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Holy crap you mean with flash update that didn't exist?
It's a cold one today here too!
2006 3.2 Hard Start Issues
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Holy crap you mean with flash update that didn't exist?
It's a cold one today here too!
Holy crap you mean with flash update that didn't exist?
It's a cold one today here too!
One step forward, a couple back.
The A4 started ok Tuesday morning, slight stumble at first, but smoothed out. Was -19c, and pan heater plugged in.
The rest of the starts in various conditions have been almost flawless, until today.
Have a evap. problem to repair and my old friend P2296 is back.
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Wednesday,23,January,2019,17:05:48:34169
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
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Dealer/Shop Name: kptools
VIN: WAUDG98E46A063619 License Plate:
Mileage: 106020km-65877mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
67 69 75 76 77
VIN: WAUDG98E46A063619 Mileage: 106020km-65877miles
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Address 01: Engine (AUK) Labels:. 06E-910-559-BKH.clb
Part No SW: 8E1 910 559 D HW: 8E0 907 559 A
Component: 3.2l V6 FSI 0020
Revision: --H16--- Serial number:
Coding: 01040109190F0120
Shop #: WSC 33948 002 1048576
VCID: 2F66EFA9BE98353274-807A
3 Faults Found:
001089 - EVAP Emission Control Sys
P0441 - 008 - Incorrect Flow - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00001000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 38
Mileage: 105987 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 768 /min
Mass Air / Rev.: 119.9 mg/str
Temperature: 70.5°C
Idle
Load: 17.6 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
009220 - EVAP Leak Detection Pump Sense Circuit
P2404 - 006 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 10100001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 105987 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 992 /min
Mass Air / Rev.: 114.5 mg/str
Temperature: 55.5°C
Idle
Voltage: 13.97 V
Speed: 22.0 km/h
008854 - Fuel Pressure Regulator Valve (N276)
P2296 - 006 - Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 106018 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1024 /min
Mass Air / Rev.: 196.2 mg/str
Temperature: 30.0°C
Pressure: 3.5 bar
Voltage: 14.48 V
Temperature: -10.5°C
Readiness: 0000 0101
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
Part No SW: 8E1 910 156 E HW: 09L 927 156 B
Component: AG6 09L 3,2 FSI USA 0040
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: 4061076
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 295201B1807C5B02AA-807C
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 E HW: 8E0 614 517 AL
Component: ESP8 quattro H05 0120
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0004532
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 295201B1807C5B02AA-807C
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 AM
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 2831
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 6CDC38A51C0E8E2A11-5102
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 L
Component: int. Lastmodul USA 0504
Coding: 01023
Shop #: WSC 65536
VCID: 3B7ECBF929E0D992C8-4B00
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 H HW: 8E0 959 655 H
Component: Airbag 9.41 H11 3540
Revision: 91H1135 Serial number: 0036N000TSRU
Coding: 0033707
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 3C7CC8E57FEEDEAAC1-8068
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332DRB401E44931J
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB401EBD3AC5
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352ARB400842CB0J
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362ARB40088CF0F+
Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63729RB400907494G
Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63829RB4009072B1E
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0601
Coding: 04041
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 4182B9114B0CB34292-4AE6
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 920 931 Q HW: 8E0 920 931 Q
Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H12 0110
Revision: 0110 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0023301
Shop #: WSC 92602 999 88005
VCID: 3668DACD42C204FA37-5120
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 920 931 Q HW: 8E0 920 931 Q
Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H12 0110
Revision: 0110 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0023301
Shop #: WSC 92602 999 88005
VCID: 3668DACD42C204FA37-513C
No fault code found.
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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory R2 F 0305
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 71E229D13B2C63C222-4AE6
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No: 8E0 959 433 BT
Component: Komfortgerát T7B 3332
Coding: 11836
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 040C7005149E666AF9-4AE6
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801G
Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0406
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802E
Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0205
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0205
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0205
1 Fault Found:
00955 - Key 1
35-10 - - - Intermittent
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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 C HW: 4F0 907 357 C
Component: AFS 1 H01 0030
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000019
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 26480A8D9162747A87-8072
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 941 329
Component: AFS-Modul links H03 0020
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E0 941 329
Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH03 0020
1 Fault Found:
02769 - Headlight Swivel Module; Left
003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110011
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 14
Reset counter: 39
Time Indication: 0
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 8E0 035 195 H
Component: symphony II PM6 0460
Coding: 01065
Shop #: WSC 26881
VCID: 2C5CF8A5DC8E4E2A51-5054
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 B HW: 8P0 862 335 B
Component: FSE_255x BT H18 0160
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: 00000000268269
Coding: 0001677
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 356ADDC15FC40FE23E-513C
No fault code found.
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Better sort that fuel pump issue and possible n80 being stuck open or LDP driver being kaput in ecu or lack of vacuum accumulated for LDP operation from possible faulty PCV or breather failure to atmosphere.
Jack, reading on this a 2296 is circuit high, and don't know it that is to be extrapolated and electrical issue or an actual pressure high. Reading several fixes and some state in the end replaced HPP after all the sensors Was the fix.
Now in the interest of learning know that lash in the cam timing either + Or minus can cause radical pressure changes even though the cam itself is in good shape. Don't know if what I have stated is applicable here or not?
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N276 regulator Short to + has to be corrected first, it creates havoc and resonance is always a possible factor, right?
N276 regulator Short to + has to be corrected first, it creates havoc and resonance is always a possible factor, right?
Resonance.......seems to be, hard to describe, the quality in a sound of being deep, full, and reverberating. but present, when cold.
