Passat 3c abs module coding

Nope it's a retro fit.........& by means of verification in the etka.

Fix it right or take to retrofits........

Jack@European_Parts said:

Nope it's a retro fit.........& by means of verification in the etka.

Fix it right or take to retrofits........

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your attitude stinks!

I don't have the resources to check these things on etka and the main dealer tells me the module is correct. I can only take this at face value!

I come here asking for help and all your interested in is being an arse banging on about it being a retrofit. As far as I'm aware it's not a retrofiit as the car was bought like this, but your telling me it is.

So instead of being awkward pointing out things that isn't resolving the issue

your attitude stinks!

I don't have the resources to check these things on etka and the main dealer tells me the module is correct. I can only take this at face value!

I come here asking for help and all your interested in is being an arse banging on about it being a retrofit. As far as I'm aware it's not a retrofiit as the car was bought like this, but your telling me it is.

So instead of being awkward pointing out things that isn't resolving the issue

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This is not meant to be argumentative, nor not help or make you feel stupid.

I will not deviate from my path of the JPPSG, nor known good diagnostic practices I have acquired for 35 years of experience........
Look at it like this ...........it's kind of like when Maverick leaves his wing man, and Goose dies in Top Gun.
Do you really need that life lesson?

Until you recognize that the part numbers are wrong by Jef and me.........we both verified what we thought was the problem for misapplication here...... and substantiated it.

This is a retrofit and should be taken to that section, because it is not a repair.

When you are ready to repair it correctly I'm sure RT or I will try and help you further.

I will not help you, nor do I expect people to help in this section for "REPAIR" to alter a configuration for a retrofit, especially when I know the correct parts are available to repair the vehicle.

Ask yourself why you fail an inspection here & for a vehicle which is being used to provide public services or by your own admission/government.

I'm sorry I just don't see your point here, nor hostility.

All joking around ceased........fix the car correctly as per the etka, dealer verification, parts link like Jef stated, and by the repair manual guidelines at Erwin.

Even guys in retrofits understand the power of crossing stuff by using good information guidelines. this forum section is not a circumvention point for you to bifurcate that process in either section either.

You must realize you are here because you don't know what you are doing right?
When you don't accept the good information guidelines with true intent to help you, time already spent, this is very insulting to the entire forum.

I will not bother you further, and defer you to the great powers at RT.

Have fun.........hope you enjoy your holidays and good luck with your RETROFIT!

golfi_vend said:

Sometime i feel like:

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Can I borrow this? It's me and my boss...

Jack@European_Parts said:

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This is a retrofit and should be taken to that section, because it is not a repair.

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Guess this has to be addressed to Uwe.

It's not an "intentional" retrofit.

The OP claims the car was purchased with that part already installed and he'd like to fix it, which is why I've left it in Repair.

-Uwe-

It's not an "intentional" retrofit.

The OP claims the car was purchased with that part already installed and he'd like to fix it, which is why I've left it in Repair.

-Uwe-

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Understood just checking.......due to liability concerns.
Should intention have to do with repair procedure, when the correct parts are available for the car or when being used for public use to provide a service?
Here DOT regulations are more scrutinized for commercial applications, not so sure about the backward UK........ that's why this place was made.
I'm all for trying something when situations arise where information or compatibility is suppressed by the OEM, & in order to force a customer to the dealer such as ABS long coding.
I also appreciate saving money..........


Okay am onboard now..........after my stupid rant sorry if I sound cautious.......it's because I am........ since I'm not in the UK.
How about the customer code out or swap the instrument cluster possibly or use later gateway?

0x01 is coded for stick....
0x03 No DTC and checks out but wrong part.
0x17 is most likely tampered or maybe just plain faulty from FOD........it does have a DTC.....!
0x53 wrong part.

3C0 920 960 HX INDEX Z02 and I find no listing for the 3C0 cluster which is in the scan, nor in kind auto-scans on the net.
3C0 614 109 A ( 15653 ) FOD> 3C0 614 109 D ( Coding: 0001282 )

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.09.09
Time: 00:00:05

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I would unplug the cluster and the ABS while erasing DTC's in the 0x53 to see if fault will vacate.
Do this to check what is sending a network message, because I don't expect him to have a CAN-analyzer, being he doesn't even have basics to proceed properly.


