Hello forum.
Not sure if I need to post a full autoscan for this but I will do anyway, just for the sake of it
Car is a VW Passat 2.0 TDI DSG 2011 - Engine Code : CFFB , Gearbox : MSV
So here it is.
Now, the question is :
I have changed all 4 injectors on my car , and long story short , I need to know what are the tolerances for the Injection Quantity Deviation ?
If I make some logging I can see some figures like :
Loc. IDE00021 Engine speed /min 830
Loc. IDE00102 Control Module temperature °C 2
Loc. IDE00196 Engine oil temperature °C 84
Loc. IDE00351 Main injection: start of activation ° -1.98
Loc. IDE00352 Main injection: duration of activation µs 597.2
Loc. IDE00365 Injection amount deviation cylinder 1 mg/stroke -0.06
Loc. IDE00366 Injection amount deviation cylinder 2 mg/stroke -0.55
Loc. IDE00367 Injection amount deviation cylinder 3 mg/stroke 0.21
Loc. IDE00368 Injection amount deviation cylinder 4 mg/stroke 0.36
Loc. IDE00021 Engine speed /min 834
Loc. IDE00102 Control Module temperature °C 4
Loc. IDE00196 Engine oil temperature °C 86
Loc. IDE00351 Main injection: start of activation ° -1.98
Loc. IDE00352 Main injection: duration of activation µs 574.8
Loc. IDE00365 Injection amount deviation cylinder 1 mg/stroke -0.24
Loc. IDE00366 Injection amount deviation cylinder 2 mg/stroke -0.3
Loc. IDE00367 Injection amount deviation cylinder 3 mg/stroke -0.01
Loc. IDE00368 Injection amount deviation cylinder 4 mg/stroke 0.56
Cylinder 4 will always be on the positive side up to some values like 0.6-0.7 at idle, but as I drive it can go up to 1.7-1.9 or more.
Is this normal or not ?
First 3 injectors are from same series with maximum 5000km driven , but the 4th one seems to be a bit older with maybe 15000km on it.
Injectors are not refurbished, just used.
So on a Common Rail of this type, what would be the max / min Injection Quantity Deviation allowed ?
If the number 4 is out of spec (maybe I should have changed in pairs) then I would order 2 more injectors from same series and replace the number 3 and 4 again just to have them from same series.
Thanks in advance.
Not sure if I need to post a full autoscan for this but I will do anyway, just for the sake of it
Car is a VW Passat 2.0 TDI DSG 2011 - Engine Code : CFFB , Gearbox : MSV
So here it is.
Code:
Tuesday,29,November,2016,19:49:20:43630
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 16.8.3.1
Data version: 20161010 DS267.0
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VIN: xxxx License Plate:
Chassis Type: 3C (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 4F 52 53 56 57
61 62 69 72 77
VIN: xxx Mileage: 188300km-117004miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
57-TV Tuner -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB) Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 018 BG HW: 03L 907 309 N
Component: R4 2.0l TDI H24 9978
Revision: 47H24--- Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 001D0012042401080000
Shop #: WSC 30058 181 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018BG 003010
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018BG.rod
VCID: 70E5CD92AB097DC24C-8024
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 02E 300 054 J HW: 02E 927 770 AL
Component: GSG DSG AG6 511 2604
Revision: 05351112 Serial number: 00001101031170
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 99999 666 45725
VCID: 1D3BC426C41BA0AAB7-8048
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 614 109 N HW: 3AA 614 109 N
Component: J104 C2 450M VD88 0005
Revision: --H07--- Serial number: 00000003724336
Coding: 0007603
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 387535B24BF9E58244-806C
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 EA HW: 5K0 907 044 EA
Component: Climatronic H17 1010
Revision: 00003001
Coding: 0000000003
Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
VCID: 6ED9D3EAB13D6B325E-803A
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 3AA-937-087.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 937 087 A HW: 3AA 937 087 A
Component: BCM PQ47 H 413 0452
Revision: BB413001
Coding: 000000000000000000180080740081E443710088436D85606488C7200041
Shop #: WSC 05311 123 12345
VCID: 387535B28BF9E58244-806C
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AB 955 419 HW: 3AB 955 419 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 22011 10 0603
Coding: 00B795
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 270111 05 54 0403
Coding: 073028
No fault code found.
