Polo 6R/6C 1.4 TDI Trip computer buttons

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Greetings guys , I have a Polo 1.4 TDI .
on the right of the steering wheel , it has no buttons for trip computer like other models
I retrofited one . Front and rear washers work ok , but not the buttons
I have an autoscan . Can the Polo have the trip computer work ? Or is it an Instrument cluster limitation.
THank you
Code:
Tuesday,08,January,2019,12:31:08:19672
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name:

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZFY316138   License Plate:
Mileage: 76362km-47449mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW26 (6C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 44 5F

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZFY316138   Mileage: 76362km-47449miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CUSA)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 04B 997 027     HW: 04B 907 445 
   Component: R3 1.4l TDI   H08 9430  
   Revision: 21006001    
   Coding: 01114012420400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TDI03004B997027 004006
   ROD: EV_ECM14TDI03004B997027G.rod
   VCID: 68884F6272F716C7365-803C

No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 G    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
   Component: ESP9.0i       H03 0003  
   Serial number: 08508856150412
   Coding: 21DD2485892433C60915006C0059842491CC90000007C9098F00
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100018
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
   VCID: 3332E80E7BB1A51F537-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 6C0-820-045.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 820 045     HW: 6C0 820 045 
   Component: AC Manuell    H03 0108  
   Serial number:  1503261B-1955
   Coding: 201000000000000200
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
   ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26.rod
   VCID: 5CE063B2B6AF4A67A2D-8008

1 Fault Found:
1048834 - Functional Limitation due to Energy Management 
          B10CD 00 [012] -  - 
          [Funktionseinschrδnkung  durch Energiemanagment]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 101
                    Mileage: 76299 km
                    Date: 2019.01.05
                    Time: 21:47:00

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.8 V
                    Auxiliary heater: in stages-Enabling for auxiliary heater operation: no_enabling
                    Auxiliary heater: in stages-Act.val.: 0
                    Auxiliary heater: in stages-Specified value: 3
                    Auxiliary heater: in stages-Specified value for control: 0


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 6C0 937 087 B    HW: 6C0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ26 Me4R H07 0065  
   Serial number: 001088055146
   Coding: 00000840401300534B844000400703000000580051010000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 004008
   ROD: EV_MQBA0.rod
   VCID: 2D06FE769D95F3EF053-8078

   Drivers Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AT    HW: 6R0 959 801 AT  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8612 
   Serial number: KU0KU019031550783227
   Coding: 0000A0

   Front Passengers Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BE    HW: 6R0 959 802 BE  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8612 
   Serial number: KU0KU024031550834488
   Coding: 1000A0

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 6C0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 E    HW: 6C0 959 655 E
   Component: VW20Airbag00B 001 0360  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003RH000617I
   Coding: 88C0C000000000005C000000000800000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
   VCID: 3536D61675C5BB2F7D3-8060

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 304 15
   Component: SideSensor_Df  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3575H00BD19E15A3821T
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 304 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3585H000828BDAC3D2D4
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 150 504 15
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3517A00AB1A72834F04F
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 150 404 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3527A00AD1A728354318
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 6C0 920 731 B    HW: 6C0 920 731 B
   Component: KOMBI         110 0290  
   Coding: 0720090021000008000808000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009040
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 211E1246D14D278FB1B-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 909 901     HW: 6C0 937 087 
   Component: GW MQB A0     H07 0065  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 001088055146
   Coding: 01000008180A590071000000000000000001010000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 001001
   ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_001_VW26.rod
   VCID: 6596465685E50BAF0D3-8030

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 M    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3211  
   Serial number: PF4M0765
   Coding: 0007
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
   VCID: 323CED0A84ABAC17581-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 035 885 A    HW: 6C0 035 885 A
   Component: MU-E--ER      820 6230  
   Serial number: 04021500010186
   Coding: 026200003C0000004011000101000000000000040000010000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001017
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW12.rod
   VCID: 270A0C5EBF69D9BFFFF-8072

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:32, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/14.9V)-----------
 
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I think you might need a different steering wheel controller and suitable coding for both sets of buttons to work. I have a 6R Polo in the family but not had much exploration with it yet. It is also without the right MFSW buttons - I am sure I have seen other forum threads on this subject where owners have retrofitted entirely new wheels. clock spring modules and airbags to get MFSW functionality as the non MFSW wheel has different airbag.

