Installing RNS-510 in 2012 EOS that had a RNS-315

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Remember that you're old radionavi RNS315 had INBUILT bluetooth. The mic cords that are in your old C block are now going to your new BT module and are already connected in your new harness. So you have two options, to either take this new mic wire from the harness to the roof to the existing mic or do some soldering.

OK. That makes sense. I don't want to have to run that line up there so my preference is to use what is already up there, assuming the mic impedence is correct (which it should be). I do however want to be able to use the current 'talk to my NAV' option as well as to be able to use the mic for BT phone calls. I wonder if that means using the MIC OUT lines on the block C to go to the BT module are therefore going to be necessary to do both...

Those are CAN high and low which you need to connect to wires going to radio quadblock pins 9 and 10.

From those 10 wires from the BT connector in your new harness. 4 are to green block, 4 are to the main quadlock (+12v, GND and 2 CAN wires (twisted ones)) and 2 wires are going to roof mic.

Yes, after posting I went and looked at the current harness in the car and saw 2 twisted pair wires exactly the same color going to CAN high and low so that cemented in my mind what those 2 lines were. Everything you say now makes send with just one question - do I ADD the two new CAN high / low lines to the EXISTING lines that are there? Or do they REPLACE the two lines that are in the block D with the 'new' CAN lines? My thought is that both need to be present but I would like a second opinion so as not to screw something up.

Thanks!

Frank in Michigan
 
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OK. That makes sense. I don't want to have to run that line up there so my preference is to use what is already up there, assuming the mic impedence is correct (which it should be). I do however want to be able to use the current 'talk to my NAV' option as well as to be able to use the mic for BT phone calls. I wonder if that means using the MIC OUT lines on the block C to go to the BT module are therefore going to be necessary to do both...


Edit : Found it : https://www.my-gti.com/1234/volkswagen-rns-510-microphone-connection-for-voice-control

So the microphone is looped. You need to move the wires to pin 7 and 1 from old C block to the new one. And if I understand correctly what you're writing, you now need to connect the two mic wires from the BT module to pins MIC OUT + and MIC out - on the C block of RNS510. This makes a loop through the RNS 510 which enables the voice control to work.

Yes, after posting I went and looked at the current harness in the car and saw 2 twisted pair wires exactly the same color going to CAN high and low so that cemented in my mind what those 2 lines were. Everything you say now makes send with just one question - do I ADD the two new CAN high / low lines to the EXISTING lines that are there? Or do they REPLACE the two lines that are in the block D with the 'new' CAN lines? My thought is that both need to be present but I would like a second opinion so as not to screw something up.

Thanks!

Frank in Michigan

You ADD them to the existing ones. Best and only way to do it is to solder the new wires to the existing ones. Using crimps is BAD, especially the CAN network is very delicate so crimps are no go.

Same goes for +12 and Ground. You get more permanent and longer term installation this way.
 
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Edit : Found it : https://www.my-gti.com/1234/volkswagen-rns-510-microphone-connection-for-voice-control

So the microphone is looped. You need to move the wires to pin 7 and 1 from old C block to the new one. And if I understand correctly what you're writing, you now need to connect the two mic wires from the BT module to pins MIC OUT + and MIC out - on the C block of RNS510. This makes a loop through the RNS 510 which enables the voice control to work.

Yes - my thoughts exactly. (I found that same link late last night :-) )



You ADD them to the existing ones. Best and only way to do it is to solder the new wires to the existing ones. Using crimps is BAD, especially the CAN network is very delicate so crimps are no go.

Same goes for +12 and Ground. You get more permanent and longer term installation this way.

I never use crimps. I am an amateur radio operator and have worked with circuits for decades. Solder is the only way to go for permanent installation, along with shrink tubing and 3M 6133 electrical tape if needed...

Thanks. I have a project for this afternoon.

Then comes the next challenge of programming it :-)

Frank in Michigan
 
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Same goes for +12 and Ground. You get more permanent and longer term installation this way.

