I have a 2014 Passat 1.8l Turbo engine with 130,000kms. I am the original owner and car is completely stock
with not modifications or other work done to the engine except the recall fixes that have come out.
I have a problem with rough idle that has gotten worse over time (8-9 months started at 110,000kms).
Now it consistently idles rough after the first 30 seconds of starting. it will continue to idle very rough/ erattic
until I drive the car for 5-10 mins.acceleration and highway speeds are fine. the car idles so rough that it does
stall but starts right back up.only occasionally when it stalls will it throw a code. P0011 and P0016.
( I think these are a result of how rough and erratic the idle is. 800 - 500 RPM
After some basic trouble shooting and an intake valve cleaning with no help I bought a VCDS and here I am.
What I found is that when comparing Cam Adjustment Bank 1: Specified vs Cam Adjustment Bank1 Actual is this.
When I first start the car both are 0 deg for the first 30 seconds or so, then the specified jumps to 10 deg and the
actual jumps to 64 deg. and the erratic idle starts. If I toy with the revs the specified and actual eventually come
closer together and the idle gets better as well. During the rough idle I decided to unplug the N205 and it smoothed
out right away plug it back in and within a few seconds the rough idle starts again.
What seems to be happening is that the cam adjustment is way over shooting what the target or specified adjustment is.
After some research, my understanding is that there is a pin in the N205 that extends into a small hole in a unit that
threads into the end of the cam and controls the oil pressure / flow to a unit that turns the cam in relation to the cam
sprocket to vary the timing.
My question is this: does it make sense that the problem is the oil flow/pressure, N205 itself or the signal that the N205
is getting? My thoughts are that it isn't lack of oil because the adjustment is actually over shooting in my case and I am
actually getting too much adjustment and that unplugging the N205 I have a smooth idle. But I really do not know for certain
how this system works. Is the N205 pin usually extended and it retracts to advance the timing, or is it the reverse?
If anyone is familiar with this system and knows for certain how it operates, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks (My full autoscan is posted below)
with not modifications or other work done to the engine except the recall fixes that have come out.
I have a problem with rough idle that has gotten worse over time (8-9 months started at 110,000kms).
Now it consistently idles rough after the first 30 seconds of starting. it will continue to idle very rough/ erattic
until I drive the car for 5-10 mins.acceleration and highway speeds are fine. the car idles so rough that it does
stall but starts right back up.only occasionally when it stalls will it throw a code. P0011 and P0016.
( I think these are a result of how rough and erratic the idle is. 800 - 500 RPM
After some basic trouble shooting and an intake valve cleaning with no help I bought a VCDS and here I am.
What I found is that when comparing Cam Adjustment Bank 1: Specified vs Cam Adjustment Bank1 Actual is this.
When I first start the car both are 0 deg for the first 30 seconds or so, then the specified jumps to 10 deg and the
actual jumps to 64 deg. and the erratic idle starts. If I toy with the revs the specified and actual eventually come
closer together and the idle gets better as well. During the rough idle I decided to unplug the N205 and it smoothed
out right away plug it back in and within a few seconds the rough idle starts again.
What seems to be happening is that the cam adjustment is way over shooting what the target or specified adjustment is.
After some research, my understanding is that there is a pin in the N205 that extends into a small hole in a unit that
threads into the end of the cam and controls the oil pressure / flow to a unit that turns the cam in relation to the cam
sprocket to vary the timing.
My question is this: does it make sense that the problem is the oil flow/pressure, N205 itself or the signal that the N205
is getting? My thoughts are that it isn't lack of oil because the adjustment is actually over shooting in my case and I am
actually getting too much adjustment and that unplugging the N205 I have a smooth idle. But I really do not know for certain
how this system works. Is the N205 pin usually extended and it retracts to advance the timing, or is it the reverse?
