Level control bleeding help for 2005 Bentley CGT

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I am trying to discharge the front air dampers (to replace them of course) and following this:
https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?1996-Level-Control-Bleeding-Charging

when performing step:
[Security Access-16], [Login-11] or [Coding-II]
[08367]

I get (in [Security Access-16]):
Security access error
Controller refused the key
Error 35: invalid key
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If I try it in [Coding-II]:
VCDS: Login invalid
Login code not accepted by controller
...
Error 31 Request out of range.
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If I still try 0x34-04-021, I get:
ERROR: Group 021 not available
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Unfortunately the factory manual (erwin) says only:
Using the Vehicle tester follow instructions to discharge the air supply.
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and has no security codes/anything else. So I'm assuming the security code is incorrect. Any ideas what is the correct code or procedure?


Code: 
Sunday,13,January,2019,17:02:40:35753
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: Bestiale

VIN: SCBCR63W25C025822   License Plate: AFTER READINESS 2019.01.13 1702
Mileage: 82190km-51070mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 3W (3W - Bentley Continental (2004 > 2007))
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 23 26 28 34 36
          37 38 46 47 53 54 57 65 66 68 69 6C 71 75 76 77
 
VIN: SCBCR63W25C025822   Mileage: 82190km-51070miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 07C-906-018-BEB1.clb
   Part No: 07C 906 018 AF
   Component: BY-6.0L-TT      G  ª6503  
   Revision: 34ÿTT       Serial number:  000-00021.09.
   Coding: 0000173
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 699A4E3B41F24B0262-513C

3 Faults Found:
18331 - Please Check DTC Memory of ECU Number 2 
            P1923 - 008 - 
18322 - Pressure Sensor for Brake Boost (G294) 
            P1914 - 008 - Implausible Signal
16928 - Sensor 1 for Exhaust Temp Bank 1 (G235) 
            P0544 - 001 - Circuit Malfunction
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09E-927-156.lbl
   Part No SW: 09E 927 760 C    HW: GS1 904 1
   Component: AG6 09E 6.0L W12TT  1903  
   Coding: 0000101
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 302CE35FA2A8FACA65-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3W0-614-517-V1.lbl
   Part No: 3W0 614 517 D
   Component: ESP 5.7 4WD     H01 0021  
   Coding: 0007878
   Shop #: WSC 03233 000 00000
   VCID: 3620D54740CCD4FA3F-51CE

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
   Part No SW: 3D0 909 135 R    HW: 5WK 470 26
   Component: 0R Kessy            6610  
   Revision: 66105312    Serial number: VWZ3Z0D7261018
   Coding: 0139501
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 3424EF4F56B0C6EA01-5160

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: ELV                 XXXX

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: None
   Part No: 3W0 959 759 A
   Component:    CM Seat Pass.    0009  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 47DEA88337265D7254-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 3D0-035-00x-07.lbl
   Part No: 3W0 035 008 
   Component:    ZAB COCKPIT      0223  
   Coding: 0400325
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 6A98313744F4401A6B-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
   Part No: 3W0 907 040 B
   Component: Climatronic BY614   0030  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 302CE35FA2A8FACA65-5160

1 Fault Found:
01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71) 
            014 - Defective

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3D0-937-049-V1.clb
   Part No: 3D0 937 049 H
   Component: STG.Bordnetz        5101  
   Coding: 0000107
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 2F2EE023BF96E5327C-5160

1 Fault Found:
00907 - Intervention load Management 
            000 -  - 

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Address 11: Engine II        Labels: 07C-906-018-BEB2.clb
   Part No: 07C 906 018 AF
   Component: BY-6.0L-TT      G  ª6503  
   Revision: 44ÿTT       Serial number:  000-00021.09.
   Coding: 0000173
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 699A4E3B41F24B0262-513C

1 Fault Found:
19473 - Valve for Exhaust Flap 1 (N321) 
            P3017 - 001 - Short to Plus

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 601 E
   Component: 0P Airbag 8.4E+ H10 0936  
   Coding: 0012368
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 2502020BED6AAF6286-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 3D0-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 953 549 D
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul     3401  
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 2E10FD27B89CEC3A77-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3Wx-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 3W0 920 841 
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT RB8 0520  
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 03233 104 61008
   VCID: 72A829576C2488DAD3-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<>CAN      0101  
   Coding: 0000006
   Shop #: WSC 03233 104 61008
   VCID: 70AC235F6228BACA25-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 3D0-907-553-V1.clb
   Part No: 3W0 907 553 
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C1V0 7014  
   Coding: 0015500
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 77BE18430746EDF2E4-5160

2 Faults Found:
01575 - Control Switched Off 
            000 -  - 
01583 - Leak in System Detected 
            000 -  - 

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No: 3W0 959 760 A
   Component:    CM Seat Driver   0008  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 3FCEB0636FF615B2EC-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: None
   Part No: 3W0 919 887 A
   Component:    NAVIGATION       0168  
   Coding: 0400000
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 45C2A28B0D2A4F62A6-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: None
   Part No: 3W0 907 135 C
   Component: Dachmodul           0703  
   Coding: 0000157
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 3620D54740CCD4FA3F-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3D0-959-933.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 959 933 F
   Component: 1X HSG              0101  
   Coding: 0000032
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 3326EC5353BEC1D218-4B1E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3W1 959 701 
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0702