Sorry - I meant to ask in the last post - does your harness have the 12V positive lead from the 9w7 going to pin 15 or pin 16 in block D at the back of the radio?

My radio harness shows both being used but the diagram on the top of the radio doesn't really explain the difference (I am thinking maybe one is always hot, the other switched?)...

Thanks.

Frank in Michigan
 
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Pin 15, SAFE is constant 12v so don't connect there. Will drain your battery.
 
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So I got all the wiring done and got down to testing, but unfortunately like the previous retrofit steps, I have problems.

I did the required editing of 19 CAN Gateway to show the addition of 77 Telephone and saved it.

I then backed out, rebooted the NAV (just in case it was needed) and got back in. Sure enough module 77 was there. But that was the end of my euphoria.

Long story short - I cannot long edit or test anything in module 77. I cannot find any phones even though it say it is searching. My phone does not see VW PHONE.

When I try to long code, it fails with "coding rejected. Error 7F: Service not supported in active session". I also see it saying Recode Module Not Responding at the top of the long code page. The NAV 'sees' the phone (the PHONE button works) but when I try to reset back to factory settings (only option that is valid; rest are grayed out), it fails. The DIC shows options like search for phones but when I select it, it never finds my phone or any phone. At startup, it shows ADR6350 Connecting user but does nothing.

I tried to reboot the 9w7 by unplugging it for 30 seconds. No change.

I assume it has to be a programming or 9w7 issue - I feel all the wiring is wrong (well, the CAN wires were not marked but they were color coded so I matched them to the wires already on CAN hi/low Pin 18 to CAN HI).

Any suggestions are welcome. I have had it for tonight. Just totally bummed :-(

Thanks for any help.

Frank in Michigan


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VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
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Dealer/Shop Name: WSC
Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345

VIN: WVWFW7AH8CV013852   License Plate: 
Mileage: 47010km-29210mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AH-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 26 2B 2E 37 42 44 46 52
          55 56 62 63 65 72 73 77

VIN: WVWFW7AH8CV013852   Mileage: 47010km-29210miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
26-Auto Roof -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
63-Entry Assist,D -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
73-Entry Assist, P -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CBF)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CBF.clb
   Part No SW: 06J 997 028 S    HW: 06J 907 309 B
   Component: MED17.5.2        03 1503  
   Revision: PAH04---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 041C01081C070160
   Shop #: WSC 29135 001 1048576
   VCID: 46AD84123136D77462-8012

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 1000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 057 B    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2730  
   Revision: 05351113    Serial number: 00001109221263
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 90108
   VCID: 18111A6A2B029184C0-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 514B600A492300FD8A1306E9921B0041310000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 7BDB25E6FA745A9C4D-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 A    HW: 5K0 959 434 A
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 085 0802  
   Revision: 00085000    Serial number: 0155219723
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 58147 000 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP A01018
   ROD: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP.rod
   VCID: 334BCDC69AA452DCD5-8066

1 Fault Found:
1070343 - Bulb for Ignition/Starter Switch Illumination 
          B11A7 11 [008] - Short to Ground
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 31
                    Reset counter: 168
                    Mileage: 44275 km
                    Date: 2017.12.12
                    Time: 14:05:48


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 FE    HW: 5K0 907 044 FE
   Component: Climatronic   H18 1112  
   Revision: 00001004    
   Coding: 0800001002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 73CB0DC6DA2412DC15-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 Q    HW: 5K0 937 087 Q
   Component: BCM PQ35 H+   111 0148  
   Revision: BL111001    
   Coding: 67000A3BEA232A64808802C1740089444875610667200DB0E48460008040
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 43AB9D06C204E25C45-8016

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Q1 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 30091  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 131011 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0230CD

1 Fault Found:
01565 - Luggage Compartment Light (W3) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 128
                    Reset counter: 132
                    Mileage: 46487 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.06
                    Time: 16:58:58