Vehicle data


Vehicle Identification No.: WVWZZZ3CZ6P210457

PR Number

"Multimedia", video/DVD/notebook connection	9WC	Without "Multimedia" in vehicle
Activated carbon canister	1E0	Without activated charcoal canister
Additional child seat anchors	3B4	Child seat anchor for child seat system ISOFIX
Additional tires (winter tires)	2WA	Without additional tires
Additional warning lights	9TC	Additional reflectors (door area)
Air bag	4UE	Air bag for driver and front seat passenger
Antennas	8ZH	Antenna for AM/FM reception, "diversity"
Anti-theft protection system	7AL	Anti-theft alarm system, passenger compartment control, backup horn and towing protection
Audio-response system/voice control	QH0	Without voice control
Auxiliary heating	9M0	Without auxiliary/parking heater
Backrest release	3H0	Without backrest release for front seats
Base engine	T71	4-cylinder diesel engine 1.9 L unit 03G.1
Batteries	J0N	Battery 330 A (61 Ah)
Body measures	5C0	Without special body measures
Body style	K8B	Notchback
Brackets	3P0	Without bracket for first aid kit and warning triangle
Brake type, front	1LJ	Disc brakes, front
Brake type, rear	1KU	Disc brakes, rear
Braking systems	1AT	Electronic stabilization program (ESP)
Breakaway interior mirror	4L2	Dipping breakaway interior rear view mirror
Bumper	2JC	Comfort bumpers
Carrier frequency for radio remote control	5D1	Carrier frequency 433.92 MHz-434.42 Mhz
Cassette and CD storage unit	4W0	Without cassette and CD storage unit
CD changer/CD player	7A0	Without CD changer/CD player
CD ROM/DVD/SD card	7QA	Without CD/DVD for navigation
Center armrest	6E3	Front center armrest
Center console	3D3	Center console
Center rear seat belts	3C7	3-point seat belt for center rear seat
Child seats	QA0	Without child seat
Climatic zones	0Y1	Standard climatic zones
Compass/traffic sign display	QR0	Ohne Kompass
Component part sets with country-specific design requirements	B0N	Component parts set, complying with vehicle type for Great Britain, various parts
Country codes	FE0	Without country code (no DVD player in vehicle)
Cruise control	8T2	Cruise control system (CCS) electronic
Cruise control warning and speed limit system	6Y9	W/o cruise control speed limit system
Cup holder	4M6	Cup holder
Customized installation	FC0	Without customized installation
Door and lid locking system	4K3	Radio remote controlled central locking operated from inside and safe securing
Door and side trim panels	3LD	Door and side trim panel
Drive layout	1X0	Front wheel drive
Electric interface for external use	UF0	Without electric interface
Electronic map cooling system	QS0	Without electronic map cooling system
Emission standard	0GG	Emission standard EU4
Engine cooling system	8Z5	Not hot country
Engine specifications	D3W	4-cyl. turbo diesel engine 1.9 L/77 kW TDI with pump-jet injection system Base engine is T71/TG0/TD0/T5X
Equipment levels	A8C	Comfort equipment
Exterior mirror setting	6XN	Exterior mirrors: electrically adjustable, separately heated
Exterior noise suppression measures	2B0	Without additional exterior noise suppression
Fire extinguisher	6A0	Without fire extinguisher
First aid kit / warning triangle	1T0	Without first aid kit and warning triangle
Floor mats	0TA	Without floor mats
Front fog light/additional headlight	8WA	Without front fog light
Front license plate bracket	6W1	License plate bracket front (large)
Front seat, left	3TF	Comfort seat, front left
Front seat, right	3SF	Comfort seat, front right
Front underbody guard	1SA	Without additional front underbody guard
