Audi S3 8L (2002) - Internal Control Module Memory Error.

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Hi All,

Brief story: I’m in the process of upgrading my stereo to an aftermarket one. I have ended up removing all interior accept the dashboard; laid down some RCA cables from the front to the rear and have put everything back together. No standard Audi wires were cut, and all connectors are connected.

Having not driven the car for a while, ABS, ESP and Red Brake symbol appeared with three audio beeps when engine was started. I’ve replaced the old battery with a new one and all faults were cleared. However, I keep getting the following faults appearing which I'm unable to resolve – the faults in question are Engine, ABS Brakes and AWD.

Can anyone shed some light, on how to resolved this please?


Code:
Sunday,04,November,2018,12:46:01:06092
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
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VIN: WAUZZZ8L931204596   License Plate: GK52KZZ
Mileage: 141359   Repair Order: 


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Chassis Type: 8L (8L - Audi A3/S3 (1997 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 22 35 37 45 55 56 57 75 76
 
VIN: WAUZZZ8L931204596   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BAM.lbl
   Part No: 8N0 906 018 BH
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0001  
   Coding: 10710
   Shop #: WSC 02629  
   VCID: 78FFC92B58C4878AED-5140
   WAUZZZ8L931204596     AUZ7Z0B2120938

1 Fault Found:
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1649 - 35-10 - Missing Message from ABS Controller - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0001

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8N0-907-379-MK20-E.clb
   Part No: 8N0 907 379 E
   Component: ESP     20    CAN  V005   
   Coding: 18448
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 3E731F333A6079BAE7-4B04

2 Faults Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error 
            00-00 -  - 
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 8L0 820 043 L
   Component: A3  KLIMAAUTOMAT   0105  
   Coding: 00041
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 3169340FFB3E96C26A-2582

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8L0-959-655-AI8.lbl
   Part No: 8L0 959 655 L
   Component: Airbag Front+Seite 7008  
   Coding: 01104
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 479D7AD765BA387254-5140

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8L0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 8L0 920 980 R
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D10  
   Coding: 01444
   Shop #: WSC 00285  
   VCID: 428B6BC34E981D5A83-5140
   WAUZZZ8L931204596     AUZ7Z0B2120938

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 02D-900-554.lbl
   Part No: 02D 900 554 C
   Component: HALDEX LSC  ECC     0010  
   VCID: 204FC14BA0D42F4AF5-4B04

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 8D0-862-257.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 862 257 E
   Component: CV-Pump, Alarm, RC  D17  
   Coding: 15214
   Shop #: WSC 00151  
   VCID: 2F6D3277ED0A80327C-4F3E

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 173 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 60CF814BE0546F4AB5-4B36

2 Faults Found:
01377 - Ultra Sonic Sensor for Alarm System; Left (G170) 
            31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
01378 - Ultra Sonic Sensor for Alarm System; Right (G171) 
            31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4B0-907-357-AUT.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 907 357 
   Component: LEUCHTWEITEREGLER  D004  
   Coding: 00014
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 65C1905FFF760A6246-515C

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4B0-919-283.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 919 283 
   Component: Parkingsystem A3 RDW D18  
   Coding: 00103
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 66C397530270017A4F-51D4

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:05)--------------------------
 
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Hello,

I believe you fall into category #2: https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?2601-How-to-get-Verified

If you purchased that HEX-USB+CAN directly from a distributor (rather than 2nd hand) please fill out this form including "Please check my forum status" in the 'Notes or Special Instructions' field of the form. After doing so we can flip you status to Verified and move this to the Car Repair Support section.

Next, it is possible the 03-ABS module is failing but I'd re-check the battery connections, connections at the Golf Mk4 style fuse panel on top of the battery and inspect the wiring near the ABS module itself to rule out a flaky connection or rodent damage (wire chewing) that may explain a voltage drop causing 65535.
 
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Hi Dana,

I've now registered and waiting confirmation from ross-tech.com.

The fuse panel on top of the battery is fine, as well as the terminals, clean and free from corrosion. Also, the ABS module cable has not been tampered with, but I will check again.

