I figured I should make my first post on the ross tech forums a really good one. I have had my cable for years now and It has been one of the best investments I have ever made for my shop. Until now I have managed quite well with it but this Phaeton has me stumped and I really need some help up here.
I found this car on Kijiji in Manitoba and I ended up trading one of my Passat w8s for it because I am oh so broke
It was still a great deal in my eyes however, how often do you come across a Phaeton? Running or not. So I put in some batteries and found the keys did not work and all I could get was Immobil Active on the display. This was the first scan of the kessy module:
After clearing the faults these came back
these antenna fault codes stayed.
After some google searching I found this :
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic/37055-keyless-kessy-entry-problem-fixed-after-5-dollars-and-1-hour-o/
So I got out my handy dandy soldering iron and proceeded to replace the mosfets and resistors, no luck I still had the antenna faults. The only Phaeton wiring diagrams I can find are for the european/keyless access model that has the antennas but when I looked at the pinout on the connector, those wires were not there. It was at this point I found the box for the kessy module and realized it was brand new. Ok so it has not been coded correctly at the dealer!!!
It was at this point I contacted an ebay seller that does kessy key matching to see if I could get the SKC. He was very helpful and gave me some valuable tips that allowed me to properly code the module and get rid of the antenna faults. Once that was sorted out we were able to see that the kessy was synced to the car and all that needed to be done was program the keys to it.
So I sent away the kessy and keys to be matched and I waited. Buddy wasn't able to match the keys so he gave me the 5 digit pin instead 19798
When I got it back I could not log in with 19798, Then he gave me 65281 and that one did not work either. I have messed with workshop code and importer numbers in my Workshop Identification in VCDS program options and it still locks me out for extended periods with both login codes.
This is a scan I took today:
I found this car on Kijiji in Manitoba and I ended up trading one of my Passat w8s for it because I am oh so broke
It was still a great deal in my eyes however, how often do you come across a Phaeton? Running or not. So I put in some batteries and found the keys did not work and all I could get was Immobil Active on the display. This was the first scan of the kessy module:
Code:
Saturday,23,April,2016,11:41:45:51336
VCDS Version: Release 15.7.4 (x64) Running on Windows 7 x64
www.Ross-Tech.com
Punchbuggies Racing
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 3D0 909 137 G HW: 3D0 909 137 G
Component and/or Version: Kessy 6850
Software Coding: 0133356
Work Shop Code: WSC 17250 001 1048576
Additional Info: 4E0905852C ELV 1734
Additional Info: Geraet 1048576
VCID: 2B5F353389CDB866FB-512A
11 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 46
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00087 - Terminal 30 for Starting Relevant Consumers
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 46
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00576 - Terminal 15
006 - Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100110
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 46
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00185 - Control Circuit; Relay for Supply Voltage Terminal 15
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 46
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00165 - Switch for Transmission Position P/N
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 46
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
01176 - Key
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 14
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00179 - Access/Start Authorization Antenna; Drivers Side (R134)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 6
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00180 - Access/Start Authorization Antenna; Passenger Side (R135)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 6
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00181 - Access/Start Authorization Antenna (in Rear bumper) (R136)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 6
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00182 - Luggage Compartment Access/Start Authorization Antenna (R137)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 6
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00183 - Interior Access/Start Authorization Antenna 1 (R138)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 6
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14After clearing the faults these came back
Code:
Saturday,23,April,2016,11:49:31:51336
VCDS Version: Release 15.7.4 (x64) Running on Windows 7 x64
www.Ross-Tech.com
Punchbuggies Racing
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 3D0 909 137 G HW: 3D0 909 137 G
Component and/or Version: Kessy 6850
Software Coding: 0133356
Work Shop Code: WSC 17250 001 1048576
Additional Info: 4E0905852C ELV 1734
Additional Info: Geraet 1048576
VCID: 2B5F353389CDB866FB-512A
6 Faults Found:
01176 - Key
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00179 - Access/Start Authorization Antenna; Drivers Side (R134)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 6
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00180 - Access/Start Authorization Antenna; Passenger Side (R135)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 6
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00181 - Access/Start Authorization Antenna (in Rear bumper) (R136)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 6
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00182 - Luggage Compartment Access/Start Authorization Antenna (R137)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 6
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
00183 - Interior Access/Start Authorization Antenna 1 (R138)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 6
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14these antenna fault codes stayed.
After some google searching I found this :
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic/37055-keyless-kessy-entry-problem-fixed-after-5-dollars-and-1-hour-o/
So I got out my handy dandy soldering iron and proceeded to replace the mosfets and resistors, no luck I still had the antenna faults. The only Phaeton wiring diagrams I can find are for the european/keyless access model that has the antennas but when I looked at the pinout on the connector, those wires were not there. It was at this point I found the box for the kessy module and realized it was brand new. Ok so it has not been coded correctly at the dealer!!!
