2005 Jetta Key Programing

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VCDS Version: Release 14.10.2
Data version: 20150311
www.Ross-Tech.com

Saturday,25,April,2015,17:22:23:03310

Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
VIN: WVWSR61J25W054641   Mileage: 328180km-203921miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
   Part No SW: 038 906 016 Q    HW: 028 101 181 2
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  6110  
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D0988051
   Coding: 0150031
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 22083D04FCC31F3158B-5184

2 Faults Found:
19463 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) 
            P3007 - 000 - No Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2100 /min
                    Torque: 116.0 Nm
                    Speed: 96.0 km/h
                    Load: 44.7 %
                    Voltage: 14.44 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101000
                    Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
                    (no units): 48.0

17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 
            P1570 - 000 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 68.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 11.40 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101100
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    (no units): 0.0

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
   Coding: 0019458
   Shop #: WSC 01266 785 00200
   VCID: 3424CB5C56378181BA7-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
   Component: 17 AIRBAG VW61 0108 0003  
   Coding: 12599
   Shop #: WSC 01266  
   VCID: 271E2C10C7E1FA190F5-5160

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J5 920 906 Q
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V03  
   Coding: 15232
   Shop #: WSC 00050  
   VCID: 3B36E0602B694EF97BD-5160
   WVWSR61J25W054641     VWZ7Z0D0988051

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 01266  
   VCID: 70AC074C32AFFDA19EF-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 8A Komfortgerát HLO 0004  
   Coding: 00258
   Shop #: WSC 01266  
   VCID: 373EFC5017416A999F5-4B3C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: 8A Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: 8A Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: 8A Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0202  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: 8A Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0202  

1 Fault Found:
01141 - Luggage Compartment Unlocking Switch (E165) 
            27-00 - Implausible Signal

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 3B7 035 180 G
   Component:    Radio PM6        0016  
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 01266  
   VCID: 24043B1CB6D711012A7-5160

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 07:53)--------------------------

I am trying to program a new key from Volkswagen to my 05 Jetta, but when I try to login to the 25-Immobilizer with my SKC, I am told login code not accepted, but I am able to login to 17-Instruments with the same SKC.

Can I program the key in 17-Instruments?

Or what am I doing wrong?
 
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I figured out how to program the through 17, but I am still curious why I can not login to 25.

Also, is it possible to program the key via the mobile version?
 
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WheelerKB said:
I am still curious why I can not login to 25.
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Because some guys in white lab coats in Germany decided it should be so. Seriously, that's just the way cars of that generation work.

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Also, is it possible to program the key via the mobile version?
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In principle, if you have the PIN code for the car and a could connection for VCDS-Mobile, it should be doable.

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Uwe said:
Because some guys in white lab coats in Germany decided it should be so. Seriously, that's just the way cars of that generation work.
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Ok, so it is probably not that I am doing anything wrong, its just "life" lol

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In principle, if you have the PIN code for the car and a could connection for VCDS-Mobile, it should be doable.
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I just don't see where/ know how to use the HEX-NET with a mobile device to perform the key adaptation. Also, I can not get HEX-NET to connect to 46-Central Conv. to adapt a key fob to this vehicle. According to http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/vwmkIV.html#46 I should be able to connect. (it has power windows)
 
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WheelerKB said:
I just don't see where/ know how to use the HEX-NET with a mobile device to perform the key adaptation.
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Basically the same as you would do it with the classic version of VCDS. The primary difference is that after connecting to the Instrument you will need to hit [Functions] and then [Cloud Functions] buttons before you can do the Adaptation.

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Also, I can not get HEX-NET to connect to 46-Central Conv. to adapt a key fob to this vehicle. According to http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/vwmkIV.html#46 I should be able to connect. (it has power windows)
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Since VCDS connects just fine using the HEX-NET (as evidenced by the scan in the first post of this thread), I would expect VCDS-Mobile to connect as well. Maybe do an Auto-Scan with VCDS-Mobile as well and post the results?

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I am not sure how to connect to the cloud function. I have looked for instructions and requirements on connecting to the cloud, but everything I have found has been very vague. So, I'm thinking that I must just not be looking in the right place.

