2011 VW GTi - No Start Condition After Balance Shaft Replacement

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Engine pulled to replace balance shafts. Once installed back into car we find a no start condition. Checked all relays/fuses and seem good. Grounds all good.

Units gets power but somewhere they do not communicate. I suspect the can gateway is going south. Anybody run into this type of thing before? Any suggestions?

When turning key to on position there should be multiple lamps illuminated prior to starting which do not appear.

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VCDS Version: 23.11.0.0 (x64)  HEX-NET2 CB: 0.4643.5
Data version: 20231027 DS351.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
 
 
VIN: WVWGV7AJ9BW107371   License Plate:
 
 
Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 2E 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72 77
 
 
VIN: WVWGV7AJ9BWXXXXXX   Mileage: 181510km-112785miles
 
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 1010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: Malfunction 1010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached
 
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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached
 
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 BT    HW: 5K0 907 044 BT
   Component: Climatronic   H15 0709 
   Revision: 00003001   
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01006
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 7EAE979AC07F452A5DF-802A
 
3 Faults Found:
13701376 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [00001001] - -
          [Motorsteuergerät - kein Signal/Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:20
 
13701392 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [00001001] - -
          [Bremsensteuergerät - kein Signal/Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:20
 
13701936 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
          U1113 00 [00001001] - -
          [Steuergerät für Bordnetz - bitte Fehlerspeicher auslesen]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:20
 
 
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 L    HW: 1K0 937 087 L
   Component: BCM PQ35  H   104 0615 
   Revision: 00104 AE   
   Coding: 65180A3A80272AC40088008570000D0440050086534D8D60648020200040
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3A265B8A9C57A90A217-806E
 
9 Faults Found:
01800 - Light Switch (E1)
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:19
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:19
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)                     (wheel speed sensor)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:19
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:19
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:19
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
01316 - ABS Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:19
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:19
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
02395 - Parking Light Front Right (M3)
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:20
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
00153 - Windshield Wiper Motor;  Driver Side (V216)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:19
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
 
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Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached
 
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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 BC    HW: 5K0 953 549 E
   Component: Lenks.Modul   007 0080 
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90422JIK000XD Dataset Number: 5K0953507BC D005
   Coding: 108A140000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
   VCID: 72B6B3AA8427114A297-8026
 
   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542     HW: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H05 0010
   Serial number: 0027739            
   Coding: 820000
 
No fault code found.
 
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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5K6 920 871     HW: 5K6 920 871
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0406 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 370F00
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 71B4BCA681212A52D0D-8024
 
No fault code found.
 
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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530     HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway   H27 5603 
   Revision:   H27       Serial number: 230910F1000849
   Coding: E9817F0600161200000002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 6D8CA0D69199CEB2F45-8038
 
8 Faults Found:
00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:26:39
 
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:26:39
 
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:00:08
 
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:00:08
 
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:00:08
 
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:00:08
 
01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:00:08
 
00484 - Vehicle Position Recognition Control Module (J603)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:00:11
 
 
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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 919 879     HW: 5N0 919 879
   Component: Kompass         001 0001 
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1225223RAGTP06
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7EAE979ACCFF452A5DF-802A
 
1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:23
 
 
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H04 0406 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A86ABCAACF7D98A917-803E
 
No fault code found.
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 B    HW: 5N0 035 342 B
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0090 
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7667857606   
   Coding: 020000
   Shop #: WSC 03200 444 82880
   VCID: 261E9FFA78EF3DEA75F-8072
 
No fault code found.
 
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 B    HW: 5K0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2119 
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 31347CA64D216A5290D-8064
 
No fault code found.
 
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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached
 
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 B    HW: 5K0 959 702 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2119 
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 323673AA4827514AE97-8066
 
No fault code found.
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range
Cannot be reached
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 AC    HW: 1K0 035 180 AC
   Component: Radio Prem-8  H13 0043 
   Revision: -----26S    Serial number: VWZ4Z7K1159448
   Coding: 2500040004
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 6194CCE651419AD240D-8034
 
1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 181515 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.21
                    Time: 00:13:18
 
 
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 D    HW: 5K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101 
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 353C48B6B9494672CC5-8060
 
No fault code found.
 
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 D    HW: 5K0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101 
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 363E4FBAA44F4D6AC5F-8062
 
No fault code found.
 
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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 C    HW: 7P6 035 730 C
   Component: TELEFON       H05 0440 
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007668507710 Dataset Number: 7P6035730C  0001
   Coding: 0A00000000010100
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01007
   ROD: UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 323673AA44A7514AE97-8066
 
No fault code found.
 
End----(Elapsed Time: 01:09, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V)-----
 
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Does fuse SC3 get powered when you turn the ignition on?

Locate terminal housing T6z, below left headlight (item A in this drawing). Unplug it, ignition on, check T6z/2 and T6z/3 (male side) for voltages to ground. What are the two voltage values?
 
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Does fuse SC3 get powered when you turn the ignition on?

Locate terminal housing T6z, below left headlight (item A in this drawing). Unplug it, ignition on, check T6z/2 and T6z/3 (male side) for voltages to ground. What are the two voltage values?

SC3 Has power w/ign on.

T6z/2 & T6z/3 you want resistance or just voltage i.e red lead to pin other to ground? If voltage there is none with ign/on.
 
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SC3 is for the airbag module, so should be getting powered up via Terminal 15, good.

However, the lack of voltages for the CAN High and CAN Low at the T6z/2 and T6z/3 is very bad.

Just to be clear on what we are doing...ignition on, black lead of volt meter on ground, red lead on T6z/2 & T6z/3 and you should get 2 different voltage readings that add up to about 5V. Check both male and female sides of T6z/2 & T6z/3.

If you are getting 0.0V on the CAN High and CAN Low wiring, could those wires of gotten shorted to ground? Maybe ohm test from ground to T6z/2 & T6z/3 and see if you get a short.

I made this video a while back but never released it.... so today is the day...
 
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Fuse #2 in dash fuse panel was no good. Problem solved.

Thanks for the help everyone!
 
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