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.25 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Q0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 919 475 A    HW: 1Q0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H02 0006  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32901125802063
   Coding: 30C101
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW4650000 001003
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW4650000.rod
   VCID: 364DF4D289D647F4F2-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1Q0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 655 B    HW: 1Q0 959 655 B
   Component: 20 Airbag VW8C      0210  
   Revision: 92011021    Serial number: 003G2000WCJ+  
   Coding: 0012848
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3B5BE5E67AF49A9C0D-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Q0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 005 0001

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00V4G         

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.000000500000000000ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000ÿ†6332SRB40DD24EA6Hÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 24EA6Hÿ†6342SRB40DD210960ÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 210960ÿ†6372URB405D21557%ÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 21557%ÿ†6382URB405D215FBEÿ

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: 215FBEÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 AR    HW: 5K0 953 569 E
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20111005101497
   Coding: 001A140000
   Shop #: WSC 03147 444 84551
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 7DDF2BFEEC6054AC73-8028

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H06 0022 
   Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1Q0 920 985 F    HW: 1Q0 920 985 F
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0407  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 171F01
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3957FFEEB8C8A88C1F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H41 1620  
   Revision:   H41       Serial number: 270911F2001033
   Coding: 355000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 3957FFEEB0C8A88C1F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0407  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6AF510A28DEED314A6-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 26: Auto Roof        Labels: 1Q0-959-255.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 255 F    HW: 1Q0 959 255 F
   Component: Verdecksteuergeraet 0854  
   Revision: 0033100Q    Serial number: 112640437     
   Coding: 0655366
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3B5BE5E67AF49A9C0D-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 A    HW: 5K0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H20 0230  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 11000220715001
   Coding: 4900000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 2E7DDCB271867F34BA-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7660960688    
   Coding: 020000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 29772FAE4068180C6F-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 J    HW: 3C0 035 684 G
   Component: RNS-MID       H02 4366  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M4185024
   Coding: 04010042010000A40000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2A75D0A2456E131466-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
   Component: NAR V10  8246 

1 Fault Found:
00859 - Line-Output; Front Right 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 180
                    Mileage: 47016 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 701 H    HW: 1Q0 959 701 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2151  
   Coding: 0021687
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3957FFEE70C8A88C1F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3449CEDA57AA55E4CC-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 702 H    HW: 1Q0 959 702 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2151  
   Coding: 0021942
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A55E0E275CEA39416-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 D    HW: 5M0 907 357 D
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0149  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1774803
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 354FF3DE5CD04CECFB-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8U0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0002  
   Coding: 00000027

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8U0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0002  
   Coding: 00000027

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 J    HW: 3C0 035 684 G
   Component: RNS-MID       H02 4366  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M4185024
   Coding: 04010042010000A40000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2A75D0A2456E131466-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
   Component: NAR V10  8246 

1 Fault Found:
00859 - Line-Output; Front Right 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 180
                    Mileage: 47016 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 811 B    HW: 1Q0 959 811 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         004 0605  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 1012544
   VCID: 354FF3DE5CD04CECFB-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 63: Entry Assist,D        Labels: 1Q0-959-790.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 790 A    HW: 1Q0 959 790 A
   Component: J572  EASYENTRY FS  0603  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number: 5DS008646-01--
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A55E0E275CEA39416-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-65.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 Q    HW: 5K0 937 087 Q
   Component: RDK           111 0821  
   Coding: 018705
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 43AB9D06C204E25C45-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 812 B    HW: 1Q0 959 812 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         004 0605  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 1012544
   VCID: 364DF4D241D647F4F2-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 73: Entry Assist, P        Labels: 1Q0-959-790.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 790 A    HW: 1Q0 959 790 A
   Component: J573  EASYENTRY BFS 0603  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number: 5DS008646-01--
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A55E0E275CEA39416-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 F    HW: 7P6 035 730 F
   Component: TELEFON       H09 2902  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007660545532
   Coding: 0A10040000010110
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA A01719
   ROD: UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 354FF3DE94D04CECFB-8060

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:37)--------------------------
 
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What color wires did you connect? And were? The radio is complaining about line out so please check the wiring again.