I might do this on our 6R Polo if it can be done at little expense - where you able to fit the right side button panel without any other changes on the wheel or airbag etc ?
 
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Thank you for your replies guys. I am talking about the right lever , not msfw buttons . The stock Polo on the right lever has no buttons for Trip computer. I installed one . Evetrything works but the buttons ofcourse
I have tried some Longcodings but nothing works.
 
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Oh sorry for confusion on that. Our 6R does have buttons on the right stalk control which go through basic menus on the cluster for average speed, consumption etc. I will post up an auto scan later today. I think VW classify this as 'midline' package where you get one half of MFSW and basic computer functions but I could be wrong.

There are extended trip computer functions available with right MFSW panel buttons and corresponding button controller & cluster combinations.
 
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Oh I have it on this computer already...

Code:
Friday,04,January,2019,11:32:58:30756
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86(Parallels)
VCDS Version 18.9.0.4  HEX-NET CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20181017 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDYxxxxxx   License Plate: 
Mileage: 91930km-57122mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 44 56

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDYxxxxxx   Mileage: 91930km-57122miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J0000-CFWA)       Labels:. 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
   Part No SW: 03P 906 021 AK    HW: 03P 907 425 A
   Component: R3 1.2 DCM3.7 H09 3317  
   Revision: 11002001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114014000500080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021AK 001005
   ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021AJ.rod
   VCID: 71AAD168A0D13EC224-8025

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 1000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BE    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 230224E3416D00B9C42924E282D400821300
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 02488EA49977355ACD-8057

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H06 0060  
   Serial number: 090465LJ5000ZR
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EB0FA54E18F51BAA9-802B

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 N    HW: 6R0 820 045 N
   Component: Man AC        H02 0202  
   Revision: 0003SH02    
   VCID: 393A2948B021B682DC-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 K    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0254  
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0434 266121636
   Coding: 25B029BF08A10000012808002D2B0ED90000410F60060000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12469 483 00190
   VCID: 45C255B8CCD9C262A8-8011

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 210912 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 03302D

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AB    HW: 6R0 959 802 AB  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  008 1621 
   Serial number: KU0KU020091200018422
   Coding: 18BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AD    HW: 6R0 959 801 AD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  008 1621 
   Serial number: KU0KU017091200010077
   Coding: 18BC30

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0033 
   Serial number: 0285424             
   Coding: 020000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag01X H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX01EFA8E
   Coding: 003158
   Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4AD86684EDC72D1A45-801F

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB40511KADSGHBT

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB404T1KADSF0UF

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB405H1GLOM6HSP

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB401C4UHC45H7L

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 961 K    HW: 6R0 920 961 K
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0605  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 440A01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3E303A54A10F91BAE9-806B

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H46 0254  
   Revision: BF046001    
   Coding: 002100
   Shop #: WSC 12469 483 00190
   VCID: 70ACD46CA3DB37CA2B-8025

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0605  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A98C6048D07CD1A65-803F

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0546  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7663521386    
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 2A18060445870D1AA5-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 C
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V278  
   Coding: 11230
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 302C146CF75B77CA6B-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 035 186 L    HW: 5M0 035 186 L
   Component: Radio RCD310  004 0119  
   Revision: 01000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z2M2186438
   Coding: 01000400020001
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 352225789C3952E238-8061

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:06, VBatt start/end: 14.2V/14.1V)-----------
 
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The 6R is a completely different beast from the 6C. Yours is a Polo 6C.
- Both have the stalk buttons for MFD/MFA wired directly to the cluster resp BCM. There is no SWCM (0x16) or whatever involved.
- Both have the MFS wired directly to the BCM via LIN. There is no SWCM (0x16) or whatsoever involved.

TS verify wiring for MFD as in Polo 6C
T10 = right hand side T10 on stalks
T10/8 to BCM T73a/16
T10/9 to BCM T73a/15
T10/10 to BCM T73a/17

GND should be present already for other switches.

Enable byte 1 bit 2 in 0x17 and perhaps something in the BCM.
 
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