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    Question Audi S3 8L (2002) - Internal Control Module Memory Error.

    Hi All,

    Brief story: Iím in the process of upgrading my stereo to an aftermarket one. I have ended up removing all interior accept the dashboard; laid down some RCA cables from the front to the rear and have put everything back together. No standard Audi wires were cut, and all connectors are connected.

    Having not driven the car for a while, ABS, ESP and Red Brake symbol appeared with three audio beeps when engine was started. Iíve replaced the old battery with a new one and all faults were cleared. However, I keep getting the following faults appearing which I'm unable to resolve Ė the faults in question are Engine, ABS Brakes and AWD.

    Can anyone shed some light, on how to resolved this please?


    Code:
    Sunday,04,November,2018,12:46:01:06092
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)
    Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8L931204596   License Plate: GK52KZZ
    Mileage: 141359   Repair Order: 
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8L (8L - Audi A3/S3 (1997 > 2005))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 22 35 37 45 55 56 57 75 76
     
    VIN: WAUZZZ8L931204596   
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BAM.lbl
       Part No: 8N0 906 018 BH
       Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0001  
       Coding: 10710
       Shop #: WSC 02629  
       VCID: 78FFC92B58C4878AED-5140
       WAUZZZ8L931204596     AUZ7Z0B2120938
    
    1 Fault Found:
    18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                P1649 - 35-10 - Missing Message from ABS Controller - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0000 0001
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8N0-907-379-MK20-E.clb
       Part No: 8N0 907 379 E
       Component: ESP     20    CAN  V005   
       Coding: 18448
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 3E731F333A6079BAE7-4B04
    
    2 Faults Found:
    65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error 
                00-00 -  - 
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No: 8L0 820 043 L
       Component: A3  KLIMAAUTOMAT   0105  
       Coding: 00041
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 3169340FFB3E96C26A-2582
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8L0-959-655-AI8.lbl
       Part No: 8L0 959 655 L
       Component: Airbag Front+Seite 7008  
       Coding: 01104
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 479D7AD765BA387254-5140
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8L0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 8L0 920 980 R
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D10  
       Coding: 01444
       Shop #: WSC 00285  
       VCID: 428B6BC34E981D5A83-5140
       WAUZZZ8L931204596     AUZ7Z0B2120938
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD        Labels: 02D-900-554.lbl
       Part No: 02D 900 554 C
       Component: HALDEX LSC  ECC     0010  
       VCID: 204FC14BA0D42F4AF5-4B04
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01316 - ABS Control Module 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 8D0-862-257.lbl
       Part No: 8D0 862 257 E
       Component: CV-Pump, Alarm, RC  D17  
       Coding: 15214
       Shop #: WSC 00151  
       VCID: 2F6D3277ED0A80327C-4F3E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
       Part No: 4B0 951 173 
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
       Coding: 00001
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 60CF814BE0546F4AB5-4B36
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01377 - Ultra Sonic Sensor for Alarm System; Left (G170) 
                31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    01378 - Ultra Sonic Sensor for Alarm System; Right (G171) 
                31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4B0-907-357-AUT.lbl
       Part No: 4B0 907 357 
       Component: LEUCHTWEITEREGLER  D004  
       Coding: 00014
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 65C1905FFF760A6246-515C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4B0-919-283.lbl
       Part No: 4B0 919 283 
       Component: Parkingsystem A3 RDW D18  
       Coding: 00103
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 66C397530270017A4F-51D4
    
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error occurred
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:05)--------------------------

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    Hello,

    I believe you fall into category #2: https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...o-get-Verified

    If you purchased that HEX-USB+CAN directly from a distributor (rather than 2nd hand) please fill out this form including "Please check my forum status" in the 'Notes or Special Instructions' field of the form. After doing so we can flip you status to Verified and move this to the Car Repair Support section.

    Next, it is possible the 03-ABS module is failing but I'd re-check the battery connections, connections at the Golf Mk4 style fuse panel on top of the battery and inspect the wiring near the ABS module itself to rule out a flaky connection or rodent damage (wire chewing) that may explain a voltage drop causing 65535.

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    Hi Dana,

    I've now registered and waiting confirmation from ross-tech.com.

    The fuse panel on top of the battery is fine, as well as the terminals, clean and free from corrosion. Also, the ABS module cable has not been tampered with, but I will check again.

    There does not seem to be much information regarding fault 65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error and how to resolve it. I really hope my ABS module is not on the verge of dying!

    Thanks.

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    OP is now Verified. Moving to Car Repair Support.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    If it's any help, here's the original scan before the battery was replaced. Please ignore faults with Airbags, Instruments, Centr. Locks, Inter. Monitor as these were relating to me removing the interior headlining.