Also the CAN wires like you wrote, are color coded, so if you match the correct two tone coloring to same two tone colored wire in the radio, you should be good. At least there's no CAN bus errors visible so I presume it's correct.

You're close so don't give up yet :) I can take a look at the coding this evening when I get home.
 
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What color wires did you connect? And were? The radio is complaining about line out so please check the wiring again.

Also the CAN wires like you wrote, are color coded, so if you match the correct two tone coloring to same two tone colored wire in the radio, you should be good. At least there's no CAN bus errors visible so I presume it's correct.

You're close so don't give up yet :) I can take a look at the coding this evening when I get home.

Ha ha. Close but no cigar as they say....

Today I did double check the wiring. Just to get a second pair of eyes on it, here is what I have:

9w7 moduleRadio Module (green; C connector)
1+12VPin 15 (D connector)
2GRDPin 12 (D connector)
4LF Signal Out + Pin 11 Tele Left Audio Input +
5LF Signal Out - Pin 5 Tele Left Audio Input -
8RF Signal Out + Pin 12 Tele Right Audio Input +
9RF Signal Out - Pin 6 Tele Right Audio Input -
11Mic In + Pin 9 Mic Out +
12Mic In - Pin 4 Mic Out -
17Can HI Pin 9 (D connector)
18Can LOW Pin 10 (D connector)
- - Pin 1 Mic In - from ceiling
- -Pin 7 Mic In + from ceiling

I not only visually confirmed the above but also used a VOM to confirm closed circuit on each wire in case one of the crimps
were bad. The CAN wires are a twisted pair, orangish brown in color. One has a stripe and that was Can HI (pin 17) which I soldered to a
similar striped wire at the back of the radio. I assume if I got them reversed, it would not work at all, correct?

That fault you saw in the NAV module is one that I posted previously. For some reason it comes and goes but I ran a bunch of tests in
that module and hear audio from all speakers.

On thing I did notice is when I start up the TELE module, it does NOT say CAN under Comm Status for Protocol but rather UBS. I am not
sure if that makes a difference. The NAV does say CAN and since I connected the twisted pair to the CAN HI / LOW I wanted to bring that up.

Trying to save Long Code still gives me Coding Rejected. ERROR 7F Service not supported in active session and it does also hang VCDS.

Also Everytime I start the car, my DIC shows "ADR6350 Connection user". If I cancel it it comes back in about 5 minutes. Searching for phones
does nothing.

Any suggestions are appreciated as usual.

Thanks.

Frank in Michigan

Code:
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VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: WSC
Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345

VIN: WVWFW7AH8CV013852   License Plate: 
Mileage: 47130km-29285mi   Repair Order: 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: AH-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 26 2B 2E 37 42 44 46 52
          55 56 62 63 65 72 73 77

VIN: WVWFW7AH8CV013852   Mileage: 47130km-29285miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
26-Auto Roof -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
63-Entry Assist,D -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
73-Entry Assist, P -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CBF)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CBF.clb
   Part No SW: 06J 997 028 S    HW: 06J 907 309 B
   Component: MED17.5.2        03 1503  
   Revision: PAH04---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 041C01081C070160
   Shop #: WSC 29135 001 1048576
   VCID: 46AD84123136D77462-8012

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 057 B    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2730  
   Revision: 05351113    Serial number: 00001109221263
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 90108
   VCID: 18111A6A2B029184C0-804C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 514B600A492300FD8A1306E9921B0041310000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 7BDB25E6FA745A9C4D-802E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 A    HW: 5K0 959 434 A
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 085 0802  
   Revision: 00085000    Serial number: 0155219723
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 58147 000 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP A01018
   ROD: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP.rod
   VCID: 334BCDC69AA452DCD5-8066

