 372B20F3334DDE52DE9-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AH
   Component: EZE_2         H50 1634  
   Revision:   H50       Serial number: 10111203290546
   Coding: 01030108
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 6FBBD893079D5692C69-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 591     HW: 561 959 591 
   Component: J245 P05 FFD7  H07 0004 
   Serial number: 53388786011223200119
   Coding: 181100

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 561 919 204 B    HW: 561 919 204 B
   Component: Analoguhr  008 0005 

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 B
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0525  
   Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0005690344
   Coding: 0404F4
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 5CE19F5FE6ABDD0A13B-8008

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 812     HW: 561 959 812   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  004 4472 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

End(Elapsed Time: 01:06, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V, udsna)--
 
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I clear fault codes then drive again. Codes come back, These are last ones:

Code:
Wednesday,03,April,2024,19:48:54:01454
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 23.11.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20231027 DS351.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 1VWBN7A32DC076445   License Plate: 



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                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03L 997 009 J    HW: 03L 907 309 S
  Component and/or Version: R4 2.0l TDI   H23 9982
           Software Coding: 001D0012042400000000
            Work Shop Code: WSC 22194 444 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L997009J 004005 (VW41)
                       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L997009H.rod
                      VCID: 3B233CC303E5FA323A1-806E
2 Faults Found:

5211 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure 
          P0087 00 [10101111] - Too Low
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Mileage: 222412 km
                    Date: 2127.14.02
                    Time: 09:18:06

                    Engine RPM: 2126.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 79.2 %
                    Vehicle speed: 70 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 103  C
                    Intake air temperature: 25  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.320 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Fuel temperature: 45.0  C
                    Mean injection quantity: 31.85 mg/stroke
                    Rail pressure regulation: status-Bits 0-7: 5
                    Fuel high-pressure: actual value: 1501700 hPa
                    High fuel pressure: specified value: 1701800 hPa
                    Pressure control valve adaptation factor: 1.1399
                    Fuel level: 33.00 l

8863 - Particulate Filter 
          P2459 00 [01100101] - Regeneration Frequency
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 222413 km
                    Date: 2127.14.02
                    Time: 09:23:46

                    Engine RPM: 1472.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 80.4 %
                    Vehicle speed: 77 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 104  C
                    Intake air temperature: 26  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.280 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Exhaust gas jet volume in particle filter: 177.9 m /h
                    Particle filter: difference pressure: 159 hPa
                    Particle filter: soot mass measured: 24.12 g
                    Particle filter: soot mass calculated: 24.10 g
                    Particle filter: differential pressure: dynamic offset: -24 hPa
                    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 293.9  C
                    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 219.3  C


Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
 
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I had injectors tested and resulted in one of the injectors has high return. Does this maybe explain the issue? if so, how? I would think if injector has high return, then it would mean i would have high fuel pressure, not low? Maybe i'm not thnking it right?
Yes it does.... think about it.... your pump pressurizes the rail to X amount. (well, in your case, attempts to.... because based on scan data, it can't do it)
Rich (BB code):
5211 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
          P0087 00 [10101111] - Too Low
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:

                    Fuel high-pressure: actual value: 1501700 hPa
                    High fuel pressure: specified value: 1701800 hPa

The injectors draw from said pressure when injecting, and also "bleed off" so much via their "return flow".
So now that one of them is "bleeding off" way more than normal, that means your rail pressure is "dropping" a lot more than it should... because there's a "bigger hole" in the system.
The injector's return doesn't flow back into the rail... so why would the fuel amount escaping through the return increase your rail pressure?
 
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Yea, that's where I was missunderstanding; return NOT going back to Rail then. Other thing is these loss of power happened only after driving for a while . At first, car drove fine. I there any ideas why the delay symptoms?
 
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Yea, that's where I was missunderstanding; return NOT going back to Rail then. Other thing is these loss of power happened only after driving for a while . At first, car drove fine. I there any ideas why the delay symptoms?
I'm not sure I follow what you are asking, but if we are to have theoretical discussions, it's possible that when you were "first driving", you were not asking for sufficient engine output, so as such, the HPFP would be able to keep up with the requested rail pressure (even with a giant hole in your system - aka leaky injector)..... but once you demanded more output, then the simple firing of the injectors was consuming (read draining) much more rail pressure, so now that giant leak was more of an issue and resulted in the HPFP not being able to supply enough flow\pressure to maintain the requested rail pressure for the operating conditions.
 
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Thanks, and it make sense your explanations and visuals. I guess my question is that when i first drove it at the beginning of the day, I could actually step on the gas, and pretty hard (demanding lots of pressure) . Car would respond as it should. After maybe 6-10 miles, at regular operating engine temp, is when i would get the fault and symptoms. Right before the fault (glowing plug and loss of power-limp mode) i would hear this whirring sound coming from engine bay. Maybe, there is a valve in the injector that after it reaches certain temp, it begins to fail, and why it does not fail right away? Thanka again for detailed explanations. I do have a new innjector on order and will replace. Hoping this is the issue and fix. If this is fixed, next step is to look into DPF-Regen Frequency issue; maybe i'm lucky and this is related and will fix that too .
 
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