2004 TOUAREG YES CRANK, NO START

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Alright, well I am still at it.

Here are of the things that I have tried so far and then here is a fresh auto scan...

Originally I purchased this car and it would start, run for 30 seconds & die. Replaced both fuel pumps and fixed this problem.

Then my wife was driving it & all electrical shut off and so did the car. Pulled over & towed home.

Then a few intermittent starts, but died shortly after. Never to start again.

YES CRANK BUT NO START.


WHAT I HAVE TRIED:

1) New Fuel Pumps
2) New battery
3) Bench test ECU/PCM: found in good working order. no fault to grounds.
4) Pulled up drivers carpet & inspected drivers footwell wiring for corrosion. Found minor & cut and re-spliced connections.
5) Checked 404 relay under passenger side hood relay box, working

What I'm doing today:
Checking the electrical grounds under the hood.

Questions: Is there anything that I am missing or is there a way to track down all of the listed fault to ground and intermittent faults?

Thanks as always for the help and my fight continues!!!

ps. I didn't know how to link this to the old thread and also post a new auto scan.

Code: 
Sunday,22,March,2020,13:49:22:54382
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: Dave and Joey's Bone-Yard

VIN: WVGBC77L34D064021   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 7L (7L - VW Touareg (2003 > 11/2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 29 32 34 36
          37 39 3C 46 47 55 56 57 64 65 68 69 6C 6D 6E 75 76 77
 
VIN: WVGBC77L34D064021   Mileage: 252670km-157001miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-BMX.lbl
   Part No SW: 022 906 032 BF    HW:             
   Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1G   9779  
   Coding: 0000133
   Shop #: WSC 19226 444 59215
   VCID: 50F97738A6FE7567197-5160

19 Faults Found:
17069 - ECM Power Relay Control Circuit 
            P0685 - 004 - Open Circuit
16660 - Fuel Injector #6 (N84) 
            P0276 - 002 - Short to Ground
17833 - EVAP Purge Valve (N80) 
            P1425 - 002 - Short to Ground
16645 - Fuel Injector #1 (N30) 
            P0261 - 002 - Short to Ground
16651 - Fuel Injector #3 (N32) 
            P0267 - 002 - Short to Ground
16657 - Fuel Injector #5 (N83) 
            P0273 - 002 - Short to Ground
17880 - EVAP Leak Detection Pump 
            P1472 - 002 - Short to Ground
17843 - Secondary Air Pump Relay (J299) 
            P1435 - 002 - Short to Ground
16654 - Fuel Injector #4 (N33) 
            P0270 - 002 - Short to Ground
17457 - Bank1; Exhaust Cam Adjustment Valve 1 (N318) 
            P1049 - 002 - Short to Ground
17935 - Camshaft Timing Adj. Bank1 (N205) 
            P1527 - 002 - Short to Ground
16648 - Fuel Injector #2 (N31) 
            P0264 - 002 - Short to Ground
18334 - Relay for Aux Coolant Pump (J496) 
            P1926 - 002 - Short to Ground
16441 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B2 S2: Heating Circuit 
            P0057 - 002 - Short to Ground
16421 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: Heating Circuit 
            P0037 - 002 - Short to Ground
17876 - EVAP Canister Solenoid Valve 2 (N115) 
            P1468 - 002 - Short to Ground
17836 - Circuit for Brake Vacuum Pump 
            P1428 - 002 - Short to Ground
17522 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S2 
            P1114 - 002 - Internal Resistance too High
17548 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B2 S2 
            P1140 - 002 - Internal Resistance too High
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09D-927-750.clb
   Part No: 09D 927 750 BD
   Component: AL 600 6Q           0582  
   Coding: 0004153
   Shop #: WSC 19419 444 53362
   VCID: 71BFD2BC0DB45C6F369-5160

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25.lbl
   Part No: 7L0 907 379 D
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25     0108  
   Coding: 0014337
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 3A2D35901042DF37C73-5160