When I got it back I could not log in with 19798, Then he gave me 65281 and that one did not work either. I have messed with workshop code and importer numbers in my Workshop Identification in VCDS program options and it still locks me out for extended periods with both login codes.
This is a scan I took today:
Code:
Monday,23,May,2016,12:14:21:51336
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.4.1 (x64)
Data version: 20160216
www.Ross-Tech.com
Dealer/Shop Name: Punchbuggies
Workshop Code: 999 06167 006167
VIN: WVWAF63D648008387 License Plate:
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Chassis Type: 3D - VW Phaeton (2002 > 2006)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 23 27 28 29 2E
34 36 37 38 39 46 47 55 56 57 65 66 68 69 71 75 76 77
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
Part No SW: 3D0 909 137 G HW: 3D0 909 137 G
Component: Kessy 6850
Revision: 00H24072 Serial number: VWZ3Z0C5098367
Coding: 0000232
Shop #: WSC 17250 001 104857
VCID: 2B5F353389CDB866FB-512A
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX
1 Fault Found:
01176 - Key
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:14
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: 3D0-959-759.lbl
Part No: 3D0 959 759 B
Component: Sitzmemory D1 BF 1520
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
VCID: 356B134B5F89FE969D-5148
16 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
01971 - Adjuster for Seat Heating & Ventilation (E399)
009 - Open or Short to Ground
01900 - Passengers Seat Fore / Aft Adjusting Motor (V31)
007 - Short to Ground
01975 - Passengers Seat Height Adjustment Motor (V191)
007 - Short to Ground
01902 - Lumbar Support Fore / Aft Adjustment Motor (V230)
007 - Short to Ground
01904 - Passengers Backrest Adjusting Motor (V46)
007 - Short to Ground
01903 - Seat Tilt Adjustment Motor (V231)
007 - Short to Ground
01901 - Lumbar Support Height Adjustment Motor (V229)
007 - Short to Ground
00455 - Control Module for Access and Start Control; Comfort CAN (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication
00477 - Control Module; Display & Input; Comfort CAN; Front (J523)
004 - No Signal/Communication
01900 - Passengers Seat Fore / Aft Adjusting Motor (V31)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01975 - Passengers Seat Height Adjustment Motor (V191)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01902 - Lumbar Support Fore / Aft Adjustment Motor (V230)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01904 - Passengers Backrest Adjusting Motor (V46)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01903 - Seat Tilt Adjustment Motor (V231)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01901 - Lumbar Support Height Adjustment Motor (V229)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 3D0-907-040.lbl
Part No: 3D0 907 040 G
Component: Climatronic D1 1132
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2241D817FE07792E48-5148
12 Faults Found:
01273 - Fresh Air Blower (V2)
014 - Defective - Intermittent
00711 - Left Footwell Flap Positioning Motor (V108)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00026 - Motor for Distribution Flap; Right (V205)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00785 - Temp Sensor in Instrument Panel (G56)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
00053 - Rear Left Center Console Temperature Sensor (G311)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
00054 - Rear Right Center Console Temperature Sensor (G312)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
00926 - Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00455 - Control Module for Access and Start Control; Comfort CAN (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication
00477 - Control Module; Display & Input; Comfort CAN; Front (J523)
008 - Implausible Signal
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
004 - No Signal/Communication
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:
VCID: 55ABB3CBACC9DE967D-512A
Note: Excessive Comm Errors
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 3D0-953-549.lbl
Part No: 3D0 953 549 D
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 3401
Coding: 0000032
Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
VCID: 2E593C27BADFCD4EDC-512A
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation Labels:
VCID: 55ABB3CBACC9DE967D-512A
Note: Excessive Comm Errors
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System Labels: 7Lx-035-4xx-47.lbl
Part No: 3D0 035 456
Component: 08K-AUDIOVERST 0109
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 5EB9ACE78AFF1DCE2C-5148
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3D0 035 456
Component: 08K-AUDIOVERST 0109
No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 10:55)--------------------------
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There were no signs of water damage that I could see under the drivers side carpet so I am guessing it was minimal. I am guessing that the auto scan only picked up a few modules because I cannot turn on the ignition. Only some of them wake up when I push the brake pedal, like the seat, immo, and steering wheel
Norden VW had some trouble with one of the keys I got with the car so it's only good for unlocking the doors, but the other one works ok and all is good! Thanks everybody for all your help with this and I will be sure to post a new thread soon when it comes time for me to tackle the w12 kessy swap