creating ecm codes

starkie · Jul 16, 2016

hi where do i find the list for creating a ecm code for my car ?
the car in question is a uk 2003 audi a4 1.9 tdi multitronic the code currently is set at 000001 and having communication errors and wondering if this could be the cause of it.
gearbox tcu has been opened and no wiring faults have been found but its the abs fault code that making me wonder if its the engine ecm thats not configured properly with its current coding and been looking for ages trying to find the list :confused:

Code:

Sunday,10,July,2016,13:43:48:44553
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.4.1 (x64)
Data version: 20160216
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8E84A046688   License Plate: 
Mileage: 187230km-116339mi   Repair Order: 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
          67 69 75 76 77
 
VIN: WAUZZZ8E84A046688   Mileage: 187230km-116339miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-019-AVF.lbl
   Part No: 038 906 019 LJ
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000AG  4910  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 6ADBBA4F16D1E06EC0-4B00
   WAUZZZ8E84A046688     AUZ6Z0C0205287

2 Faults Found:
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU
17994 - Engine Mount Solenoid Valves (N144/N145) 
            P1586 - 35-10 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
Readiness: 1 1 1 1 1 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 614 517 
   Component: ABS/ESP front       3429  
   Coding: 04259
   Shop #: WSC 06435  
   VCID: 65C1C973FFCFCF16ED-5140

3 Faults Found:
01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            35-00 -  - 
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU
18055 - Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1647 - 35-00 - 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 820 043 AA
   Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   1219  
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 60CFD867E0EDAA3E1E-515E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 907 279 E
   Component: int. Lastmodul  RDW 0305  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 346764370495669EAA-4B00

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 959 655 B
   Component: Airbag 8.4EP        3002  
   Coding: 0010602
   Shop #: WSC 63351 000 00000
   VCID: 36635E3F42E9748E94-5140

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 953 549 F
   Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0308  
   Coding: 01011
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 36635E3F12E9748E94-4B00

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 920 950 J
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D36  
   Coding: 00400
   Shop #: WSC 00048  
   VCID: 306F6827F08D5ABECE-515E
   WAUZZZ8E84A046688     AUZ6Z0C0205287

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 8E0-951-177.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 951 177 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.   0604  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 6BD5BF4B192BF966BB-5140

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 959 433 BC
   Component: Komfortgerát T3B    1311  
   Coding: 06859
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 73E5A72B411B21A673-4B00

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E2959802B
   Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0003  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E2959801B
   Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0003  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0003  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0003  

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 035 186 J
   Component: concert II  GRO    0008  
   Coding: 01001
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 2E53765FEAB94C4EDC-4B00

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 06:09)--------------------------

Dutchie · Jul 16, 2016

Does the TCU has all of it power and ground? No bad connection on the fuse holder on the battery?

starkie · Jul 16, 2016

fuse holder on battery ?

going to try a different battery on car as current one holding just over 12v

dubTECH · Jul 16, 2016

You have no communication with your tcu, would it not be best practice to get the relevant wiring diagrams and then check power and earth's to the tcu?

What exactly is wrong with the car?

starkie · Jul 16, 2016

no drive via gearbox and no prds symbols on the dash gear selector lights work but does nothing regarding gear selection have tested down at the socket and pins 9 and 10 do have power but around 11.9v hence wanting to try another battery

when i bought the car the 4 relays under the ecu had been submerged in water all have been opened and tested to confirm they work and no fuses found to be popped

dubTECH · Jul 16, 2016

How did you conduct a wiring test/check??

starkie · Jul 16, 2016

meterman digital meter between pins and chassis

if you have a full way to test the wiring the help would be much appreciated as have only been able to find bits and pieces

dubTECH · Jul 16, 2016

Checking resistance, Continuity and short to ground/positive/each other?( continuity should never be used for testing condition of wires) Unfortunately my laptop is in the workshop so I have no access to my wiring diagrams, but in this occasion I don't think coding is your problem. I would nearly be sure these Engine modules only having coding of 00001 or 00002, but irrespective of that, you need to have comms with the tcu or you'll never get it to work.

starkie · Jul 16, 2016

its the p1647 message from the abs ecu saying Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus thats making me wonder if its due to something loosing its coding thats causing the tcu not to be listened too

Uwe · Jul 16, 2016

starkie said:
its the p1647 message from the abs ecu saying Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus thats making me wonder if its due to something loosing its coding thats causing the tcu not to be listened too

I don't think so. Notice that your ABS is also complaining that it can't talk to the TCU, and that VCDS can't talk to the TCU?

-Uwe-

starkie · Jul 16, 2016

a wiring diagram i have found just a pity it doesnt show multiplugs that they go to

[/IMG]

starkie · Jul 16, 2016

finally found the document i was looking for going by this my ecu only knows the car is a a4 and nothing else

[/IMG]

vwtech · Jul 16, 2016

Are you trying to code an ECU for a different trans?

Are you changing ECU?

Wrong ECU in car?

Why do you want to code ECU?