1 Fault Found:
1070343 - Bulb for Ignition/Starter Switch Illumination 
          B11A7 11 [008] - Short to Ground
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 31
                    Reset counter: 168
                    Mileage: 44275 km
                    Date: 2017.12.12
                    Time: 14:05:48


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 FE    HW: 5K0 907 044 FE
   Component: Climatronic   H18 1112  
   Revision: 00001004    
   Coding: 0800001002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 73CB0DC6DA2412DC15-8026

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 Q    HW: 5K0 937 087 Q
   Component: BCM PQ35 H+   111 0148  
   Revision: BL111001    
   Coding: 67000A3BEA232A64808802C1740089444875610667200DB0E48460008040
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 43AB9D06C204E25C45-8016

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Q1 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 30091  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 131011 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0230CD

1 Fault Found:
01565 - Luggage Compartment Light (W3) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 128
                    Reset counter: 132
                    Mileage: 46487 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.06
                    Time: 16:58:58

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.25 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Q0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 919 475 A    HW: 1Q0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H02 0006  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32901125802063
   Coding: 30C101
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW4650000 001003
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW4650000.rod
   VCID: 364DF4D289D647F4F2-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1Q0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 655 B    HW: 1Q0 959 655 B
   Component: 20 Airbag VW8C      0210  
   Revision: 92011021    Serial number: 003G2000WCJ+  
   Coding: 0012848
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3B5BE5E67AF49A9C0D-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Q0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 005 0001

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00V4G         

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.000000500000000000ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000ÿ†6332SRB40DD24EA6Hÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 24EA6Hÿ†6342SRB40DD210960ÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 210960ÿ†6372URB405D21557%ÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 21557%ÿ†6382URB405D215FBEÿ

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: 215FBEÿ

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 AR    HW: 5K0 953 569 E
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20111005101497
   Coding: 001A140000
   Shop #: WSC 03147 444 84551
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 7DDF2BFEEC6054AC73-8028

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H06 0022 
   Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1Q0 920 985 F    HW: 1Q0 920 985 F
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0407  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 171F01
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3957FFEEB8C8A88C1F-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H41 1620  
   Revision:   H41       Serial number: 270911F2001033
   Coding: 355000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 3957FFEEB0C8A88C1F-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0407  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6AF510A28DEED314A6-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 26: Auto Roof        Labels: 1Q0-959-255.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 255 F    HW: 1Q0 959 255 F
   Component: Verdecksteuergeraet 0854  
   Revision: 0033100Q    Serial number: 112640437     
   Coding: 0655366
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3B5BE5E67AF49A9C0D-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 A    HW: 5K0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H20 0230  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 11000220715001
   Coding: 4900000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 2E7DDCB271867F34BA-807A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7660960688    
   Coding: 020000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 29772FAE4068180C6F-807C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 J    HW: 3C0 035 684 G
   Component: RNS-MID       H02 4366  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M4185024
   Coding: 04010042010000A40000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2A75D0A2456E131466-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
   Component: NAR V10  8246 

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 701 H    HW: 1Q0 959 701 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2151  
   Coding: 0021687
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3957FFEE70C8A88C1F-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3449CEDA57AA55E4CC-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 702 H    HW: 1Q0 959 702 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2151  
   Coding: 0021942
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A55E0E275CEA39416-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 D    HW: 5M0 907 357 D
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0149  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1774803
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 354FF3DE5CD04CECFB-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8U0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0002  
   Coding: 00000027

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8U0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0002  
   Coding: 00000027

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 J    HW: 3C0 035 684 G
   Component: RNS-MID       H02 4366  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M4185024
   Coding: 04010042010000A40000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2A75D0A2456E131466-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
   Component: NAR V10  8246 

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 811 B    HW: 1Q0 959 811 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         004 0605  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 1012544
   VCID: 354FF3DE5CD04CECFB-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 63: Entry Assist,D        Labels: 1Q0-959-790.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 790 A    HW: 1Q0 959 790 A
   Component: J572  EASYENTRY FS  0603  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number: 5DS008646-01--
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A55E0E275CEA39416-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-65.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 Q    HW: 5K0 937 087 Q
   Component: RDK           111 0821  
   Coding: 018705
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 43AB9D06C204E25C45-8016