If anyone is familiar with this system and knows for certain how it operates, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks (My full autoscan is posted below)
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Chassis Type: A3-VW41 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 2E 42 44 46 4F 52 56 62 72
77
VIN: 1VWBS7A38EC062317 Mileage: 138110km-85817miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CPKA) Labels:. 06K-907-425-V2.clb
Part No SW: 06K 906 070 H HW: 06K 907 425
Component: R4 1.8l TFS H09 9365
Revision: --H09--- Serial number:
Coding: 001A0012242400160000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906070H 001009
ROD: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906070D.rod
VCID: 2F3B133E779633CF633-807A
8 Faults Found:
15125 - Cylinder 1
P0301 00 [096] - Misfire Detected
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 137803 km
Date: 2019.08.27
Time: 04:51:28
Engine speed: 860.25 /min
Normed load value: 12.9 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 85 °C
Intake air temperature: 70 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.023 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 28
FAC_LAM_LIM[1]: -12.386 %
Time since engine start: 212.8 s
Engine: operating status: IS
15131 - Cylinder 3
P0303 00 [096] - Misfire Detected
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 137803 km
Date: 2019.08.27
Time: 04:51:28
Engine speed: 860.25 /min
Normed load value: 12.9 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 85 °C
Intake air temperature: 70 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.023 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 28
FAC_LAM_LIM[1]: -12.386 %
Time since engine start: 212.8 s
Engine: operating status: IS
15134 - Cylinder 4
P0304 00 [096] - Misfire Detected
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 137803 km
Date: 2019.08.27
Time: 04:51:28
Engine speed: 860.25 /min
Normed load value: 12.9 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 85 °C
Intake air temperature: 70 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.023 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 28
FAC_LAM_LIM[1]: -12.386 %
Time since engine start: 212.8 s
Engine: operating status: IS
15128 - Cylinder 2
P0302 00 [096] - Misfire Detected
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 137803 km
Date: 2019.08.27
Time: 04:54:43
Engine speed: 1234.50 /min
Normed load value: 11.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 85 °C
Intake air temperature: 74 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.199 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 28
FAC_LAM_LIM[1]: 28.737 %
Time since engine start: 408.4 s
Engine: operating status: PL
15137 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 00 [096] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Mileage: 137803 km
Date: 2019.08.27
Time: 04:51:28
Engine speed: 860.25 /min
Normed load value: 12.9 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 85 °C
Intake air temperature: 70 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.023 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 28
FAC_LAM_LIM[1]: -12.386 %
Time since engine start: 212.8 s
Engine: operating status: IS
14868 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
P0016 00 [104] - Incorrect Correlation
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Mileage: 137531 km
Date: 2019.08.24
Time: 01:36:14
Engine speed: 911.50 /min
Normed load value: 4.7 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 83 °C
Intake air temperature: 49 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 12.148 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 28
Engine: operating status: IS
STATE_LS_SAE[1]: OL_CDN
T_AST_SAE: 0 s
MAP_MES_SAE: 57 kPa
Lambda probe voltage: bank 1: probe 1 (broadband probe): 2.026 V
FAC_TPS_1_SAE: 11.328125 %
FUP_H_SAE: 12000.0 kPa
14870 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake)
P0011 00 [104] - Retard Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 12
Mileage: 137377 km
Date: 2019.08.21
Time: 03:38:07
Engine speed: 2022.75 /min
Normed load value: 78.0 %
Vehicle speed: 115 km/h
Coolant temperature: 86 °C
Intake air temperature: 16 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.414 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 38
Engine: operating status: PL
CAM_VCP[IN_1]: 64.117 °
CAM_SP_IND_VCP[IN_1]: 30.000 °
T_AST_SAE: 510 s
Engine oil temperature: 91.0 °C
PWM_HLD_VCP[IN_1]: 31.903 %
STATE_PWM_VCP[IN_1]: pas
15270 - Camshaft Timing Adj. Bank1 (N205)
P1528 00 [032] - Open Circuit
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 137959 km
Date: 2019.08.31
Time: 00:57:24
Engine speed: 816.50 /min
Normed load value: 17.6 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 58 °C
Intake air temperature: 48 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.042 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 38
Engine: operating status: IS
CAM_VCP[IN_1]: 0.000 °
CAM_SP_IND_VCP[IN_1]: 10.000 °
T_AST_SAE: 41 s
Engine oil temperature: 38.0 °C
PWM_HLD_VCP[IN_1]: 32.458 %
STATE_PWM_VCP[IN_1]: ACT
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217) Labels:* 09G-927-749-V1.clb
Part No SW: 09G 927 749 AN HW: 09G 927 749 B
Component: AISIN AG6 G3 101 3133
Coding: 000348
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAQ250031 002009
ROD: EV_TCMAQ250031_002_VW31.rod
VCID: 0557919685AA599FF9F-8050
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BM HW: 1K0 907 379 BM
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H46 0164
Revision: 00H46001
Coding: C54BC0F5492800FCA30E03E592200041A0100012
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 7EA5FE7AE0FC0A47B85-802A
2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101101
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 113
Mileage: 136047 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.12.29
Time: 20:31:01
Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 32772
Count: 12800
Count: 8196
Count: 50944
Count: 5120
Count: 250
Count: 0
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 115