Fuel quantity for initial filling	1Z2	Increase in initial standard fuel filling
Fuel systems	0F9	Cooled fuel system for diesel engine
Gearshift knob/handle	6Q2	Leather gearshift knob/handle
General operating permit, alterations	C09	Operating permit, alteration
Generators	8GV	Alternator 180 A
Headlight	8BK	Twin headlight for driving on the left, with integrated high beam
Headlight activation	8K0	Without special headlight activation
Headlight washer system	8X0	Without headlight washer system
Headlight-range adjustment	8Q1	Headlight-range adjustment
Headphone port, rear	8MA	Without headphone port rear
Heat accumulator system/additional heater	7E6	Electric auxiliary air heater
Heated washer nozzles	9T0	Without heated washer nozzles
Heating and air conditioning system	9AP	Climatic air-conditioning system (semi-automatic)
Identification plates	1EX	Spezielles Typschild für EG
Insert for the filling up of unleaded fuel/fuel type	2G0	Without insert for the filling up of fuel
Inserts	5MA	Decorative inserts
Installation differentiation for vehicle components	0EJ	Installation differentiation for transmission MQ 250 vehicle components
Installation parts for engine (engine mount system)	1VG	Installation parts for four-cylinder engine
Instrument inserts	U5B	Instrument insert, mph speedometer Great Britain
Interior light in foot area	6T0	Without interior light in footwell
Left exterior mirror	5SJ	Left exterior mirror: convex
Left vanity mirror	4SL	Vanity mirror, left, illuminated extractable sun visor
Lock operation for tailgate/trunk lid	4E2	Tailgate/trunk lid release from inside (electrically)
Lockable wheel bolts	1PE	Wheel bolts with anti-theft protection (unlockable)
Luggage compartment floor covering	6SE	Flat needle-punched trunk floor covering
Lumbar support	7P8	Electrically adjustable lumbar support for right front seat
Manufacturing sequence differentiation	0FG	Mosel manufacturing sequence
Mass damper for steering wheels	1Q0	Without mass damper for steering wheel
Moldings	4ZB	Bright moldings
Multi-function display/trip computer	9Q1	Multi-function display/on-board computer
Nameplate set	1DG	Nameplate set "TDI"
Navigation device	7Q0	Without navigation device
Operating voltage	9Z0	Operating voltage 12V
Outer rear seat belts	3ZB	3-point seat belts, outer rear with ECE label
Owner's manuals	0VF	Information kit in English
Paint coating	FB0	Standard paint coating
Paint preservative/transit coating	5K0	Ohne Lackkonservierung
Park distance control	7X0	Without park distance control
Parking brake	UH1	Parking brake
Partition	3CA	Without partition
Pedestrian protection	VL1	Erweiterte Fußgängerschutzmaßnahmen
Preparation for sound combination for rotating emergency light	9F0	Without sound combination for rotating emergency light and radio antenna preparation
Preparation for two-way radio installation	9D0	Without preparation for two-way radio installation
Protective side molding	4B4	Protective side molding
Radiator grille	6KA	Radiator grille
Radios	8YL	Radio with CD player
Reading light	8S7	Two reading lights front
Rear cargo area	3GA	Without cargo area
Rear fog light	8TD	Rear fog light for driving on the left
Rear license plate bracket	6P1	License plate bracket rear (ECE)
Rear seats	3NU	Rear seat bench unsplit, backrest split folding with center armrest
Remote-controlled garage door opener	VC0	W/o remote-controlled garage door opener
Restraint systems, front	3QT	3-point seat belts with tensioner and height adjustment, front
Right exterior mirror	5RV	Right exterior mirror: aspherical