    Code:
    Sunday,21,October,2018,15:51:55:06092
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.2.1.5 (x64)
    Data version: 20180518 DS287.2
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8L931204596   License Plate: GK52KZZ
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8L (8L - Audi A3/S3 (1997 > 2005))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 22 35 37 45 55 56 57 75 76
     
    VIN: WAUZZZ8L931204596   
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BAM.lbl
       Part No: 8N0 906 018 BH
       Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0001  
       Coding: 10710
       Shop #: WSC 02629  
       VCID: 78FFC92B58C487841C-5140
       WAUZZZ8L931204596     AUZ7Z0B2120938
    
    2 Faults Found:
    18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                P1649 - 35-10 - Missing Message from ABS Controller - Intermittent
    18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30 
                P1602 - 35-00 - Voltage too Low
    Readiness: 0000 0001
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8N0-907-379-MK20-E.clb
       Part No: 8N0 907 379 E
       Component: ESP     20    CAN  V005   
       Coding: 18448
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 3E731F333A6079B416-4B04
    
    8 Faults Found:
    65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error 
                00-00 -  - 
    01276 - ABS Hydraulic Pump (V64) 
                16-10 - Signal Outside Specifications - Intermittent
    01130 - ABS Operation 
                27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    00538 - Reference Voltage 
                57-10 - Electric Circuit Failure - Intermittent
    00814 - Solenoid for Brake Pressure (N247) 
                35-10 -  -  - Intermittent
    00812 - Brake Pressure Release Solenoid (F84) 
                35-10 -  -  - Intermittent
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No: 8L0 820 043 L
       Component: A3  KLIMAAUTOMAT   0105  
       Coding: 00041
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 3169340FFB3E96CC9B-2582
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8L0-959-655-AI8.lbl
       Part No: 8L0 959 655 L
       Component: Airbag Front+Seite 7008  
       Coding: 01104
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 479D7AD765BA387CA5-5122
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01578 - Airbag Deactivation Warning Lamp; Passenger Side (K145) 
                31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
    01228 - Airbag Cut-Off Switch for Passenger Side (E224) 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8L0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 8L0 920 980 R
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D10  
       Coding: 01444
       Shop #: WSC 00285  
       VCID: 428B6BC34E981D5472-5140
       WAUZZZ8L931204596     AUZ7Z0B2120938
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD        Labels: 02D-900-554.lbl
       Part No: 02D 900 554 C
       Component: HALDEX LSC  ECC     0010  
       VCID: 204FC14BA0D42F4404-4B1C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01316 - ABS Control Module 
                49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 8D0-862-257.lbl
       Part No: 8D0 862 257 E
       Component: CV-Pump, Alarm, RC  D17  
       Coding: 15214
       Shop #: WSC 00151  
       VCID: 2F6D3277ED0A803C8D-4F22
    
    3 Faults Found:
    01374 - Alarm triggered by Terminal 15 
                35-00 -  - 
    01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring 
                35-00 -  - 
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
       Part No: 4B0 951 173 
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
       Coding: 00001
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 60CF814BE0546F4444-4B36
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01377 - Ultra Sonic Sensor for Alarm System; Left (G170) 
                31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
    01378 - Ultra Sonic Sensor for Alarm System; Right (G171) 
                31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4B0-907-357-AUT.lbl
       Part No: 4B0 907 357 
       Component: LEUCHTWEITEREGLER  D004  
       Coding: 00014
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 65C1905FFF760A6CB7-517A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4B0-919-283.lbl
       Part No: 4B0 919 283 
       Component: Parkingsystem A3 RDW D18  
       Coding: 00103
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 66C3975302700174BE-51D4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:55)--------------------------

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    Please excuse me for jumping on the end of this thread, - especially as my first post.

    As the thread has been dead for nearly a year, i thought it might be ok.

    Did you find the cause of this issue with the car?
    I`ve been having the same issue intermittently - most notably when the car has been sat over night or for a few hours. Having driven the car for about 1/2 hour, the ABS light goes out and all appears normal.

    Ive replaced all fuses associated with the ABS, replaced the battery as this was suspect and cleaned up the earth points under the battery and the one on the scuttle in front of the ECU.

    Im beginning to think there`s a wiring issue in the loom feeding the module, (a lot of responses to 63353 fault code suggest this) especially as my rear washer jet pipe has been leaking.

    Did you find the problem in the end?

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    Please excuse me for jumping on the end of this thread, - especially as my first post.

    As the thread has been dead for nearly a year, i thought it might be ok.

    Did you find the cause of this issue with the car?
    I`ve been having the same issue intermittently - most notably when the car has been sat over night or for a few hours. Having driven the car for about 1/2 hour, the ABS light goes out and all appears normal.

    Ive replaced all fuses associated with the ABS, replaced the battery as this was suspect and cleaned up the earth points under the battery and the one on the scuttle in front of the ECU.

    Im beginning to think there`s a wiring issue in the loom feeding the module, (a lot of responses to 63353 fault code suggest this) especially as my rear washer jet pipe has been leaking.