Mileage: 136516 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.01.03
Time: 03:00:41
Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 32768
Count: 4608
Count: 16401
Count: 51013
Count: 0
Count: 1024
Count: 0
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 561 907 044 AF HW: 561 907 044 AF
Component: Climatronic H03 0606
Revision: 00001K02
Coding: 0030019002
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411 A01001
ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411_VW41.rod
VCID: 5BE397EE53AEFF6FFFB-800E
1 Fault Found:
9474161 - Motor for Defroster Flap
B1090 71 [008] - Actuator stuck
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 32
Reset counter: 85
Mileage: 134300 km
Date: 2019.07.20
Time: 11:31:19
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 937 085 AB HW: 5K0 937 085 AB
Component: BCM PQ35 B+ 122 0173
Revision: BH122001
Coding: EF200E1B802B2AD4088800010600044800F1A08640801D20648060000C70
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 73B3DF4EDBBE572FC7B-8026
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AE HW: 5C0 959 655 AE
Component: AirbagVW10G 014 0851
Serial number: 003MWM03PWJT
Coding: 00004D4A
Shop #: WSC 05497 002 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
VCID: 75B7E156D54A491FE9F-8020
Seat occupied recognition:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B HW: 5C6 959 339 B
Component: BF-Gewichtss. H10 0046
Serial number: 6940000Y1300010M6000
Coding: 303046
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V H02 ----
Serial number: 3572MSME1F47147EZZZ3
Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Beif.V H02 ----
Serial number: 3582MSME6F13617DZZZ3
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A HW: 5K0 959 351 A
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H H02 ----
Serial number: 3516KSME48481729ZZZW
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A HW: 5K0 959 351 A
Component: S.Sens.Beif.H H02 ----
Serial number: 3526KSME73751729ZZZV
Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A HW: 5K0 959 659 A
Component: F.Sens.Fahr H02 ----
Serial number: 3556LSME25175A29ZZZZ
Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A HW: 5K0 959 659 A
Component: F.Sens.Beif H02 ----
Serial number: 3566LSME18404A29ZZZX
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 BM HW: 5K0 953 569 AE
Component: LENKS.MODUL 016 0140
Revision: FF010042 Serial number: 20131114300166
Coding: 089A140000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
VCID: 79AFED66F9522D7F8D7-802C
Multifunction steering wheel control module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D HW: 3C8 959 537 D Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TK6 H07 0022
Coding: E30000
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 561 920 870 D HW: 561 920 870 D
Component: KOMBI H04 0811
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 331E01
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04721
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
VCID: 1A6DD2EA1C14C66724D-804E
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AM HW: 7N0 907 530 AM
Component: J533 Gateway H55 1642
Revision: H55 Serial number: 15111303000625
Coding: 461000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 7BA3F76EF3EE1F6F9FB-802E
No fault code found.
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Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
Part No SW: 561 919 965 HW: 561 919 965
Component: Kompass 002 0001
Revision: 00002000 Serial number: 1829227R4JA906
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 6393AF0E675EC7AFB7B-8036
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0811
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
VCID: 6A8DC22A8CF496E774D-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 561 959 701 HW: 3C0 959 793 B
Component: TUER-SG FT 002 0525
Revision: 13110009 Serial number: 0007551998
Coding: 0404F5
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
VCID: 5BE397EE53AEFF6FFFB-800E
Slave Driver:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 811 B HW: 561 959 811 B Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
Component: J388__TSG_HL 006 5470
Serial number: 14102630131118144336
Coding: 800000
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 288 3501
Revision: 00H22000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 392F2D66B552ED7FCD7-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520) Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 532 HW: 7N0 907 530 AM
Component: EZE_2 H55 1642
Revision: H55 Serial number: 15111303000625
Coding: 01030108
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 6FBBD33EB79673CF233-803A
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 591 HW: 561 959 591
Component: J245 P05 FFD7 H07 0004
Serial number: 53388786011324402067
Coding: 181100
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 561 919 204 B HW: 561 919 204 B
Component: Analoguhr 008 0005
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 561 959 702 HW: 3C0 959 792 B
Component: TUER-SG BT 002 0525
Revision: 15110009 Serial number: 0007624923
Coding: 0404F4
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
VCID: 5CE194F256A0F857F61-8008
Slave Passenger:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 812 B HW: 561 959 812 B Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
Component: J389__TSG_HR 006 5470
Serial number: 14102631131126125243
Coding: 800000
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 035 164 F HW: 1K0 035 164 F
Component: LOW NAR SDARS H03 0005
Revision: -----07S Serial number: VWZ4Z6N3699340
Coding: 2100040002000B
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 2517F11625EA799F99F-8070
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels:| 5N0-035-729.clb
Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 A HW: 5N0 035 729 A
Component: TELEFON H05 0315
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007665462262
Coding: 0A10030080010110
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
VCID: 2E050E3A709C3AC7685-807A
No fault code found.
End----(Elapsed Time: 01:09, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V. VIgn 12.0V)-----