There does not seem to be much information regarding fault 65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error and how to resolve it. I really hope my ABS module is not on the verge of dying!

Thanks.
 
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OP is now Verified. Moving to Car Repair Support.

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If it's any help, here's the original scan before the battery was replaced. Please ignore faults with Airbags, Instruments, Centr. Locks, Inter. Monitor as these were relating to me removing the interior headlining.


Code:
Sunday,21,October,2018,15:51:55:06092
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.5 (x64)
Data version: 20180518 DS287.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8L931204596   License Plate: GK52KZZ


Chassis Type: 8L (8L - Audi A3/S3 (1997 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 22 35 37 45 55 56 57 75 76
 
VIN: WAUZZZ8L931204596   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BAM.lbl
   Part No: 8N0 906 018 BH
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0001  
   Coding: 10710
   Shop #: WSC 02629  
   VCID: 78FFC92B58C487841C-5140
   WAUZZZ8L931204596     AUZ7Z0B2120938

2 Faults Found:
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1649 - 35-10 - Missing Message from ABS Controller - Intermittent
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30 
            P1602 - 35-00 - Voltage too Low
Readiness: 0000 0001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8N0-907-379-MK20-E.clb
   Part No: 8N0 907 379 E
   Component: ESP     20    CAN  V005   
   Coding: 18448
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 3E731F333A6079B416-4B04

8 Faults Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error 
            00-00 -  - 
01276 - ABS Hydraulic Pump (V64) 
            16-10 - Signal Outside Specifications - Intermittent
01130 - ABS Operation 
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00538 - Reference Voltage 
            57-10 - Electric Circuit Failure - Intermittent
00814 - Solenoid for Brake Pressure (N247) 
            35-10 -  -  - Intermittent
00812 - Brake Pressure Release Solenoid (F84) 
            35-10 -  -  - Intermittent
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 8L0 820 043 L
   Component: A3  KLIMAAUTOMAT   0105  
   Coding: 00041
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 3169340FFB3E96CC9B-2582

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8L0-959-655-AI8.lbl
   Part No: 8L0 959 655 L
   Component: Airbag Front+Seite 7008  
   Coding: 01104
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 479D7AD765BA387CA5-5122

2 Faults Found:
01578 - Airbag Deactivation Warning Lamp; Passenger Side (K145) 
            31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
01228 - Airbag Cut-Off Switch for Passenger Side (E224) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8L0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 8L0 920 980 R
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D10  
   Coding: 01444
   Shop #: WSC 00285  
   VCID: 428B6BC34E981D5472-5140
   WAUZZZ8L931204596     AUZ7Z0B2120938

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 22: AWD        Labels: 02D-900-554.lbl
   Part No: 02D 900 554 C
   Component: HALDEX LSC  ECC     0010  
   VCID: 204FC14BA0D42F4404-4B1C

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 8D0-862-257.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 862 257 E
   Component: CV-Pump, Alarm, RC  D17  
   Coding: 15214
   Shop #: WSC 00151  
   VCID: 2F6D3277ED0A803C8D-4F22

3 Faults Found:
01374 - Alarm triggered by Terminal 15 
            35-00 -  - 
01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring 
            35-00 -  - 
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            49-00 - No Communications

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 173 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 60CF814BE0546F4444-4B36

2 Faults Found:
01377 - Ultra Sonic Sensor for Alarm System; Left (G170) 
            31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
01378 - Ultra Sonic Sensor for Alarm System; Right (G171) 
            31-00 - Open or Short to Ground

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4B0-907-357-AUT.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 907 357 
   Component: LEUCHTWEITEREGLER  D004  
   Coding: 00014
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 65C1905FFF760A6CB7-517A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4B0-919-283.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 919 283 
   Component: Parkingsystem A3 RDW D18  
   Coding: 00103
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 66C3975302700174BE-51D4

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:55)--------------------------
 
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Please excuse me for jumping on the end of this thread, - especially as my first post.

As the thread has been dead for nearly a year, i thought it might be ok.