P2296-006.....
it is a sound/ vibration from the hpfp that I thought was a defect, ( a possible sound caused by cavitation ) but could find no supply problem, hence, one of the two reasons to replace the hpfp,
voltage check of supply and return values,
key on and running, found no indicators of an issue.
overlay to regulator next............
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It's been a while since my last post,
here's the update:
Overlay gave no positive result
Found a 06 A4 3.2 s-line for parts, bought the ECU, dash cluster and key, swapped to my A4,
four start attempts at various temps. -24c and up to -8c, no pan heater,
no problems noted,
no codes
HPFP noise gone
ECU being replaced
Thanks
here's the update:
Overlay gave no positive result
Found a 06 A4 3.2 s-line for parts, bought the ECU, dash cluster and key, swapped to my A4,
four start attempts at various temps. -24c and up to -8c, no pan heater,
no problems noted,
no codes
HPFP noise gone
ECU being replaced
Thanks
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Did you read the JPPSG yet here?
Did you submit for all to be reimbursed under warranty?
https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...uot-JPPSG-quot&p=156577&viewfull=1#post156577
Did you submit for all to be reimbursed under warranty?
https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...uot-JPPSG-quot&p=156577&viewfull=1#post156577
I called Audi Canada and was told I had no warranty left because of the year of the vehicle.
I stressed the fact that obviously there is a emissions problem with my vehicle ( it will not pass readiness, and large deposits of carbon left on the garage floor) based on the fact a TSB exists to clear up the issue I was having and again was told there was no warranty available.
I also stated that from my understanding, the manufacturer would be responsible for the repair because they knew a problem existed back in 2008.
They suggested that I should submit a complaint and because I have owned several vehicles of the Audi brand, and they may do something because of loyalty.
I have read the CPA relating to emission requirements by the manufacturer, and seems to apply to my issue, but the result after the firmware did not totally resolve the issue.
Should I be asking for reimbursement for the cost of the update and would I have any chance at the cost of a ECU?
Also, would I have a better chance of success by submitting the complaint through all avenues such as the EPA, Audi Canada and Audi USA?
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Did you read the regulations and see the government penalties that exist and discuss them with your lawyer after making a formal written request of what was said verbally from the OEM & to state what they said in denial to establish it?
I am not a lawyer, however, I would recommend you speak with one to know your rights, right?
It is not like VW-Audi has ever lied to a consumer or government agency, right?
Did you Google VW news yet for scandals?
I am not a lawyer, however, I would recommend you speak with one to know your rights, right?
It is not like VW-Audi has ever lied to a consumer or government agency, right?
Did you Google VW news yet for scandals?
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I am gonna touch on this firmware update thing. I also had a similar experience with the dealer, when firmware update request is mentioned, the dealer seem as if they have no idea what one is talking about..They are always quick to ask you to bring car in and then they will list a number of recommendations, without the firmware issue being mentioned in the recommendations.
So my question is: why can't VCDS be used to do such updates or is it planned for the future?
So my question is: why can't VCDS be used to do such updates or is it planned for the future?
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VCDS is not a pass-thru interface.
Uwe doesn't want to get involved in it to a degree and I don't blame him when a controller fails and gets bricked etc.!
If a controller fails during a factory update & at dealer, they become responsible for it, don't they?
It's more or less an argument avoided with an unhappy consumer.
A good reason to read the JPPSG huh?
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I support such a road map.
Suspicious huh?
You will find that I have moved more recently in last few years to not doing firmware updates & not before the dealer fails to perform them for free & as they should under warranty and clearly that path has been established, as TFSI has among others demonstrate & becomes as a pattern of FACT, huh?
Funny thing those patterns, almost a ROADMAP, where did I hear that recently so coincidental & fascinating?
While trying to help people with genuine intent this cost me money a few times outside of the bounds of fair play with dealers causing me to refund the customer to avoid an argument after a correction performed & therefore I fired them instantly, however, you don't think I'm going to allow that to continue do you and without calculated, truthful, documented and focused pervasive anger to gain satisfaction for the full collective, well do you?
I have these things called my own moral code of values, I stand up and fight for others first & for what I believe is unfair, this industry and everyone I can that can't, it's just my nature now isn't it?
There is a reason I do all those ABS long coding's you see & that ABS long coding thing really pissed me off and that's 10 years ago!
Want to test my resolve I'm you could say UPSET?
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Yeah very different in this part of the world. When I worked for VW Audi group overseas, we did updates free of charge. Regardless of what works order a customer request for example oil change, we hooked the VAS5051B to the car system and required updates were automatically detected and done without the customer's notice or even before software related errors strike-all done free of charge. Oh I remember I live in a capitalist society now..
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Yeah very different in this part of the world. When I worked for VW Audi group overseas, we did updates free of charge. Regardless of what works order a customer request for example oil change, we hooked the VAS5051B to the car system and required updates were automatically detected and done without the customer's notice or even before software related errors strike-all done free of charge. Oh I remember I live in a capitalist society now..
Yeah the cars are far dirtier in EU & even more of them running much more nefarious, right?
I have had success with the hard start issue when cold.
Its been a long time coming, but it will be a Quattro winter!
I had a failed attempt on a ECU swap fall of 2019, so the A4 was parked for the winter.
Located another used ECU and had it installed last August.
Have had some -10c mornings and the A4 starts and runs great, HPFP noise is gone, no DTC's, performs like it should.
Just put the winters on, going to have some fun!
Its been a long time coming, but it will be a Quattro winter!
I had a failed attempt on a ECU swap fall of 2019, so the A4 was parked for the winter.
Located another used ECU and had it installed last August.
Have had some -10c mornings and the A4 starts and runs great, HPFP noise is gone, no DTC's, performs like it should.
Just put the winters on, going to have some fun!
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