4 Faults Found:
00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Right (G44) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
65534 - Unknown Error Code 
            015 - Cannot Be Tested at this Time - MIL ON

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
   Part No SW: 3D0 909 135 K    HW: 5WK 470 25
   Component:    Kessy            6400  
   Coding: 0000232
   Shop #: WSC 19226 444 59215
   VCID: 2D070ECCD10C788F521-5160

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: ELV                 XXXX

6 Faults Found:
00166 - Access/Start Authorization Switch (E415) 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
00172 - Key 2 not learned 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
00087 - Terminal 30 for Starting Relevant Consumers 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 7L6-907-040.clb
   Part No: 7L6 907 040 H
   Component: CLIMAtronic R/L   X 3716  
   Coding: 0000030
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 353726AC395C304F2A1-5160

4 Faults Found:
00898 - Control Circuit A/C compressor 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7Lx-937-049-V1.clb
   Part No: 7L6 937 049 K
   Component:                     2703  
   Coding: 0101599
   Shop #: WSC 19400 444 85723
   VCID: 44D14B68628699C7ADF-5160

4 Faults Found:
00907 - Intervention load Management 
            000 - -
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
02088 - Lights for Auxiliary High Beams 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
01520 - Rain and Light Recognition Sensor (G397) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 601 C
   Component: 05 Airbag 8.4E++H01 0352  
   Revision: BB36963     Serial number: 00009760      
   Coding: 0012341
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 2313E8F487C8BEFFF45-5160

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 005 0006

3 Faults Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2063.15.31
                    Time: 31:60:00

01316 - ABS Control Module 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2063.15.31
                    Time: 31:60:00

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 15
                    Reset counter: 39
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2063.15.31
                    Time: 31:60:00


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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 953 549 D
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul     3301  
   Coding: 0000031
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 40D94778769E85E7897-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7L6-920-xxx-7LA.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 920 970 RX
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT RB0 2035  
   Coding: 0007231
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1E65D900ACAA9317DBB-5160

3 Faults Found:
00438 - Fuel Supply Sensor 2 (G169) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<>CAN      0101  
   Coding: 0000006
   Shop #: WSC 19226 444 59215
   VCID: 70B9D7B806BE5567397-5160

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 7L6-919-879.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 919 879 
   Component: JCI PathPoint       1700  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 04518B68220659C7EDF-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: None
   Part No: 0AD 927 755 BE
   Component: TRANSFERCASE        0122  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7F5B04844BE03A1FB0D-5160

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 29: Left Light        Labels: 3D0-909-157.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 157 
   Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(l)  0001  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 19226 444 59215
   VCID: 6695B1E0347A8BD753B-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L0 959 760 
   Component: Sitzverstellung     0702  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 77ABECA463D0025FF8D-5160

5 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
02327 - Position Sensor for Front Seat Height Adjustment (G438) 
            006 - Short to Plus
02341 - Position Sensor for Seat Fore/Aft Adjustment (G441) 
            006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
02328 - Position Sensor for Rear Seat Height Adjustment (G439) 
            006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
01916 - Lumbar Support Fore / Aft Adjustment Sensor (G375) 
            006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent

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Address 39: Right Light        Labels: 3D0-909-158.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 158 
   Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(r)  0001  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 19226 444 59215
   VCID: 678BBCE4337092DF68D-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7L0-959-933.lbl
   Part No: 7L0 959 933 E
   Component: 2K HSG              0201  
   Coding: 0000085
   Shop #: WSC 19419 444 53362
   VCID: 3E2539800C6AF317FBB-4B3C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 701 A
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0201

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L0 959 702 A
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0201

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7L0 959 703 
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7L0 959 704 
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201

12 Faults Found:
00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00926 - Terminal 30 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00132 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Passenger Side 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00931 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Right (F223) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 7L6-035-180-56.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 035 180 B
   Component: Radio DE2           0016  
   Coding: 0000401
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2C0103C8EA16718745F-5160

