Cannot find root cause for ABS, ESP and tire pressure warning

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nikolajhenningsen

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Hi

I have a Seat Leon mk2 from 2009. I have three alarms on my instrument panel. ABS, ESP and Tire pressure.

My initial idea was that the ABS sensor was faulty, so I tried to change it - no luck. I then tried to change the wheel bearing to rule out the magnetic strip on the wheel bearing back side - again no luck. I again went back to the ABS sensor and measured the resistance. Around 760 ohm. I googled to find a value for these sensors. I did not find something specific for the brand (Topran) but old random threads in different forums suggested the value to be in between 1000-2000 ohm. So I went back to the shop and got a replacement sensor. Measured this one and got the same value ~760 ohm.
For fun, I tried to exchange the ABS sensor with a 1000ohm resistance and the fault went away.

Does anybody know the resistance value of these sensors?

At this moment I'm a bit lost in terms of fixing the problem. I have not tried to buy a new sensor from another supplier. But is that the best way? Any ideas? The sensor is not cheap.

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Friday,10,August,2018,14:11:14:41737
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2 (x64)
Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ9R011550   License Plate: FH94173
Mileage: 222210km-138074mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1P (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 69 72 77

VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ9R011550   Mileage: 222210km-138074miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-021-BLS.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 056 AA    HW: 03G 906 021 AB
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  2898  
   Revision: --H08---    Serial number: SEX7Z0H531B0DT
   Coding: 0050071
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 66C7E6E351C4C474BD-8032

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CD    HW: 1K0 907 379 AD
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0120  
   Revision: 00H35001    
   Coding: 113B2012092300FB881004E9901900413400
   Shop #: WSC 13213 002 1048576
   VCID: 76E7B6A3C16434F40D-8022

1 Fault Found:
00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Right (G44) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 222214 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 16387
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 80
                    Count: 50432
                    Count: 60416
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 1536


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1P0 907 044 E
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 011 0702  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2E575EC3B9B44C3485-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000005844811
   Coding: E98A8F2F00041000431D00000000000000017F075C400000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 33614FB7529661DCEA-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1P0 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 300508 022  0601  
   Coding: 00056208
   Shop #: WSC 06402  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1P0 955 559   Labels: 1P0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0090  
   Coding: 00152622
   Shop #: WSC 06402  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 A    HW: 5N0 959 655 A
   Component: J234__A02 VW10 HI   1815  
   Revision: 19013000    Serial number: 0039DPB76SEU  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 3B7167977AC6A99C32-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6333FTS613511648 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6343FTS648331648 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6353ETS6NRIHTVNP 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6363ETS6NJQITVNP 

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BG    HW: 1K0 953 549 BG
   Component: J0527           752 0101  
   Coding: 0002042
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 78FBB89B0B7042841F-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           002 0010

4 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1P0 920 847 B
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VO3 0750  
   Coding: 0002101
   Shop #: WSC 00011 888 96745
   VCID: 316D45BFA88A53CC98-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0202  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2700K086040091
   Coding: E9807F460006020202
   Shop #: WSC 00114 204 84141
   VCID: 356571AF5CE27FECC4-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1P0 920 847 B
   Component: IMMO            VO3 0750  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 316D45BFA88A53CC98-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 L    HW: 1K0 959 793 P
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1517  
   Revision: 71009005    Serial number: 00000830388504
   Coding: 0004272
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 408B107B1320CA4467-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.077 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 356571AF5CE27FECC4-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 988000005283CC7F0006850560084F01207C00
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 0301DF7742B6115C3A-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 L    HW: 1K0 959 792 P
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1517  
   Revision: 71009005    Serial number: 00000766788508
   Coding: 0004272
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 418D157F182AC34C68-8014

1 Fault Found:
00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 195644 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1P1 035 186 B
   Component: Radio BVX           0006  
   Coding: 0042424
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 2B5157D78AA6391CA2-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 N    HW: 1K0 959 795 H
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1108  
   Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000003178037
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 3B7167977AC6A99C32-806E

1 Fault Found:
01813 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Rear Left (J388) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 195644 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 69: Trailer
Cannot be reached

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 N    HW: 1K0 959 794 H
   Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1108  
   Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000003180927
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 3C73648B7FC8AEA43B-8068

1 Fault Found:
01814 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Rear Right (J389) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 195644 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 5P0-862-335.lbl
   Part No SW: 5P0 862 335 B    HW: 5P0 862 335 B
   Component: FSE_2P5x        H26 0110  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: 00000005029798
   Coding: 0000555
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 326F4AB3AD8C68D4E1-8066

No fault code found.

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Hey.

You shouldn't measure MRE Wheel Speed sensor. It doesn't give much as the sensor isn't like older inductive ones and You maybeven damage it while measuring.

Are You sure wiring is ok? Topran is supplier and their packaging may contain anything.(Read: cheap shit)

Get a original or ATE or TRW sensor and You should be good with sensor.
 
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Thank you for the reply. I can try another sensor but as this is my second sensor I doubt it will make any difference? But I'll try.
I had another repair shop look at the problem. They changed the wiring from the sensor and into the car. No difference. To verify their work I traced back the wire into the car just behind the wheel well. I found that it had been soldered to the loom. Is that the way to do it? Should there not be a connector?
 
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A well soldered connection would be lower resistance than a contact connector, so soldering is arguably better.
 
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ok. The solder joint look very neat.
Given that the fault disappears when I replace the sensor with a 1k ohm resistor I would argue that the wiring is okay. What do you think?
Maybe best bet is a better quality sensor...
 
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