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 3AE-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 3AE 919 475 HW: 7N0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H04 0009
Revision: -------- Serial number: 77601102901863
Coding: 118102
Shop #: WSC 99999 102 209715
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW47X0000 001003
ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW4280000.rod
VCID: 7CFDE9A2F74109A2E0-8028
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 R HW: 5N0 959 655 R
Component: J234__101 VW10 HI 1918
Revision: 22014000 Serial number: 003K0P19JFFL
Coding: 0012337
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 4C9D79622F61792210-8018
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS617520031
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS635900061
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS61MP6M9KR
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6O6M5M9KR
Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 3C0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 3C9 953 501 BG HW: 5K0 953 569 T
Component: LENKS.MODUL 009 0136
Revision: FF010039 Serial number: 20110127200391
Coding: 1992250000
Shop #: WSC 00015 115 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
VCID: 6FE7CEEEB637623A55-803A
Multifunction steering wheel control module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D HW: 3C8 959 537 D Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TK6 H06 0022
Coding: E30000
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 920 880 A HW: 3AA 920 880 A
Component: KOMBI H02 0206
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 161F01
Shop #: WSC 05314 115 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
VCID: 31630896608334CA03-8064
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 G HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H41 1614
Revision: H41 Serial number: 020211F2000092
Coding: 462006
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 346D0182979101E268-8060
1 Fault Found:
00467 - TV Tuner (R78)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 18
Reset counter: 136
Mileage: 188229 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.11.29
Time: 00:58:30
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 HW: 3AA 959 433
Component: IMMO 043 0399
Revision: 00043000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Shop #: WSC 39108 001 1048576
VCID: 76E9FB8A016D53F296-8022
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 J
Component: ELV 029 0380
3C0905861J ELV 029 0380
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 D HW: 1T0 035 680 B
Component: RNS-MID H02 4020
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7H8151012
Coding: 06000402040000A80000
Shop #: WSC 00800 011 00002
VCID: 2F670EEE7EB7223A15-807A
1 Fault Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 51
Reset counter: 136
Mileage: 188224 km
Time Indication: 0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 959 701 A HW: 3C0 959 793 C
Component: TUER-SG FT 002 0529
Revision: 12110009 Serial number: 0002190955
Coding: 0200F7
Shop #: WSC 05311 115 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
VCID: 356B3C8694EB18EA5F-8060
Slave Driver:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 703 HW: 3C0 959 795 Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
Component: J388__TSG-HL 004 0407
Serial number: 00000001915109
Coding: 0000D0
1 Fault Found:
66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator
B11EC 54 [008] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 174
Mileage: 188229 km
Date: 2016.11.29
Time: 00:58:20
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 L HW: 5N1 909 148 G
Component: J500__APA-BS KL.310 0802
Revision: 1AH03729 Serial number: 00110140123901
Coding: 0000258
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3B7F2ABE7ACFCE9AA9-806E
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 3C0-959-433-46.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 HW: 3AA 959 433
Component: KSG PQ47 ELV 043 0631
Revision: 00043000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 0091020052830E76300095157C084F0B607901
Shop #: WSC 39108 001 1048576
VCID: 76E9FB8A016D53F296-8022
Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder n.mounted
Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted
Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520) Labels: 1K0-907-532.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 532 HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: EZE_2 H41 1614
Revision: H41 Serial number: 020211F2000092
Coding: 00000008
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 6FE7CEEEBE37623A55-803A