Right vanity mirror	4TG	Right vanity mirror illuminated extractable sun visor
Roll-up sun screen for rear and side windows	3Y0	Without roll-up sun screen
Roof insert/convertible top	3FA	Without roof insert (standard roof)
Roof rails/roof load rack	3S0	Without roof rails/roof load rack
Scuff plates	7M0	Plastic scuff plates in door apertures
Seat adjustment	3L3	Manual height adjustment for front seats
Seat belt check	9P1	Seat belt reminder, electric contact in buckle
Seat covering	N0U	Cut pile seat covering
Seat heater	4A0	Without seat heater
Seat ventilation/massage seat	4D0	Without seat ventilation/massage seat
Second battery/battery installation	8FA	Without second battery
Service interval prolongation	QG1	Service interval prolongation
Shock absorption, chassis, front	G07	Front shock absorption
Shock absorption, chassis, rear	1JA	Rear shock absorption, basic design 1
Side air bag	4X3	Side air bag front with curtain air bag
Side and rear windows	4KC	Side and rear windows in heat-insulating glass
Side lights	7R3	Side turn signal lights (white)
Ski bag	3X2	Load-through provision
Smoking/non-smoking package	9JA	Non-smoking package
Socket	7B3	12-volt socket(s)
Spare wheel/breakdown set	1G2	Steel spare wheel with original equipment tires
Speaker installation	8RM	8 speakers (passive)
Special alarm systems	9A0	Without taxi alarm system
Special editions	E0A	No special edition
Special labels/plates	0SS	Labels/plates in English and French
Steering	1N3	Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic)
Steering system arrangement	L0R	Right-hand drive vehicle
Steering wheels	1MH	Leather steering wheel
Taillight assemblies	8SK	Taillight assemblies with diodes (LED)
Telephone/telematics	9W0	W/o car phone preparation/installation
Tie down straps/net/pocket	6M0	Without tie down straps/net/pocket
Tire pressure warning light	7K0	Without tire pressure warning light
Tire suppliers	V0A	Tires w/o specification of tire brand
Tires	HJ7	Tires 215/55 R16 97W x1
Tool kit and jack	1S1	Tool kit and jack
Trailer hitch	1D0	Without trailer hitch
Transit coating	NT0	Transit coating (type 1)
Transmission specifications	G0C	5-speed manual transmission
Transmission types/gearshift mechanisms	0G4	Cable gearshift
Tray areas package	QE2	Storage box
Trunk sill protection	2P1	Plastic trunk sill protection
TV reception/digital radio reception	QV0	W/o TV reception/digital radio reception
Type approval countries/countries with special requirements	B09	Type approval Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Umbrella	NS0	Without umbrella(s)
Vehicle class differentiation units/platform components	0HG	Vehicle class differentiation 3C0
Vehicle specifications	F0A	No special purpose vehicle, standard equipment
Weight category front axle	L02	Suspension range 02 installation control only, no requirement forecast
Weight category rear axle	0YC	Weight range 3 installation control only, no requirement forecast
Wheel covers	1NL	Covers for alloy wheels
Wheels	CN9	Alloy wheels 7J x 16 H2 Offset 45
Window regulator	4R4	Power windows with comfort operation and circuit breaker
Windshield glass type	4GF	Windshield in heat-insulating glass
Windshield wiper intermittent control	8N4	Windshield wiper intermittent control with potentiometer (four speeds)
	PA1	Leather steering wheel (3-spoke)
	PJN	"Catalunya" (right-hand drive) - 4 alloy wheels 7J x 16 - tires 215/55 R 16
	RAC	"RCD 300" 4 x 20 W, 8 loudspeakers
	WD7	Anti-theft alarm system "Plus" -Single door opening and comfort locking-EU right-hand drive vehicle