Can you guide me to the right place?

I should be able to get to the Mobile Auto-Scan this evening.
 
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WheelerKB said:
I figured out how to program the through 17, but I am still curious why I can not login to 25.

Also, is it possible to program the key via the mobile version?
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Do you see anywhere in your Autoscan address -25?
That is your very simple answer.
 
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It actually does answer on 25 if you go there directly, but its answer is "BITTE ADRESSE 17 EINGEBEN".

That's German for "Please use other door". :D

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VCDS Mobile 0.4123.0.4

Chassis Type:1J or 9M
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
	 76




-----------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine	Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
	Part No SW: 038 906 016 Q	HW: 0281011812
	Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG   6110
	Revision: 12345678	Serial Number: VWZ7Z0D0988051
	Coding: 0150031
	Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
	VCID: 2207798BBF80E040584762-5184

1 Fault Found:
19463 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)
	P3007 - 000 - No Signal - Intermittent


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Address 03: ABS Brakes	Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
	Part No SW: 1C0 907 379 M	
	Component: ESP FRONT MK60       0102
	Coding: 0019458
	Shop #: WSC 05459 144 1051744
	VCID: 342B8FD315747EF0BA1B24-5184

No fault codes found.

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Address 15: Airbags	Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
	Part No SW: 1C0 909 605 F	
	Component: 17 AIRBAG VW61 0108 0003
	Coding: 12599
	Shop #: WSC 01266 000
	VCID: 2711689FD4A215680F99AB-5160

No fault codes found.

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Address 17: Instruments	Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
	Part No SW: 1J5 920 906 Q	
	Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V03
	Coding: 15232
	Shop #: WSC 00050 000
	VCID: 3B39A4EF382AA1887B4197-5160

	Subsystem 1 - 	Part No SW: WVW-SR6-1J2-5W0
	Component: 54641     VWZ7Z0D0988051

No fault codes found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway	Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
	Part No SW: 6N0 909 901	
	Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001
	Coding: 00006
	Shop #: WSC 01266 000
	VCID: F0A3C3C3A1EC92D01E7348-5160

No fault codes found.

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Address 56: Radio	Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
	Part No SW: 3B7 035 180 G	
	Component:    Radio PM6        0016
	Coding: 00031
	Shop #: WSC 01266 000
	VCID: 240B7F93A594FE702A7B94-5160

No fault codes found.

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Here is the mobile scan.
 
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I found the details about connecting to Wi-Fi.. http://www.ross-tech.com/hex-net/faq_6.html

I had some trouble setting the security key, but I think was doing something wrong because it did not appear to ever store the key for the Wi-Fi network. I will have to try again this evening.
 
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WheelerKB said:
Here is the mobile scan.
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Indeed, 46 is conspicuously absent from that scan.

I will note that the CCMs in Mk.4 cars are know to get in a mode where they refuse to talk to anything. Can you double check with regular VCDS to see if you can still get a session with it? Just access it directly: [Select] -> [46-Central Conv.]

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I can not get VCDS to connect to 46 using the usb cord on my regular computer. I keep getting "No Response from Controller" but I can connect to several others 01, 03, 15... and so on.

Is there "another door" I can use to program a key fob?
 
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46 is a module that's never really powered down and never really goes to sleep (it's always listening for the remotes).

Try rebooting your 46. You can do this in one of three ways:

  • Disconnect the car's battery
  • Pull the relevant fuse(s)
  • Disconnect the 46 module from the car's harness

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I tried to connect to 46 directly on another Jetta I have, and I was not able to connect to it either. Here it's the scan from it, notice it connect during the auto scan.