4 Faults Found:
00878 - Connection to Speaker Front Left 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00879 - Connection to Speaker Front Right 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00881 - Connection to Speaker Rear Right 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 
            000 - -

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels:. 7L6-907-273.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 907 273 
   Component: Reifendruckueberw.  0052  
   Coding: 0211390
   Shop #: WSC 19400 444 85723
   VCID: 75B7E6AC79DC704FEA1-5160

1 Fault Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON

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Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 7L0-955-119-V1.clb
   Part No: 7L0 955 119 F
   Component: Front Wiper         2416  
   Coding: 0000004
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 376832
   VCID: 372B2CA42350C25F38D-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 6E: Ctrl Head Roof        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L6 919 044 F
   Component: DACHDISPLAY         0530  
   Revision: 00600530    Serial number: 2009289.02    
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 3A2D35901042DF37C73-5160

1 Fault Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Wet Kessy?

Kessy needs to be fixed for terminal 15/30 and Fuel Pump Relay or you are not going anywhere?
 
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I don't think it would crank if this were the Kessy's fault.

All those Short to Ground codes make me thing there's no 12V on the hot side of those actuators. Blown fuse or relay not passing power to them.

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Usually not intermittent though when fuse is blown but corrosion in fuse box or Kessy from water is likely maybe bad E415 possible too.
 
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Hi Jack & Ewe,

Thank you for your replies. One bit of good info that I can supply is that when I purchased the car the under hood drivers side electrical box (with all of the relays) was escew & had standing water. I dried it out with a shop vac & fan in my garage.

Could corrosion in the electrical box be causing all of these faults? Should I start by removing/replacing the electrical box or all of the relays?

Question: I am not sure if the car has a kessy system. Do all Touareg's have Kessy if not then how do I check?

Jack, you said..."Kessy needs to be fixed for terminal 15/30 and Fuel Pump Relay or you are not going anywhere?"

Do you mean to check that the Kessy works (if I have one) in order for terminal 15/30 & the fuel pump relay to work? The reason that I ask is because I have tested the 404 Fuel pump relay & it works fine, but the fuel pumps do not prime when I open the drivers door as they should. If I provide direct power to the pumps themselves they both work fine.

Thank you as always for the help. I am trying everything that I can think of.
 
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Hi Jack & Ewe,

Thank you for your replies. One bit of good info that I can supply is that when I purchased the car the under hood drivers side electrical box (with all of the relays) was escew & had standing water. I dried it out with a shop vac & fan in my garage.

Could corrosion in the electrical box be causing all of these faults? Should I start by removing/replacing the electrical box or all of the relays?

Question: I am not sure if the car has a kessy system. Do all Touareg's have Kessy if not then how do I check?

Jack, you said..."Kessy needs to be fixed for terminal 15/30 and Fuel Pump Relay or you are not going anywhere?"

Do you mean to check that the Kessy works (if I have one) in order for terminal 15/30 & the fuel pump relay to work? The reason that I ask is because I have tested the 404 Fuel pump relay & it works fine, but the fuel pumps do not prime when I open the drivers door as they should. If I provide direct power to the pumps themselves they both work fine.

Thank you as always for the help. I am trying everything that I can think of.
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JPPSG and RTFB

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot


http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Official_Factory_Repair_Information


WHAT'S THIS SAY BELOW IN SCAN?





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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
Part No SW: 3D0 909 135 K HW: 5WK 470 25
Component: Kessy 6400
Coding: 0000232
Shop #: WSC 19226 444 59215
VCID: 2D070ECCD10C788F521-5160

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX

6 Faults Found:
00166 - Access/Start Authorization Switch (E415)
014 - Defective - Intermittent
00172 - Key 2 not learned
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
00087 - Terminal 30 for Starting Relevant Consumers
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent

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Hi Jack,

I get it...

