VCDS-Mobile stuck on K-line

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Detlef Trapp

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VCDS-Mobile on both Android and Windows always gets stuck on my HN1-000216 trying to access the 26-Auto Roof module:


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but VCDS sure works fine:

Code: 
Tuesday,28,November,2023,21:27:13:10727
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 23.11.0.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20231027 DS351.0
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VIN: WVWZZZ1YZ4M3xxxxx   License Plate:
Mileage: 232340km-144369mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1Y (1Y - VW New Beetle Cab (2003 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 25 26 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75
 
VIN: WVWZZZ1YZ4M3xxxxx   Mileage: 232340km-144369miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 036-906-032-AXP.lbl
   Part No: 036 906 032 AF
   Component: ME7.5.10        G   4576
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 00066
   VCID: 54E4BC4BA6D2A83137-5160
   WVWZZZ1YZ4M3xxxxx     VWZ5Z0C9237030

2 Faults Found:
16955 - Brake Switch (F)
            P0571 - 35-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
16804 - Catalyst System; Bank 1
            P0420 - 35-00 - Efficiency Below Threshold
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102
   Coding: 0011266
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3424DCCB5612883117-5160

1 Fault Found:
00526 - Brake Light Switch (F)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 909 605 AF
   Component: 07 AIRBAG VW71      
   Coding: 0012343
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 7BB637F73BCC874996-513C

1 Fault Found:
01222 - Crash Sensor Side Airbag; Passenger Side (G180)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1C0-920-x4x.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 920 840 H
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V05
   Coding: 01114
   Shop #: WSC 00000
   VCID: 23062F97B3FC1F89FE-4B00
   WVWZZZ1YZ4M3xxxxx     VWZ5Z0C9237030

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    V052
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00066
   VCID: 70AC10DB328AF41133-4B00

No fault code found.

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Address 26: Auto Roof        Labels: 1Y0-959-255-HYD.lbl
   Part No: 1Y0 959 255
   Component:  VSG  NBC       ü
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7DB239EF25D88979A8-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 F
   Component: 6L Komfortgerát HLO 0004
   Coding: 00257
   Shop #: WSC 00066
   VCID: 3A38F2F324767E41CD-4B00

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Y1959801
   Component: 6L Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0001

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1Y1959802A
   Component: Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0001

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1Y0959811
   Component: 6L Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0001

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1Y0959812
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0005

2 Faults Found:
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
            62-10 - No or Incorrect Adjustment - Intermittent
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148)
            62-10 - No or Incorrect Adjustment - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1J0-035-15x-56.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 035 153
   Component:  Radio BNO         0005
   Coding: 00003
   Shop #: WSC 00066
   VCID: 55E2414FAD28B139C0-4AE0

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 03:44, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V)-----------
 
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A debug 001f from mobile would be helpful to check what is happening here.
 
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Thanks Shaun I already sent it by e-mail
 
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It's receiving a weirdly concatenated packet it looks like a 7f 31 error in the middle of some keepalives.
Code: 
callback:20202020ef81f1a07e9081f1a07e9083f1a07f1a31de81f1a07e9081f1a07e90000000
This could mean something with the kline timing is off like the latency timeout is too high leading to concatenation.
You could try making a debug 011f it might help clarify if this is timing related. Do you have a kline analyzer it would be good to see how much time was between those packets on the wire?
 
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For clarity:
Code: 
callback:20202020ef
81f1a07e90
81f1a07e90
83f1a07f1a31de
81f1a07e90
81f1a07e90
000000
I agree with Shaun, this is very weird :D
 
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Debug level 011F is already on its way to Shaun and Eric, sorry don't have a K-Line analyzer, couldn't you just add time stamps to the debug level outputs? Just wondering why nobody came across this since this is has been quite a popular car especially in the US?
 
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Detlef can you please try making these scans again with the new alpha CB V0.4644?
 
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Congratulations Shaun works just fine on 26-Auto Roof but now it gets stuck on 15-Airbags without even showing any module data, want me to send you the 011F debug file?
 
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thanks already on its way to you
 
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I was afraid of that, the faster timing needed for the 26 breaks things on another module. OK so what I can do is revert the timing speed, and then put in the faster timing only for modules at address 26 and we can see how that works.
 
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If there is no way to measure the timing, I would only speed it up for this specific part number unless you have other reports of incompatibilities for other part numbers
 
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Detlef please give CB V0.4645 a try.
 
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Great job, Shaun, communications with all modules seem to work just fine now - but I noticed another problem I had not noticed before and which has been existing at least since November: VCDS Mobile skips 17-Instruments even though it is listed in the scan list, I tried 3 times. Manual selection and communication with 17-Instruments work just fine but it is skipped during Auto-Scan even though VCDS Mobile says it is trying to connect. I will send you a debug file by mail.
 
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Shaun said:
Bump for alpha CB V0.4647
* Comms improvements
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Thanks but sorry to tell you it skips 3 out of 7 modules on a 2004 Beetle during Auto-Scan and is very reluctant to communicate with 46 :-(. Want some debug data?
 
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Sure, if this is with VCDS 1028 debugs are a good start. Can it talk to the other modules individually?
 
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Shaun said:
Sure, if this is with VCDS 1028 debugs are a good start. Can it talk to the other modules individually?
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thanks sure would love to but after 10 tries seems like my HEX-NET won't write to the sd card anymore even though it is already a replacement card. To make things worse, I ran out of dedicated sd cards, so is there a way to format/repair my sd card or format a different one?

Yes, last time I tried it would talk to every module individually, so I suppose it has problems reading/processing the address list.
 
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If you are trying to make this log through VCDS-Mobile, then the debug level would be 001f. See if that makes the log.
 
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Shaun said:
If you are trying to make this log through VCDS-Mobile, then the debug level would be 001f. See if that makes the log.
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Yes always talking about VCDS-Mobile, and as I said, sure would love to but after 10 tries seems like my HEX-NET won't write to the sd card anymore even though it is already a replacement card. To make things worse, I ran out of dedicated sd cards, so is there a way to format/repair my sd card or format a different one?
 
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You could try mounting the card on windows and running a disk clean, that might be able to fix it. If the card is readable but just won't write, you could also try copying the data to a new card.
 
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