Did you find the cause of this issue with the car?
I`ve been having the same issue intermittently - most notably when the car has been sat over night or for a few hours. Having driven the car for about 1/2 hour, the ABS light goes out and all appears normal.

Ive replaced all fuses associated with the ABS, replaced the battery as this was suspect and cleaned up the earth points under the battery and the one on the scuttle in front of the ECU.

Im beginning to think there`s a wiring issue in the loom feeding the module, (a lot of responses to 63353 fault code suggest this) especially as my rear washer jet pipe has been leaking.

Did you find the problem in the end?
 
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Please excuse me for jumping on the end of this thread, - especially as my first post.

As the thread has been dead for nearly a year, i thought it might be ok.

Did you find the cause of this issue with the car?
I`ve been having the same issue intermittently - most notably when the car has been sat over night or for a few hours. Having driven the car for about 1/2 hour, the ABS light goes out and all appears normal.

Ive replaced all fuses associated with the ABS, replaced the battery as this was suspect and cleaned up the earth points under the battery and the one on the scuttle in front of the ECU.

Im beginning to think there`s a wiring issue in the loom feeding the module, (a lot of responses to 63353 fault code suggest this) especially as my rear washer jet pipe has been leaking.

Did you find the problem in the end?







Welcome to the VCDS forum.........

Isn't this most likely a faulty terminal 15 reset & either from back feed, relay related, poor ground or ignition switch?

Please JPPSG & post an auto scan ..........

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot
 
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Welcome to the VCDS forum.........

Isn't this most likely a faulty terminal 15 reset & either from back feed, relay related, poor ground or ignition switch?

Please JPPSG & post an auto scan ..........

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot
Thank you for your reply. I didnt realise i had had a response to this until yesterday evening.

I`ll post a scan later today when im back on my laptop.


Having done some inspection on the wiring loom this weekend, I have got solid 12v + on both permanent power feeds and good grounds too to the area under the battery.

Ive looked at the wiring diagram and believe PIN 4 is the ignition feed into the plug. I`ll check this later today and report back along with the code scan.
 
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Today I have had the day off to try and get to the bottom of this issue,or at least a process of elimination

Here is a fresh scan from today after clearing old DTCS

Code:
 VIN: WAUZZZ8L831202175   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 8L (8L - Audi A3/S3 (1997 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 22 35 37 45 55 56 57 75 76
 
VIN: WAUZZZ8L831202175   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BAM.lbl
   Part No: 8N0 906 018 BH
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT         0001  
   Coding: 10710
   Shop #: WSC 33278  
   VCID: 78A9E9F99BC1D077F29-5160
   WAUZZZ8L831202175     AUZ7Z0B2114192

1 Fault Found:
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1649 - 35-00 - Missing Message from ABS Controller
Readiness: 0110 0100

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8N0-907-379-MK20-E.clb
   Part No: 8N0 907 379 E
   Component: ESP     20    CAN  V005   
   Coding: 18448
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 3E253FE1F9652E47F85-4B1E

4 Faults Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error 
            00-00 - -
00813 - Sensor 2 for Brake Pressure (G214) 
            57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            49-00 - No Communications
01276 - ABS Hydraulic Pump (V64) 
            16-10 - Signal Outside Specifications - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 8L0 820 043 K
   Component: A3  KLIMAAUTOMAT   0105  
   Coding: 00041
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 303911D93331C8377A9-2596

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8L0-959-655-AI8.lbl
   Part No: 8L0 959 655 L
   Component: Airbag Front+Seite 7008  
   Coding: 01104
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 47CB5A05A6BF6F8F4B3-5160

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8L0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 8L0 920 980 R
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D10  
   Coding: 01444
   Shop #: WSC 00001  
   VCID: 42DD4B118D9D4AA79CD-5160
   WAUZZZ8L831202175     AUZ7Z0B2114192

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 22: AWD        Labels: 02D-900-554.lbl
   Part No: 02D 900 554 C
   Component: HALDEX LSC  ECC     0010  
   VCID: 2019E19963D178B7EA9-4B1E

