Crafter 2008 new key coding!!!

incarvr6 · Jan 14, 2015

Hi! I wanted to know is Crafter supported for new key coding!?
It is 2008 Crafter where only key is lost, we got new key from dealer.
Van is parked in place that can't be accesed with recovery truck to get it to dealers.
I tryed to contact support regarding this case but did not get clear answer

I have available correct SKC.

Regards

Uwe · Jan 14, 2015

"Supported"? No, sorry. That doesn't necessarily mean it can't be done, but we certainly don't have a documented procedure for it.

-Uwe-

incarvr6 · Jan 14, 2015

Whell, what i ment is function available.
Ok then,in couple days when my VCDS gets delivered we will find out

Uwe · Jan 14, 2015

VCDS doesn't have a "Function" called "Match Keys" for any car. We have documented procedures for how to do it (assuming you have the requisite security code) cars up through Immo 3/4A. Most VW/Audi products were using Immo 4C by 2007, so I don't have very high hopes for this.

-Uwe-

incarvr6 · Jan 15, 2015

Hi! Now i have genuine VCDS and no good news! Still nothing login accepted but no adaptation available.
code:

Code:

Thursday,15,January,2015,15:21:09:19573
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0
Data version: 20141022


VIN: WV1ZZZ2EZ86019426   License Plate: 2


Chassis Type: 2E (2E - VW Crafter (LT3 / 2006 >))
Scan: 01 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 9A 9B 9C 9D 9E 9F A0 A1 A2 A3
          B0 B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6 C1
 
VIN: WV1ZZZ2EZ86019426   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 93: LT3 Immo        Labels: 2E0-905-865-93.clb
   Part No SW: 2E0 905 865 K    HW: 906 545 260 8
   Component: IMMO          0628  0639  
   Revision: 00628000    Serial number: VWZDZ0G1029493
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3365CE5352791DB9A29-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 99: LT3 Ign. Switch        Labels: None
   Part No HW: 9065452608
   Shop #: WSC 00117 555 00000
   ASAM Dataset: 67 256
   ROD: CRFT_EZS_67_256.rod (*)
   VCID: 55A150CB344D23896CD-8000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address B4: LT3 Central Elec.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 9064420600    HW: 9065450601
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: 33 771
   ROD: CRFT_EZE_33_771.rod (*)
   VCID: 7F0DD263E6B109D9161-802A

2 Faults Found:
90A3 - Outside Air Temperature Sensor (G17): Short to GND 
            Test Complete - Active/Stored
90D0 - Roof Electronics Control Module (J528): No communication 
            Test Complete - Active/Stored

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:52)--------------------------

Is there chance to sort it out?

Uwe · Jan 15, 2015

What do you have in Adaptation channel 001?

Also, what do you see in MVB 002 and 003?

-Uwe-

incarvr6 · Jan 15, 2015

On adaptation channel 001 before inputing SKC i have something like acces required, after inputing SKC it is error not available and it is sort of blinking on all channels!
I don't remember about MVB 002, 003.

Could it be the reasone that ignition is not on, and it is only possible code key if one working key is avalable?

Uwe · Jan 15, 2015

I'm not sure. As I said above, we don't have any procedures documented. It looks like it should be doable in Adaptation channel 001 with the correct security code, but what other conditions are necessary, I do not know.

-Uwe-

Dana · Jan 15, 2015

Crafter ESCL matching is nearly identical to the 3C Passat, when you tweak our procedure from conventional Address 25 to the Crafter Address 93, so I suspect the key matching would be as well... providing you have the PIN extracted.

If this vehicle doesn't start I don't think you have anything to lose and I'd try the VW Passat (3C) Immobilizer Key Matching procedure on this page.

incarvr6 · Jan 16, 2015

Hi! Thank you for replay!
Yes procedure is the same, but adaptation channel even after login with SKC is not available!
BTW is it possible to move this thread to more appropriate forum section?
Maybe other users have some experience with Crafter.

Dana · Jan 16, 2015

incarvr6 said:
BTW is it possible to move this thread to more appropriate forum section?

I agree however it doesn't look like you are registered for tech support. Did you purchase that VCDS interface brand new from one of our distributors ... or second hand/used from a private party?

incarvr6 · Jan 16, 2015

Second hand.

GaryM · Jan 16, 2015

To resister for technical support on a second-user cable, a $99 fee is payable first...

http://store.ross-tech.com/shop/VUDOT.html

incarvr6 · Jan 17, 2015

Yes i have readed that unfortionatly after purchase. In this way you are sort of killing second hand market. In my case it would cost allmost more then to bay new direct from reseller!
Ok what is advantage if it will be registred in my name, or what i lose if i don't?

GaryM · Jan 17, 2015

It effectively means that you won't get any official support from Ross-Tech either by email or on the forums if you have problems or want help doing something. Other users may be able to help you either on here in the non-restricted areas of the forum or on other car forums, but you will be unable to post or participate in the main forum areas on here until you're a registered user.

You are still eligible for any software updates, so actually using a genuine VCDS cable as an unregistered user won't affect you from that point of view.

incarvr6 · Jan 17, 2015

Thank You for replay! I have regrets that i got second hand. Now it will cost me all together as much as new one! You should realy rethink this policy! Maybe some day i will register!

Now back to topic, i have complited the car, by reading EZS eeprom and prgramming key transponder from ezs memory!!!
After one working key is available to switch ignition on i whas able to add second key to immo and code remote functions with VCDS !!!

So conclusion is that it is not possible to code new key if ther is not available working key!!!

Uwe · Jan 17, 2015

incarvr6 said:
Thank You for replay! I have regrets that i got second hand. Now it will cost me all together as much as new one! You should realy rethink this policy! Maybe some day i will register!

Why do you think that someone you have never spent one cent of money with owes you something?

incarvr6 said:
Now back to topic, i have complited the car, by reading EZS eeprom and prgramming key transponder from ezs memory!!!
After one working key is available to switch ignition on i whas able to add second key to immo and code remote functions with VCDS !!!

So conclusion is that it is not possible to code new key if ther is not available working key!!!

Thank you for the feeback. :thumbs:

Keep it up and maybe I'll give you access to the other parts of the forum without you having to register that system.

-Uwe-

Jetta 97 · Jan 17, 2015

incarvr6 said:
Thank You for replay! I have regrets that i got second hand. Now it will cost me all together as much as new one! You should realy rethink this policy! Maybe some day i will register!

Now back to topic, i have complited the car, by reading EZS eeprom and prgramming key transponder from ezs memory!!!
After one working key is available to switch ignition on i whas able to add second key to immo and code remote functions with VCDS !!!

So conclusion is that it is not possible to code new key if there is not available working key!!!

I think it can be done with all key lost. It is very different procedure to do it with all key lost and one key working.
Since Dana mention that this is kind of same as Passat 3C , I was able to adopt key on Passat 3C with all key lost. I can not tell 100% for sure since we do not have Crafter here.
Also when you login with SKC , you have to wait some amount of the time for Ch 01 become available.

incarvr6 · Jan 17, 2015

Jetta said:
I think it can be done with all key lost. It is very different procedure to do it with all key lost and one key working.
Since Dana mention that this is kind of same as Passat 3C , I was able to adopt key on Passat 3C with all key lost. I can not tell 100% for sure since we do not have Crafter here.
Also when you login with SKC , you have to wait some amount of the time for Ch 01 become available.

By meaning some amount of time, how long more than a minute?

Uwe · Jan 17, 2015

If the delay time "politic" is the same as it was in some cars from the mid 2000's era, it's probably 5 minutes.

-Uwe-

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