Good Luck

Jack@European_Parts · Jul 16, 2016

VIN: WAUZZZ8E84A046688 License Plate:
Mileage: 187230km-116339mi Repair Order:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 02 no COM
67 69 75 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ8E84A046688 Mileage: 187230km-116339miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-019-AVF.lbl
Part No: 038 906 019 LJ
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000AG 4910
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 63351
VCID: 6ADBBA4F16D1E06EC0-4B00
WAUZZZ8E84A046688 AUZ6Z0C0205287

2 Faults Found:
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU
17994 - Engine Mount Solenoid Valves (N144/N145)
P1586 - 35-10 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
Readiness: 1 1 1 1 1

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
Part No: 8E0 614 517
Component: ABS/ESP front 3429
Coding: 04259
Shop #: WSC 06435
VCID: 65C1C973FFCFCF16ED-5140

3 Faults Found:
01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
35-00 - -
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU
18055 - Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus
P1647 - 35-00 -

Ahh that coding table is for a gasser/petro.
It's not going to fix your problem of failing to use the appropriate RTFB or the COM issue for the multitronic POS not talking.

Further that WD is hunk of SHIT..... nix that please.......

Time for JPPSG..........and Erwin.

WAUZZZ8E84A046688
Model	Audi a4 1,9 tdi A4
Date of production	04.08.2003
Year	2004
Sales type	8E20NH
Engine Code	AVF
Transmission Code	GJA
Axle drive	SA
Equipment	LA
Roof color	2S
Exterior color /Paint Code	2S / Y7H

http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot

starkie · Jul 17, 2016

vwtech said:
Are you trying to code an ECU for a different trans?

Are you changing ECU?

Wrong ECU in car?

Why do you want to code ECU?

Good Luck

no drive via gearbox and no PRDS symbols on the dash gear selector lights work but does nothing regarding gear selection have tested down at the socket and pins 9 and 10 do have power but around 11.9v hence wanting to try another battery

when i bought the car the 4 relays under the ecu had been submerged in water all have been opened and tested to confirm they work and no fuses found to be popped

(Car has just been bought with this fault so no true history of what happened and why though given water was found in the ecu tray its leading me to think water ingress to cabling etc. only info of what i have found regarding the tcu failures is the internal cables snap hence opening the tcu up and checking pins to wire points on board to rule out and non visable snaps )

interior carpet has been removed as carpet was wet but the underside wasnt soaking underneath but will allow me to clean the carpets properly anyway so dont mind doing that :lol:

Jack@European_Parts · Jul 17, 2016

Time to inspect everything and trace via the correct WD.
All aforementioned posts are and have been a waste of time.

vwtech · Jul 17, 2016

Being from the UK there is a lot I don't know about this A4 and it's a TDI.

First off is TCU in the ECU box in the cowl area or under right side rug?

Shit I don't even know if it's right or left hand drive or if that matters.....

But water in the ECU box means go under battery and open the cowl drains so water can flow out.
Reseal ECU box to the cowl body. Reseal the fresh air intake box to the body on other side also.

Then find TCU and load test all power and grounds with a head light bulb that draws a few amps.

Then post back the findings.

Good Luck.

P.S. Uwe we need a forum made for US cars only and a forum for ROW cars.
For guys like me it would be much easier! Then the pro's like Jack can follow both. LOL
But for guy's like me I am lost on ROW so I am afraid to comment.

No offense to ROW!

Uwe · Jul 17, 2016

vwtech said:
First off is TCU in the ECU box in the cowl area or under right side rug?

Based on the ABS coding, this car has an 01J CVT type of transmission, which has the TCU mechantronic integral to the transmission itself.

vwtech said:
P.S. Uwe we need a forum made for US cars only and a forum for ROW cars.

Nah, with very few exceptions (a few engines that were NAR only), NAR model cars are just a subset of the cars offered on ROW markets.

-Uwe-

dubTECH · Jul 17, 2016

From what I see, your 30 feed is on pin 26 on j217 (tcu) the earth's for said unit are on pin 6 and 34. Your 15 feed is direct from ignition into pins 54/55. So going by this I'm pretty keen to know what exactly you tested giving you said you already checked pins?? But they weren't the numbers I can see.

Edit as @Uwe has already said, the tcu is built onto the rear of the gearbox.

creating ecm codes

starkie

Verified VCDS User

Dutchie

Verified VCDS User

starkie

Verified VCDS User

dubTECH

Verified VCDS User

starkie

Verified VCDS User

dubTECH

Verified VCDS User

starkie

Verified VCDS User

dubTECH

Verified VCDS User

starkie

Verified VCDS User

Uwe

Benevolent Dictator

starkie

Verified VCDS User

starkie

Verified VCDS User

vwtech

Verified Coal Cracker

Jack@European_Parts

Gone But Not Forgotten

starkie

Verified VCDS User

Jack@European_Parts

Gone But Not Forgotten

vwtech

Verified Coal Cracker

Uwe

Benevolent Dictator

dubTECH

Verified VCDS User