Code: 
   VCDS Mobile 0.4123.0.4

Chassis Type:1J or 9M
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
	 76




-----------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine	Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
	Part No SW: 06A 906 032 HF	
	Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0004
	Coding: 07550
	Shop #: WSC 00066 000
	VCID: 69952EA70236E318D90D9D-5184

	Subsystem 1 - 	Part No SW: 3VW-SE6-9M7-2M0
	Component: 25669    VWZ7Z0A3848739

3 Faults Found:
16395 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake)
	P0011 - 35-00 - Retard Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)

17748 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
	P1340 - 35-00 - Incor. Correlation

16804 - Catalyst System; Bank 1
	P0420 - 35-00 - Efficiency Below Threshold


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Address 02: Auto Trans	Labels: 09A-927-750.lbl
	Part No SW: 09A 927 750 T	
	Component: AG5 Getriebe 09A   0162 
	Shop #: WSC 00000 000
	VCID: 3C3BA7F33D24A6B0724B8C-5184

2 Faults Found:
00526 - Brake Light Switch-F
	28-10 - Short to Plus - Intermittent

01045 - Tiptronic Switch (F189)
	27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent


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Address 03: ABS Brakes	Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ASR.lbl
	Part No SW: 1C0 907 379 D	
	Component: ASR FRONT MK60       0103
	Coding: 0018945
	Shop #: WSC 04947 144 1051744
	VCID: 2B1994AFC84A2108EBA1C7-5184

No fault codes found.

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Address 15: Airbags	Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
	Part No SW: 6Q0 909 605	
	Component: 04 AIRBAG VW6  0202 0004
	Coding: 12340
	Shop #: WSC 00066 000
	VCID: F4ABCFD3D5F4AEF0FA9B64-5160

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
	07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent


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Address 16: Steering wheel	Labels: 1J0-907-487.lbl
	Part No SW: 1J0 907 487 B	
	Component: Lenkradelektronik   0002
	Coding: 00008
	Shop #: WSC 00066 000
	VCID: 302383C3E16C52D0DEF308-5260

No fault codes found.

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Address 17: Instruments	Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
	Part No SW: 1J0 920 906 N	
	Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V58
	Coding: 07234
	Shop #: WSC 00050 000
	VCID: 33298CCF107A69C8A3112F-5160

	Subsystem 1 - 	Part No SW: 3VW-SE6-9M7-2M0
	Component: 25669     VWZ7Z0A3848739

3 Faults Found:
01336 - Data Bus for Comfort System
	37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

01336 - Data Bus for Comfort System
	49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
	49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent


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Address 19: CAN Gateway	Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
	Part No SW: 6N0 909 901	
	Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001
	Coding: 00006
	Shop #: WSC 00066 000
	VCID: F0A3C3C3A1EC92D01E7348-5160

6 Faults Found:
01336 - Data Bus for Comfort System
	37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

01336 - Data Bus for Comfort System
	49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
	49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
	49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
	49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
	49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent


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Address 46: Central Conv.	Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
	Part No SW: 1C0 959 799 C	
	Component: 1H Komfortgerät HLO 0003
	Coding: 00258
	Shop #: WSC 00066 000
	VCID: 3731B8DF040285E89F397B-4B3C

	Subsystem 1 - 	Part No SW: 1C1-959-801-A
	Component: 1H Türsteuer.FS KLO 0002

1 Fault Found:
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148)
	62-10 - No or Incorrect Adjustment - Intermittent


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Address 56: Radio	Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
	Part No SW: 1JM 035 157 A	
	Component:  Radio DE2         0004
	Coding: 02041
	Shop #: WSC 00066 000
	VCID: 3E3FADFB2B38B4A05C7FB6-51F2

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna
	36-00 - Open Circuit


I will try disconnecting the battery later today on the 2005 Jetta and post my results.
 
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I tried to connect to 46 directly on another Jetta I have, and I was not able to connect to it either. Here it's the scan from it, notice it connect during the auto scan.
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I will try disconnecting the battery later today on the 2005 Jetta and post my results.
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It really does happen. It happened on my Passat, with a similar CCM. It just stopped communicating at all, for no particular reason, between one scan and the next. A power cycle restored it.

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Success! Disconnected the battery for a while and that took care of not being able to communicate to 46. I have programmed the new key and key fob to this car.

Now, I have to address another problem I am having with Infrastructure mode. I can not get hex net to save the Wi-Fi key. The only way I can connect to the cloud is to make my Wi-Fi unprotected. But I will start a new thread for that topic.

Thank you for your help!
 
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