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AA 919 204 HW: 3AA 919 204
Component: Analoguhr 003 0003
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 959 702 A HW: 3C0 959 792 C
Component: TUER-SG BT 002 0529
Revision: 14110009 Serial number: 0002181460
Coding: 0200F6
Shop #: WSC 05311 115 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
VCID: 36693B8A89ED13F256-8062
Slave Passenger:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 704 HW: 3C0 959 794 Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
Component: J389__TSG-HR 004 0407
Serial number: 00000001921350
Coding: 0000D0
1 Fault Found:
66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator
B11EC 54 [008] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 174
Mileage: 188229 km
Date: 2016.11.29
Time: 00:58:18
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 E HW: 3AA 907 801 E
Component: J540 EPB4 VW-55183 0007
Revision: H18 Serial number: 00000000152805
Coding: 0022067
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 336F029E529F06DA71-8066
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 D HW: 1T0 035 680 B
Component: RNS-MID H02 4020
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7H8151012
Coding: 06000402040000A80000
Shop #: WSC 00800 011 00002
VCID: 2F670EEE7EB7223A15-807A
1 Fault Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 52
Reset counter: 136
Mileage: 188224 km
Time Indication: 0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 57: TV Tuner
Cannot be reached
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840) Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 534 HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Batt.regelung H41 1614
Serial number: 020211F2000092
Coding: 030B185A
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 71E3C896A80374CA43-8024
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 F HW: 1K0 915 181 A
Component: J367-BDM H07 0150
Serial number: 00000000009370452410
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels: 7N0-907-383.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 383 HW: 7N0 907 383
Component: Anhaenger H09 0101
Revision: 3I001002 Serial number: 00000150088582
Coding: 4106040000000000
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
VCID: 73EFC29ED21F46DAB1-8026
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 A HW: 5K0 035 730 A
Component: TELEFON H09 1020
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007660771495
Coding: 0200000000010110
Shop #: WSC 00748 204 97393
ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01009
ROD: UHVNA.rod
VCID: 234FF2DE2A7F965A81-8076
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:47)--------------------------Now, the question is :
I have changed all 4 injectors on my car , and long story short , I need to know what are the tolerances for the Injection Quantity Deviation ?
If I make some logging I can see some figures like :
Loc. IDE00021 Engine speed /min 830
Loc. IDE00102 Control Module temperature °C 2
Loc. IDE00196 Engine oil temperature °C 84
Loc. IDE00351 Main injection: start of activation ° -1.98
Loc. IDE00352 Main injection: duration of activation µs 597.2
Loc. IDE00365 Injection amount deviation cylinder 1 mg/stroke -0.06
Loc. IDE00366 Injection amount deviation cylinder 2 mg/stroke -0.55
Loc. IDE00367 Injection amount deviation cylinder 3 mg/stroke 0.21
Loc. IDE00368 Injection amount deviation cylinder 4 mg/stroke 0.36
Loc. IDE00021 Engine speed /min 834
Loc. IDE00102 Control Module temperature °C 4
Loc. IDE00196 Engine oil temperature °C 86
Loc. IDE00351 Main injection: start of activation ° -1.98
Loc. IDE00352 Main injection: duration of activation µs 574.8
Loc. IDE00365 Injection amount deviation cylinder 1 mg/stroke -0.24
Loc. IDE00366 Injection amount deviation cylinder 2 mg/stroke -0.3
Loc. IDE00367 Injection amount deviation cylinder 3 mg/stroke -0.01
Loc. IDE00368 Injection amount deviation cylinder 4 mg/stroke 0.56
Cylinder 4 will always be on the positive side up to some values like 0.6-0.7 at idle, but as I drive it can go up to 1.7-1.9 or more.
Is this normal or not ?
First 3 injectors are from same series with maximum 5000km driven , but the 4th one seems to be a bit older with maybe 15000km on it.
Injectors are not refurbished, just used.
So on a Common Rail of this type, what would be the max / min Injection Quantity Deviation allowed ?
If the number 4 is out of spec (maybe I should have changed in pairs) then I would order 2 more injectors from same series and replace the number 3 and 4 again just to have them from same series.
Thanks in advance.
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