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 812 B    HW: 1Q0 959 812 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         004 0605  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 1012544
   VCID: 364DF4D241D647F4F2-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 73: Entry Assist, P        Labels: 1Q0-959-790.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 790 A    HW: 1Q0 959 790 A
   Component: J573  EASYENTRY BFS 0603  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number: 5DS008646-01--
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A55E0E275CEA39416-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 F    HW: 7P6 035 730 F
   Component: TELEFON       H09 2902  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007660545532
   Coding: 0A10040000010110
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA A01719
   ROD: UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 354FF3DE94D04CECFB-8060

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:34)--------------------------
 
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Frank, I tried to make your pinout in the post above more readable. You can click Edit on your own post to see how I did it. Hopefully, I didn't butcher your data in the process.

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Frank, I tried to make your pinout in the post above more readable. You can click Edit on your own post to see how I did it. Hopefully, I didn't butcher your data in the process.

-Uwe-

Thank you Uwe. That looks great. I did make a minor change.

Now only if someone could figure out why it is not working...

I am wondering if maybe the 9w7 is bad or 'coded' in such a way that only a dealer can make a change to get it to work...

Frank in Michigan
 
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I did some digging up on the error message you're receiving and found this :

http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?2196-service-not-supported-in-active-session/page2

Probably has nothing to do with the bluetooth module but the computer used with VCDS. Ross-Tech I think is the correct team to help with this issue.

What comes to the BT module. It looks to be correctly connected.

Have you tried to change the adaptation channels? The coding seems to be correct in your module so look at the adaptations. You can reset the connected phones, change BT visibility etc. from there.
 
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I did some digging up on the error message you're receiving and found this :

http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?2196-service-not-supported-in-active-session/page2

Probably has nothing to do with the bluetooth module but the computer used with VCDS. Ross-Tech I think is the correct team to help with this issue.

OK. I am using Windows 10 on my Sony laptop and do have the newest software...



What comes to the BT module. It looks to be correctly connected.

Have you tried to change the adaptation channels? The coding seems to be correct in your module so look at the adaptations. You can reset the connected phones, change BT visibility etc. from there.

OK on the wiring.

I do believe I tried some of the adaption channels with no luck. Will try again today. What is your thought on it saying UBS instead of CAN for the connection protocol?

And lets assume I did have CAN HI and LO backwards - I assume this would definitely show up as an error (or just not so the BT at all) right?

Thanks

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Are you sure it says UBS? It should be UDS as protocol and that should be correct. UDS is CAN.

And probably no BT at all if the wires would be backwards or single wire mode for CAN and that would show up as an error.

The post I linked has exactly the same issue as you but with different module, the person there solved his problem by digging up and older laptop with windows vista :)
 
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Are you sure it says UBS? It should be UDS as protocol and that should be correct. UDS is CAN.

And probably no BT at all if the wires would be backwards or single wire mode for CAN and that would show up as an error.

The post I linked has exactly the same issue as you but with different module, the person there solved his problem by digging up and older laptop with windows vista :)

Sorry for the delay in answering. I needed to take a day away from this. Depressed on its installation....

You are correct - UDS is what it has as the protocol. I mistyped it. I have also been reading a lot of forum threads and did find a person showing some VCDS screen shot of him coding a 9w7 and it shows the Protocol to be CAN. I am hoping this is my problem...

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/bluetooth-faq-for-vw-golf-jetta-jsw-9w2-9w3-9w7-modules/

His model number is different however. I also saw on a Ross Tech WIKI post MANY part number for the 9w3/9w7. Not sure if this means I may have the 'wrong' 9w7

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Telephone_Retrofitting


I will do what you suggested - my wife's laptop is WIN7 and I even have a very old XP laptop that I may try and start up.