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3W1 959 702 
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0702

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3W8 959 703 A
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 1002

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 3W3 959 704 
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0702

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 7L0 907 719 
   Component:    Neigungssensor   0020

1 Fault Found:
01503 - Bulb for 3rd Brake Light (M25) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 7Lx-035-4xx-47.lbl
   Part No: 3W0 035 456 C
   Component: 12K-AUDIOVERST      4121  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3424EF4F56B0C6EA01-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3W0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3W0 907 801 B    HW: 3W0 907 801 B
   Component: EPB  BC6HX23    HC6 X230  
   Coding: 0022401
   Shop #: WSC 03233 104 61008
   VCID: 3522D24B5DCADFE236-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 54: Rear Spoiler        Labels: 1C0-959-733.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 733 H
   Component: Heckspoiler         0002  
   VCID: 302CE35FF2A8FACA65-51CE

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: None
   Part No: 3D0 907 273 D
   Component: Reifendruckueberw.  0025  
   Coding: 0280340
   Shop #: WSC 00083 000 00000
   VCID: 271E08039766BD72B4-5160

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective - MIL ON

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Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 3Wx-955-023.clb
   Part No: 3W1 955 023 C
   Component: Wischermodul       ª0323  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 725 65552
   VCID: 3620D54740CCD4FA3F-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 71: Battery Charger        Labels: 3D0-915-181.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 915 181 C
   Component: Batteriemanagement  2700  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 23061C13E35E5152E8-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 3W0 919 283 
   Component: 02 Einparkhilfe     0203  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7AB801773454F09A9B-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: None
   Part No: 3W0 035 729 K
   Component: Telefon             0252  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3FCEB0636FF615B2EC-5160

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 07:42, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V. VIgn 0.0V)------
 
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Hi Grigor,

You may have this resolved already but SA (or Login) 08367 is correct for this module. I have encountered A8s that won't accept 31564 until you firstly use 08367 but not the other way around. If the car is still at the shop I suppose you could confirm 31564 is accepted (which is for Adaptation not Basic Settings) just to see if the module is being fussy.
 
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Hi,

I would like to add a few thoughts here...

- Make sure the system is fault free before attempting to enter in a Security Access code, either the one for the Basic Settings or Adaptations.

- Verify Level control system pressure in the Measuring Value Block group [006], field 2 should be at least 4-6bar (6-10bar is ideal)
(They make compressor rebuild kits, some under $50 - Done this many times)

- If you still can not get the controller to accept the Security Access codes, switch off the ignition for a period of time, (10 min or so) and try again.



Hope this helps,

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In addition to all the fine aforementioned tips, I would say that leaving key on with battery charger, engine not running & for 10 minutes may also allow a security access. Additionally some modules will react more receptive to an 83 or 86 mode session for login accepted.
 
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So the problem was there was a fault: level control is off duh!

Anyway, after I switched off the jack mode, the code was accepted right away and worked perfectly. Thanks for the help!

By the way I found one error in the tooltip in the pic below, the values are reversed:
0 means system is active
1 means it's inactive.

What is the proper way to submit this issue to the awesome guys at Ross-tech? :)

P.S. and yeah, any time you have to leave the ignition on for more than 2 minutes, it's highly recommended to connect the battery maintainer.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ap4o2XTLsCbyiLg8gdLWsgOKC0qEMg
 
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Hello,

Anyway, after I switched off the jack mode, the code was accepted right away and worked perfectly. Thanks for the help!
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Thanks for the feedback! Most of these level control systems will allow you to drive off the Jack Mode too. Usually it takes a few moments in a parking lot road test to do this, just in case someone did not know that, ;)


P.S. and yeah, any time you have to leave the ignition on for more than 2 minutes, it's highly recommended to connect the battery maintainer.
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And yes! good point, the Bentley vehicles love to eat batteries, so much that they have now added an integrated charger in the boot lid on the newer GTs. :facepalm:


What is the proper way to submit this issue to the awesome guys at Ross-tech?
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- The factory repair manual should have the prerequisites required when working with these vehicles. However I can add these to the forum post, would not hurt to have them there for the next person ;)

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?1996-Level-Control-Bleeding-Charging


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DrPeter said:
Hello,
- The factory repair manual should have the prerequisites required when working with these vehicles. However I can add these to the forum post, would not hurt to have them there for the next person ;)

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?1996-Level-Control-Bleeding-Charging
drpeter
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Actually I meant that the tooltip in VCDS is incorrect and should be changed:

By the way I found one error in the tooltip in the pic below, the values are reversed, here are the correct values:
0 means system is active
1 means it's inactive.

Here is where the error is:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ap4o2XTLsCbyiLg8gdLWsgOKC0qEMg

So I was asking what is the proper way to submit that as an idea for improvement to the next VCDS version?
 
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