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 8D0-862-257.clb
   Part No: 8D0 862 257 E
   Component: CV-Pump, Alarm, RC  D17  
   Coding: 15211
   Shop #: WSC 27925  
   VCID: 2F3B12A52E0FD7CF633-4F2E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 173 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 6099A199235138B7AA9-4AA4

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4B0-907-357-AUT.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 907 357 
   Component: LEUCHTWEITEREGLER  D004  
   Coding: 00014
   Shop #: WSC 01236  
   VCID: 6597B08D3C735D9F59F-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 8L0 035 195 H
   Component: symphony II NP2    0151   
   Coding: 00201
   Shop #: WSC 24929  
   VCID: 33331ED5C227F32F07B-4E62

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 03:17, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.2V)-----------

So far i have:

Replaced all fuses- 2x 30amp on top of the battery and the 5amp interior fuse

I have checked and have 2 good 12v+ permanent power feeds
I have good earth points having cleaned up both the stud and the terminal ends
I found my Haldex earth strap like so many had come apart so i have replaced this today

Where im slightly confused is that i have 2 12v+ terminal 15 feeds with the ignition on. Both of these drop with either the ignition off or with the interior fuse removed.

The only wiring diagram i could find that related to the car (A3 8L was as close as i could find) was one with a 25 Pin J104 module plug. Mine appears to have 44 pins, so i`m not 100% sure i should have two ignition feeds?

Any ideas. Im now wondering if it is an internal module issue.
 
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The only wiring diagram i could find that related to the car (A3 8L was as close as i could find)
Sounds like you need to create an account on the EU Audi erWin website, buy 1 hour access and download all the documents for your car (enter the VIN to get the correct ones) which will include the wiring diagrams.
 
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Hi All,

I didn't realise a year had passed! My ABS Controller is completely knackered now and I will be sending it off to a company called http://bba-reman.com to be hopefully repaired. I've managed to source a second hand one from eBay, which I've tested, just needed to be reprogrammed and the steering wheel sensor needs to be re-calibrated. I'm not looking forward to brake bleeding :(
 
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Cant you just split the ABS module in car & without swapping entire manifold to save work operations?
 
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Update..


Ive now replaced the ABS module for a Second hand item and the 65535 fault has been rectified.

I also replaced the second pressure sensor on the master cylinder AND the short tail loom to both pressure sensors as i had a fault stored, but i`m still getting the `electrical fault in circuit` code. The rest of the loom that runs along the bulkhead looks to be ok.

Interestingly, i only had this fault on the rear g214 pressure sensor when the car went in to have the pump changed, however since the rear one has been changed, i now have the fault on both the 201 and 214 again. Both sensors have been replaced this year. When i coded the replacement module at home Prior to the pump being fitted, the only code was the G214 fault, so i know this is not an internal issue with the Module as i would have seen both sensor faults then.

I notice that one of the possible solutions on Ross Tech Wiki is a pump bleed. My garage that i use were unable to pressure bleed the entire ABS system (only doing the master cylinder) as VCDS crashed during an update. As the wiring was the only other thing that was interfered with when the sensor was changed, could this issue be the fact that the sensors are not seeing the correct pressure in the system? Although ok, the pedal doesn`t feel as firm as it should under-foot. Both sensors are reading 194PSI in the measuring blocks.

The ESP triangle light doesn`t immediately illuminate when starting the car tending to take a minute or so before it pops up on the dash.

I don`t appear to have any visible wiring damage anywhere- most of the wiring looks to be hidden behind the bulkhead area anyway.

I see a lot of S3/TT videos with the ESP light illuminated on the dash. These sensors seem to be a common fault.
 
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What's the RTFB say, this isn't a new auto scan, post one okay?

Did you verify for FOD yet?
 
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What's the RTFB say, this isn't a new auto scan, post one okay?

Did you verify for FOD yet?
I made an error posting yesterday. I thought i had started my own thread but i realise i jumped on the end of another users.
Thats what happens with just 2 hours sleep.


My apologies. I`ll start my own thread and post a fresh scan

apologies @rraghvani for jumping on your thread.
 
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