So here is my plan. I will start by checking the Kessy and visually inspect the electrical box on the drivers side plenum (after I have removed all of the fuses/relays). The I will use my multi-meter to make sure that all of the relays are working.

Does this sound like the correct line of attach?

Jack, How do you check for a bad E415? Does this mean that the cars security immobilizer is not recognizing the key?

I plan on trying all of these solutions tonight/every night this week after work.

Dave
 
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Hi Jack,

I get it...

So here is my plan. I will start by checking the Kessy and visually inspect the electrical box on the drivers side plenum (after I have removed all of the fuses/relays). The I will use my multi-meter to make sure that all of the relays are working.

Does this sound like the correct line of attach?

Jack, How do you check for a bad E415? Does this mean that the cars security immobilizer is not recognizing the key?

I plan on trying all of these solutions tonight/every night this week after work.

Dave
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The fish tank can't be cleaned or inspected properly until it's empty, huh?

Did you clear codes in 0x05 and see if they come back & after all needed inputs are verified present by load light isolated and that VCDS blocks show key or transponder status by antenna or D2 are present with proper E415 function using RTFB and WD by basic electrical troubleshooting skills?

 
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2004 TOUAREG V6 3.2L YES CRANKS BUT NO START

Down below is the latest auto scan from my Touareg.

Still has some of the "short to ground" or "open circuit" faults.

Just yesterday I replaced the 433 relay under the drivers seat (the thinking being that because of all of the electrical faults/ground shorts) that possibly this relay going bad could have been effecting the other things further down stream (not sure if this logic is correct).

The Treg still will crank but not start. When I first put the key in the ignition the dash lights up as normal, but it will not even crank if I turn it right away. If I wait for approx 15 sec the EPC light will come on and then I can crank the car...but no start ever.

I was thinking about replacing the J519 Power Control Module (its on the side of the electrical cluster behind the steering wheel, by the drivers knees) in the hopes that this is what is at fault for all my electrical worries.

Or should I be looking elswhere?

Thoughts???

Here's the scan...Thanks again. Dave

Code: 
Friday,10,April,2020,17:44:01:54382
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: Dave and Joey's Bone-Yard

VIN: WVGBC77L34D064021   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 7L (7L - VW Touareg (2003 > 11/2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 29 32 34 36
          37 39 3C 46 47 55 56 57 64 65 68 69 6C 6D 6E 75 76 77
 
VIN: WVGBC77L34D064021   Mileage: 252670km-157001miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-BMX.lbl
   Part No SW: 022 906 032 BF    HW:             
   Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1G   9779  
   Coding: 0000133
   Shop #: WSC 19226 444 59215
   VCID: 50F97738A6FE7567197-5160

19 Faults Found:
17069 - ECM Power Relay Control Circuit 
            P0685 - 004 - Open Circuit
16660 - Fuel Injector #6 (N84) 
            P0276 - 002 - Short to Ground
17833 - EVAP Purge Valve (N80) 
            P1425 - 002 - Short to Ground
16645 - Fuel Injector #1 (N30) 
            P0261 - 002 - Short to Ground
16651 - Fuel Injector #3 (N32) 
            P0267 - 002 - Short to Ground
16657 - Fuel Injector #5 (N83) 
            P0273 - 002 - Short to Ground
17880 - EVAP Leak Detection Pump 
            P1472 - 002 - Short to Ground
17843 - Secondary Air Pump Relay (J299) 
            P1435 - 002 - Short to Ground
16654 - Fuel Injector #4 (N33) 
            P0270 - 002 - Short to Ground
17457 - Bank1; Exhaust Cam Adjustment Valve 1 (N318) 
            P1049 - 002 - Short to Ground
17935 - Camshaft Timing Adj. Bank1 (N205) 
            P1527 - 002 - Short to Ground
16648 - Fuel Injector #2 (N31) 
            P0264 - 002 - Short to Ground
18334 - Relay for Aux Coolant Pump (J496) 
            P1926 - 002 - Short to Ground
16441 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B2 S2: Heating Circuit 
            P0057 - 002 - Short to Ground
16421 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: Heating Circuit 
            P0037 - 002 - Short to Ground
17876 - EVAP Canister Solenoid Valve 2 (N115) 
            P1468 - 002 - Short to Ground
17836 - Circuit for Brake Vacuum Pump 
            P1428 - 002 - Short to Ground
17522 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S2 
            P1114 - 002 - Internal Resistance too High
17548 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B2 S2 
            P1140 - 002 - Internal Resistance too High
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09D-927-750.clb
   Part No: 09D 927 750 BD
   Component: AL 600 6Q           0582  
   Coding: 0004153
   Shop #: WSC 19419 444 53362
   VCID: 71BFD2BC0DB45C6F369-5160