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FOD ..........give before it hurts...........

You could try some of these controllers if found used.


NostraJackAss Has Spoken!

Tried unplugging instruments and made no difference to the fault code

Unplugged the abs module and stopped all communication to the epb module

Tried unplugging instruments and made no difference to the fault code

Unplugged the abs module and stopped all communication to the epb module

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Okay sir.......
There are a few inputs and links direct from the cluster J285 to the J540 including some shared fuses........better have a look in WD.

Very good that is what should happen when ABS is unplugged, because the ABS has the J540 piggy backed to the ABS via CAN.

Additionally WD revels an important ground point & which maybe missing in your inherited retrofit as detailed below.

Please investigate it.......& the aforementioned cluster in post #27.

Taxi Taxi!................Did you fix it?

Jack@European_Parts said:

Taxi Taxi!................Did you fix it?

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Not yet, went to order the module number you suggested for the parking brake, guy asked for the vin number and tells me that the number you supplied is wrong, the one fitted is correct.

Looking back I see the details you posted has the car as a 2006 production year but the car is a 2008 meaning the part fitted should be correct if it's listed for 2008- vehicles?

Im kind of at a loss and don't want my father in law to just throw money/parts at it in hope it fixes the issue.

Not yet, went to order the module number you suggested for the parking brake, guy asked for the vin number and tells me that the number you supplied is wrong, the one fitted is correct.

Looking back I see the details you posted has the car as a 2006 production year but the car is a 2008 meaning the part fitted should be correct if it's listed for 2008- vehicles?

Im kind of at a loss and don't want my father in law to just throw money/parts at it in hope it fixes the issue.

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Is your vin accurate to the data plate correlated to the scan?

That VIN according to what I see says it's an 06........

Please provide a picture of the data pate and production date tag in door jam.

The instrument cluster isn't even a valid part # and you do realize it's in error right?

Things don't add up here.........

Jack@European_Parts said:

Is your vin accurate to the data plate correlated to the scan?
That VIN according to what I see says it's an 06........
Please provide a picture of the data pate and production date tag in door jam.
The instrument cluster isn't even a valid part # and you do realize it's in error right?
Things don't add up here.........

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Agreed.
WVWZZZ3CZ6P210457

-Uwe-

I'll grab some pictures tomorrow, yeah I realise the instrument panel is showing a fault but not sure if it's related to the problem I'm trying to fix.

I'm pretty confused, I've been into vags for numerous years and can normally solve problems like this easily and quickly but this one has me clueless which is why it has taken me to this forum seeking help

I'll grab some pictures tomorrow, yeah I realise the instrument panel is showing a fault but not sure if it's related to the problem I'm trying to fix.

I'm pretty confused, I've been into vags for numerous years and can normally solve problems like this easily and quickly but this one has me clueless which is why it has taken me to this forum seeking help

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Yeah.......... something tells me you should find a competent dealer if what you aforementioned is true & that knows how to use the ETKA.

Do you realize its the wrong part # and the part # is FOD entirely not in the STAMM?

You should consider the use of parts link and RTFB the Erwin.

You are being fed bad information and it isn't here.

I realize it must be frustrating having to ask for help and thinking you are dealing with people elsewhere you must of at some point trusted.

I accept your prior criticism and new tone as a capitulation to the fact going forward.

Signed the asshole only trying to help you ...........NostraJackAss Has Spoken!

Wvwzzz3cz8e199453

That's the chassis number shown at the windscreen and in the door shut.

So presumably someone's changed the engine ecu causing the auto scan to bring up a completely different chassis number?

Wvwzzz3cz8e199453

That's the chassis number shown at the windscreen and in the door shut.

So presumably someone's changed the engine ecu causing the auto scan to bring up a completely different chassis number?

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This is why JPPSG..........
Wow this car is just full of ripple FOD............ ...........Maybe have some while watching Sanford & Son!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tklXMfE9piY

https://www.google.com/search?q=rip...EwiT6P2Z0uTQAhUP5GMKHSZkDQ8Q_AUIBygC&dpr=0.95

This still doesn't change the fact that the cluster is way wrong and in error........

RTFB WD and check the tracks I aforementioned 0x17 to 0x53 + try unplugging engine ecu and cluster to see if fault goes bye bye in 0x53.

Adzer said:

Wvwzzz3cz8e199453

That's the chassis number shown at the windscreen and in the door shut.

So presumably someone's changed the engine ecu causing the auto scan to bring up a completely different chassis number?

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It's never just the ECU that has the VIN...

In any case, discrepancies like this should be noted from the get-go, otherwise people try to help you on the basis that the car is what the VIN shown in the scan claims it is and should have components installed that are suitable for that VIN!

-Uwe-

Uwe said:

It's never just the ECU that has the VIN...

In any case, discrepancies like this should be noted from the get-go, otherwise people try to help you on the basis that the car is what the VIN shown in the scan claims it is and should have components installed that are suitable for that VIN!

-Uwe-

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I didn't realise the Vin was wrong in the scan, I thought the car was a 2006 model but wasn't till my father in law told me it was a 2008 the penny dropped