Thanks

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You are correct - UDS is what it has as the protocol. I mistyped it. I have also been reading a lot of forum threads and did find a person showing some VCDS screen shot of him coding a 9w7 and it shows the Protocol to be CAN.
You have a newer module than the ones people have documented retrofit installations of in the past. The protocol is what it is...

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You have a newer module than the ones people have documented retrofit installations of in the past. The protocol is what it is...

-Uwe-

OK. Bummer. I was hoping that was my problem...

Thanks

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Sorry for the delay in answering. I needed to take a day away from this. Depressed on its installation....

You are correct - UDS is what it has as the protocol. I mistyped it. I have also been reading a lot of forum threads and did find a person showing some VCDS screen shot of him coding a 9w7 and it shows the Protocol to be CAN. I am hoping this is my problem...

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/bluetooth-faq-for-vw-golf-jetta-jsw-9w2-9w3-9w7-modules/

His model number is different however. I also saw on a Ross Tech WIKI post MANY part number for the 9w3/9w7. Not sure if this means I may have the 'wrong' 9w7

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Telephone_Retrofitting


I will do what you suggested - my wife's laptop is WIN7 and I even have a very old XP laptop that I may try and start up.

Thanks

Frank in Michigan


I tried the laptop with WIN7. Still getting errors. My XP laptop is dead/broken/gone. Ain't coming back. Recycle time.

Here are some more screen shots of what errors I get with various options while coding. The most interesting one was when I was trying Adaptation:




I also tried a different workshop code but it didn't work. Does the security have to be edited? For everything I tried, the module just won't accept it.





Here is the info from Advanced ID LOG:

Thursday,10,May,2018,13:52:18:37178
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWFW7AH8CV013852 License Plate:


Address 77: Telephone
Control Module Part Number: 7P6 035 730 F
Component and/or Version: TELEFON H09 2902
Software Coding: 0A10040000010110
Work Shop Code: WSC 01383
VCID: 354FF3DE94D04CECFB-8060

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
Serial number: 00007660545532
Identification: SJA-001
Revision: 1B001001
Date: 02.08.11
Manufacturer number: 0001
Test stand number: 2652
Flash Status
Programming Attempts(application): 0/1
Successful Attempts(application): 0/1
Programming Attempts(data): 1
Successful Attempts(data): 1
Programming Status: 00000000
Flash Date: 00.01.01
Flash Tool Code(data): 00000 000 00000
Software
BAP: 01.04.01
UDS: 01.02.14
Diag: 01.02.05
CAN: 04.02.03
TP 2.0: 01.02.0E
ISO15765: 01.02.15
OSEK-OS: 02.02.00
OSEK Net: 03.07.03
OSEK-Com: 02.02.00
Misc.
Hardware number: 7P6 035 730 F
Workshop System Name: J412
Equipment/PR Code: 0000000000000000
Dataset Number: 7P6035730F
Dataset Version: 0001
End of Line Equipment Level: ------------------
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA
ASAM Dataset Revision: A01719
VCDS Info:
VCID: 354FF3DE94D04CECFB-8060
Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
ROD: UHVNA.rod

See anything odd in the above? It says flash date is 00.01.01. Seems odd unless it means it has never been flashed since mfg.

Thanks for any suggestions

Frank in Michigan pulling hair out...
 
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Module looks good judging from the values.

Can you take a screenshot from your VCDS settings where the wsc and importer codes are set?
 
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Module looks good judging from the values.

Can you take a screenshot from your VCDS settings where the wsc and importer codes are set?

Sorry - I didn't get an email notificaiton about this post. Do you mean this screen:



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That looks ok as well.

Reason I asked for this was the error in one of the pictures complaining about invalid workshop data the module rejected. But those values were different from what you have on that picture.

Now I have to say that I do not know what is the problem with the BT module. Do you have a possibility to try out another module just to make sure that the BT module itself is not flawed?
 
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