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25.lbl
   Part No: 7L0 907 379 D
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25     0108  
   Coding: 0014337
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 3A2D35901042DF37C73-5160

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 - -
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
   Part No SW: 3D0 909 135 K    HW: 5WK 470 25
   Component:    Kessy            6400  
   Coding: 0000232
   Shop #: WSC 19226 444 59215
   VCID: 2D070ECCD10C788F521-5160

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: ELV                 XXXX

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 7L6-907-040.clb
   Part No: 7L6 907 040 H
   Component: CLIMAtronic R/L   X 3716  
   Coding: 0000030
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 353726AC395C304F2A1-5160

3 Faults Found:
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7Lx-937-049-V1.clb
   Part No: 7L6 937 049 K
   Component:                     2703  
   Coding: 0101599
   Shop #: WSC 19400 444 85723
   VCID: 44D14B68628699C7ADF-5160

1 Fault Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 601 C
   Component: 05 Airbag 8.4E++H01 0352  
   Revision: BB36963     Serial number: 00009760      
   Coding: 0012341
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 2313E8F487C8BEFFF45-5160

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 005 0006

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 953 549 D
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul     3301  
   Coding: 0000031
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 40D94778769E85E7897-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7L6-920-xxx-7LA.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 920 970 RX
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT RB0 2035  
   Coding: 0007231
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1E65D900ACAA9317DBB-5160

2 Faults Found:
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<>CAN      0101  
   Coding: 0000006
   Shop #: WSC 19226 444 59215
   VCID: 70B9D7B806BE5567397-5160

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 7L6-919-879.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 919 879 
   Component: JCI PathPoint       1700  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 04518B68220659C7EDF-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: None
   Part No: 0AD 927 755 BE
   Component: TRANSFERCASE        0122  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7F5B04844BE03A1FB0D-5160

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 29: Left Light        Labels: 3D0-909-157.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 157 
   Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(l)  0001  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 19226 444 59215
   VCID: 6695B1E0347A8BD753B-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L0 959 760 
   Component: Sitzverstellung     0702  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 77ABECA463D0025FF8D-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 39: Right Light        Labels: 3D0-909-158.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 158 
   Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(r)  0001  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 19226 444 59215
   VCID: 678BBCE4337092DF68D-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7L0-959-933.lbl
   Part No: 7L0 959 933 E
   Component: 2K HSG              0201  
   Coding: 0000085
   Shop #: WSC 19419 444 53362
   VCID: 3E2539800C6AF317FBB-4B3C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 701 A
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0201

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L0 959 702 A
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0201

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7L0 959 703 
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7L0 959 704 
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201

12 Faults Found:
00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00926 - Terminal 30 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00132 - Outside Door Handle Illumination/mirror Light Passenger Side 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00931 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Right (F223) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 7L6-035-180-56.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 035 180 B
   Component: Radio DE2           0016  
   Coding: 0000401
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2C0103C8EA16718745F-5160

1 Fault Found:
01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 
            000 - -

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels:. 7L6-907-273.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 907 273 
   Component: Reifendruckueberw.  0052  
   Coding: 0211390
   Shop #: WSC 19400 444 85723
   VCID: 75B7E6AC79DC704FEA1-5160

1 Fault Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON

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Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 7L0-955-119-V1.clb
   Part No: 7L0 955 119 F
   Component: Front Wiper         2416  
   Coding: 0000004
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 376832
   VCID: 372B2CA42350C25F38D-5160

No fault code found.