    Did you find the problem in the end?







    Welcome to the VCDS forum.........

    Isn't this most likely a faulty terminal 15 reset & either from back feed, relay related, poor ground or ignition switch?

    Please JPPSG & post an auto scan ..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Welcome to the VCDS forum.........

    Isn't this most likely a faulty terminal 15 reset & either from back feed, relay related, poor ground or ignition switch?

    Please JPPSG & post an auto scan ..........

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    Thank you for your reply. I didnt realise i had had a response to this until yesterday evening.

    I`ll post a scan later today when im back on my laptop.


    Having done some inspection on the wiring loom this weekend, I have got solid 12v + on both permanent power feeds and good grounds too to the area under the battery.

    Ive looked at the wiring diagram and believe PIN 4 is the ignition feed into the plug. I`ll check this later today and report back along with the code scan.

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    Today I have had the day off to try and get to the bottom of this issue,or at least a process of elimination

    Here is a fresh scan from today after clearing old DTCS

    Code:
     VIN: WAUZZZ8L831202175   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8L (8L - Audi A3/S3 (1997 > 2005))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 22 35 37 45 55 56 57 75 76
     
    VIN: WAUZZZ8L831202175   
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BAM.lbl
       Part No: 8N0 906 018 BH
       Component: 1.8L R4/5VT         0001  
       Coding: 10710
       Shop #: WSC 33278  
       VCID: 78A9E9F99BC1D077F29-5160
       WAUZZZ8L831202175     AUZ7Z0B2114192
    
    1 Fault Found:
    18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                P1649 - 35-00 - Missing Message from ABS Controller
    Readiness: 0110 0100
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8N0-907-379-MK20-E.clb
       Part No: 8N0 907 379 E
       Component: ESP     20    CAN  V005   
       Coding: 18448
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 3E253FE1F9652E47F85-4B1E
    
    4 Faults Found:
    65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error 
                00-00 - -
    00813 - Sensor 2 for Brake Pressure (G214) 
                57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                49-00 - No Communications
    01276 - ABS Hydraulic Pump (V64) 
                16-10 - Signal Outside Specifications - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No: 8L0 820 043 K
       Component: A3  KLIMAAUTOMAT   0105  
       Coding: 00041
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 303911D93331C8377A9-2596
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8L0-959-655-AI8.lbl
       Part No: 8L0 959 655 L
       Component: Airbag Front+Seite 7008  
       Coding: 01104
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 47CB5A05A6BF6F8F4B3-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8L0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 8L0 920 980 R
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D10  
       Coding: 01444
       Shop #: WSC 00001  
       VCID: 42DD4B118D9D4AA79CD-5160
       WAUZZZ8L831202175     AUZ7Z0B2114192
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD        Labels: 02D-900-554.lbl
       Part No: 02D 900 554 C
       Component: HALDEX LSC  ECC     0010  
       VCID: 2019E19963D178B7EA9-4B1E
    
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error occurred
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 8D0-862-257.clb
       Part No: 8D0 862 257 E
       Component: CV-Pump, Alarm, RC  D17  
       Coding: 15211
       Shop #: WSC 27925  
       VCID: 2F3B12A52E0FD7CF633-4F2E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
       Part No: 4B0 951 173 
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
       Coding: 00001
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 6099A199235138B7AA9-4AA4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4B0-907-357-AUT.lbl
       Part No: 4B0 907 357 
       Component: LEUCHTWEITEREGLER  D004  
       Coding: 00014
       Shop #: WSC 01236  
       VCID: 6597B08D3C735D9F59F-5184
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No: 8L0 035 195 H
       Component: symphony II NP2    0151   
       Coding: 00201
       Shop #: WSC 24929  
       VCID: 33331ED5C227F32F07B-4E62
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 03:17, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.2V)-----------

    So far i have:

    Replaced all fuses- 2x 30amp on top of the battery and the 5amp interior fuse

    I have checked and have 2 good 12v+ permanent power feeds
    I have good earth points having cleaned up both the stud and the terminal ends
    I found my Haldex earth strap like so many had come apart so i have replaced this today

    Where im slightly confused is that i have 2 12v+ terminal 15 feeds with the ignition on. Both of these drop with either the ignition off or with the interior fuse removed.

    The only wiring diagram i could find that related to the car (A3 8L was as close as i could find) was one with a 25 Pin J104 module plug. Mine appears to have 44 pins, so i`m not 100% sure i should have two ignition feeds?

    Any ideas. Im now wondering if it is an internal module issue.
    Last edited by Uwe; 09-18-2019 at 09:51 AM. Reason: Fixed CODE tags

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonS38l View Post
    The only wiring diagram i could find that related to the car (A3 8L was as close as i could find)
    Sounds like you need to create an account on the EU Audi erWin website, buy 1 hour access and download all the documents for your car (enter the VIN to get the correct ones) which will include the wiring diagrams.

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