2001 Beetle 2.0L cranks won't start

lloyd · Mar 11, 2018

engine cranks , won't start. readings of scan. coolant temp group 01 coolant temp G62 -40.C group 6 intake air temp G42 7.0 C. The car setting a day. Ambient temp 50F. Should both temp be close. ??? Group 6 engine speed G28 while cranking no change 0/min.
I replaced crank sensor by oil filter, coolant sensor 4 term by cyl head in plastic housing.
Still crank but no start. I scan and here is the reading.

Saturday,10,March,2018,14:33:41:51465
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AVH.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 06A 906 032 EB
Component and/or Version: 2.0l R4/2V G *3667
Software Coding: 00003
Work Shop Code: WSC 00066
VCID: 62CB1FB3EE86B8546E-5142
3 Faults Found:

16502 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62)
P0118 - 35-00 - Signal too High
16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42)
P0113 - 35-10 - Signal too High - Intermittent
16705 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
P0321 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal

Readiness: 0110 1101

I cleared codes. and now have coolant sensor G62 7.0 C and air temp 11.0C G42 and seen some reading from engine speed G28, but it didn't stay long during cranking.
Can I read fuel injectors pulse? what should the reading be? What group #? Is fuel pump pressure given? Can I read a cam sensor? Asking for help. Ross-tech is good scan tool but I'm not utilizing it to it's fullest. I need some guidance. Thanks for your help. Lloyd

Uwe · Mar 11, 2018

You have replaced the crankshaft position sensor, but you are still getting a fault code for it? Have you checked/tested/verified the wiring to it? Where did you get the sensor itself?

-Uwe-

iichel · Mar 11, 2018

I'd start with the errors it gives you before looking at the fuel pump pressures.
The G42 sensor is intermittent, so it could disappear and come as it pleases. the other two are permanent.
due to emissions, the engine can only consume fuel when a certain engine speed is reached by the starter.
did you clear the errors? do they come back?

i'd also have a look at fuses and wiring by WD and RTFB
basically JPPSG

Jack@European_Parts · Mar 11, 2018

Hello OP and welcome to the VCDS forum.

Please post full auto-scans.

I see you have a G28 code and a mix of high circuit codes related to temp sensors.

Does engine start with carb cleaner sprayed in intake to verify fuel vs spark condition?

Is ground enhancement TSB been performed on coil pack and for G28?

A review of the WD in RTFB is recommended for shared tracks or isolation of the components by unplugging & logging changes in the G28 output.
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Official_Factory_Repair_Information <<<<<<<<<< PRINT TO PDF!

Coolant maybe contaminated becoming an electrolyte that results in this type of DTC, in addition to possibly a bad ECT or coolant contamination across the sensor since shared for the ECU and Cluster. Also the color of the sensor for ECT should be green not black as per TSB of this old generation of AZG!

LOG G28 while cranking and parts shared DTC's unplugged for RPM verification!

G28 should be inspected for oil contamination that brings fragmented metal with oil & also being conductive to connector to create a corrupt pulse reading & by means as a wick from plain old age of blow by and over filling with oil or gasoline contaminated oil from running fat form IAT and ECT issues.

Smell sump stick for gas vapor odor!

Check intake TV for oil residue and pipe!

JPPSG is advised for process as is the WD section and PCV vapor PSI.

http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot

http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...gases-and-vacuum-amp-so-should-you!-Air-leaks!

http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...ead-wiring-diagrams-the-videos-(final-version)

lloyd · Mar 11, 2018

Thanks for the reply. In the first post above, is a scan after the 2 sensors replaced but "clear codes" was done after the above posted scan.
codes checked after cranking several times. no codes present, no run either. Will it post a code during cranking? Thanks Lloyd

lloyd · Mar 11, 2018

The crank sensor and coolant sensor not VW OEM.

Jack@European_Parts · Mar 11, 2018

Will it post a code during cranking?

Usually yup!

The crank sensor and coolant sensor not VW OEM.

Oh boy............

Is G28 seated fully and did you measure compared depth to reluctor?

lloyd · Mar 11, 2018

no did not measure, old crank sensor came out in pieces. It look like only one attachment bolt. oring, seat in hole. no adjustment to be made. Thanks for help.

lloyd · Mar 11, 2018

I just watched the viedo on posting scans. Here is the complete scan. Thanks Lloyd

Code:

Saturday,10,March,2018,14:33:41:51465
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


Mileage:    Repair Order: dan 1



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                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 06A-906-032-AVH.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 06A 906 032 EB
  Component and/or Version: 2.0l R4/2V      G  *3667
           Software Coding: 00003
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00066  
                      VCID: 62CB1FB3EE86B8546E-5142
3 Faults Found:

16502 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62) 
            P0118 - 35-00 - Signal too High
16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42) 
            P0113 - 35-10 - Signal too High - Intermittent
16705 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 
            P0321 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal

Readiness: 0110 1101

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Chassis Type: 1C - VW New Beetle (1998 > 2010)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 25 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75
 
   Mileage: 245870km-152776miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-AVH.lbl
   Part No: 06A 906 032 EB
   Component: 2.0l R4/2V      G  *3667  
   Coding: 00003
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 62CB1FB3EE86B8546E-5142

3 Faults Found:
16502 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62) 
            P0118 - 35-00 - Signal too High
16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42) 
            P0113 - 35-10 - Signal too High - Intermittent
16705 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 
            P0321 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01M-927-733.lbl
   Part No: 01M 927 733 JF
   Component: AG4 Getriebe 01M    4833  
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 7DF14CCF773867AC73-095E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 C
   Component: ABS FRONT MK60      0103  
   Coding: 0004097
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2A5BB7938636201466-5124

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 909 605 A
   Component: 25 AIRBAG VW5  0E   0004  
   Coding: 12853
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 356194EF0F887FECFB-4AEC

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1C0-920-xx0.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 920 906 
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V03  
   Coding: 03232
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 5EB32B43DAFE9CB44A-4B06

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: Ident
   Component: Nr. Wegfahrs.:VWZ5Z0Y9272217  
   Ident.-Nr. Wegfahrs.:VWZ5Z0Y9272217

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    V032  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 70EF65FB306A1AC4E8-4B06

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 959 799 AR
   Component: 7S Zentral-SG Komf. 0001  
   Coding: 00256
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 0E131B034A9E6C349A-4B06

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: Steuerger
   Component: t Fahr. antwortet nicht     

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1J2959801D
   Component: 7S Tõrsteuerger. BF0002r  

2 Faults Found:
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
            49-00 - No Communications
00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5) 
            35-00 -  - 

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Address 01: DTCs cleared

Jack@European_Parts · Mar 11, 2018

Get that suspect FOD G28 out of that engine or check ECU for water ingress and or harness/rodent damage

16705 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
P0321 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal

2001 Beetle 2.0L cranks won't start

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