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You still have all those "Short to Ground" codes. Those things are low-side switched. That means they should have 12V on one side and the ECU pulls the other side to GND to turn those things on. Dig into your wiring diagrams and figure out why there's no +12V on the other side.

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Check fuses & Unplug the shorted OXS sensors yet and verify the ECU supply relay yet to power up terminal 30 using WD in RTFB?
 
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Good morning,

I got out my handy electrical tester over the weekend and found out that the bottom two fuses on both the drivers & passenger side cabin fuse boxes is out. (see attached) From the repair manual I CANT see what these fuses do, but I do know that they are not energized. All of the fuses on the drivers & passenger panels that do not work are the horizontal fuses at the very bottom of the panel. 4 total (2 drivers & 2 passenger). ***SORRY TRIED TO LOAD PICS BUT COULDN'T***

Also, on the hood plenum fuse box the #17 & #18 fuses are not powered and also #7-#12 fuses are all NOT POWERED.

Is there a relay other other item that could be causing these fuses to not get any power (and hopefully causing my no-start)?

Staying at it and trying to track this thing down!!! I am hoping that this new info will narrow it down enough...my wife really is excited to get her T-Reg back.

Thanks Dave
 
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***How do I get permission to upload Pictures to this and other threads???***

I printed and highlighted copies of the fuse box diagram from my manual (to illustrate the fuses that are not getting power) but I CANT figure out how to post the pics.

Thanks again and I am getting really excited that I am getting close to figuring out why this Touareg will not start :)
 
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Good morning Jack,

What do you think of the un-powered fuses that I have found?

Does this seem like the source of my troubles?

Where would I found the OXS sensors that you mentioned? I believe that I already replaced the ECU supply relay (located in the hood plenum electrical box).
 
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Davethewave1 said:
***How do I get permission to upload Pictures to this and other threads???***
Click to expand...

Per that How To Post Pictures thread, you firstly need to upload the photos to a host such as imgur, google photos, microsoft drive or similar. After doing so the url (link to those photos) can be posted here.

Regarding the power/fuses. There where 2 possible Engine diagrams so I went with the later: #48/1 labeled 3.2L - Engine - Motronic Multiport Fuel Injection (MFI) / 162 kW, code BAA from November 2003

I started by looking at that 17069/P0685 DTC which quickly lead me to components such as:
  • J271 - Motronic Engine Control Module (ECM) Power Supply Relay
  • J670 - Motronic Engine Control Module (ECM) Power Supply Relay 2
  • D50 - plus connection (30), in engine compartment wiring harness
.. which receive power from S15 - Fuse, in engine compartment (in E - box , air plenum, left). That should be easy enough, or so I thought, to determine where the upstream power comes from to feed fuses such as S2, S13, S14, S15, S16. Wrong, I hit a dead end at splice point: D75 - plus connection -2- (30), in engine compartment wiring harness

Before heading off on the wrong track (unnecessary hunt for D75 power source) please let us know if you have power to those fuses (or not). Your photos may shed light after you get them posted.

Additionally, S7, S8, S9 and S10 are all powered by J271 so let us know what voltage measurements you have at that relay.
 
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OK,

So last night I pulled both of the relays (#53 & #167) from the A1 & A3 slots from the engine/plenum fuse box. Both of the relays have been replaced and are functioning properly.

I confirmed with my multi-meter that the fuse box slots where the relays plug into are also energized and are receiving power.

I still have no power to any of the fuses that I have highlighted in red.

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