2007 Passat with 2.5L 5-Cyl. Engine - ABS Coding?

Geoffzie · Sep 3, 2017

So, hypothetical question ...

Well, the transmission shifts fine ... hot or cold. So it looks like the TCM is fine. I may try the Jetta CANbus again now that I've resolved the transmission fault.

So, hypothetical question: If I tried switching to a 2008 Jetta CCM ... how easy would it be to switch BACK to the Passat CCM? ... I don't want to burn my bridges or lose invaluable or irretrievable coding. From what I've read, switching out the CCM in a B6 Passat is a REAL pain!

Once again, the parts are returnable ... so it wouldn't cost me anything (other than time to remove them) to obtain the parts.

Jetta 97 · Sep 4, 2017

I think your main problem is rest of the car still Passat and do not except ABS coding.

2010 Engine came with MED17 ECU and ABS mk60EC1, So I think only way to fix this is to go with MED17 ECU and ABS mk60EC1.
Only thing with this set up is that ABS mk60EC1 will be little trick to code it , as they code to platform of the car and VIN. But I am sure someone here will be able to get right coding.

Uwe · Sep 4, 2017

Jetta said:
Only thing with this set up is that ABS mk60EC1 will be little trick to code it , as they code to platform of the car and VIN. But I am sure someone here will be able to get right coding.

Not just the platform of the car and the VIN but lots of other details such as brake-booster size. MK60EC1 coding is a big mess.

-Uwe-

Geoffzie · Sep 4, 2017

Well, today I reinstalled the Jetta J533 CANbus ... then I cleared all the faults and modified some of the settings (Station Wagon instead of Sedan, etc). I then did an Auto-Scan and the only faults I had were:

1. Address 25: Immobilizer Cannot be reached (probably because it was looking for the Immo in the Passat Instrument cluster) Although in the Installation List under 25 - Immobilizer it says: "Status OK 0000" ... I thought that was odd.

2. Address 03: ABS Brakes 1 Fault Found: 00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 004 - No Signal/Communication (notice there doesn't appear to be any "Module incorrectly coded" fault ... does that mean that if not for the immobilizer ... the ABS might work?)

3. My previous radio "no satellite" codes

4. There's no "Address 6D: Trunk Elect." category ... not sure why, I'll have to check the CCM.

4. Notice also that it's now listed as a 1k (Jetta) chassis (instead of Passat 3C0) because of the Jetta CANbus. So now I show a Jetta 1k chassis, and a Jetta VIN number!

So, what if I purchased a used 2008 Jetta instrument cluster and mated it with parts from my old Passat instrument cluster to make a kind-of FrankensteinJettaPassat cluster ... with an Immo? ... hmmm! Doesn't matter if the Immo works, I've already got it disabled in the ECU.

Here's the last scan of today ...

Code:

Monday,04,September,2017,14:00:05:23114
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4401.4
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWBA71K78W315062   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWBA71K78W315062   Mileage: 225860km-140342miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CBT)       Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
   Part No SW: 07K 906 032 BJ    HW: 07K 906 032 Q
   Component: 2,5l R5/4V      G   1567  
   Revision: 1NH01---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H33N97Z2
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 72BED2CB78AA85375DE-8026

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 GJ    HW: 09G 927 750 GJ
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0833  
   Revision: 00H25000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000584
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 7F580BFF3BF8D85F220-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 64692 001 104857
   VCID: 73B0D7CF07B08C3F568-8026

1 Fault Found:
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 EB
   Component: Climatic PQ35   090 0505  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 688AB0A34E767FE7F3A-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 Q    HW: 3C0 937 049 Q
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H46 1501  
   Revision: 00H46000    Serial number: 00000005468122
   Coding: 008C0F0340041A00470A00000F00000000285D035C0000
   Shop #: WSC 05311 123 12345
   VCID: 372823DF5348201FAA0-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW461  012  0503  
   Coding: 00063445
   Shop #: WSC 05311  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3C0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 909 605 K    HW: 3C0 909 605 K
   Component: 0N AIRBAG VW8R  029 2521  
   Revision: 10029000    Serial number: 003A3P2W7PWA  
   Coding: 0012366
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: 2E0606BBAC12E1D7F96-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 959 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0002

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000032EPS

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.000000600000000000ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000ÿ†6332MSME0E716159Eÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 16159Eÿ†6342MSME105B60746ÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: B60746ÿ†6351HTS64IKQTM627ÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: QTM627ÿ†6361HTS6TLLE15C3Uÿ†63

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: E15C3Uÿ†63727TS63IK2T6C39ÿ†63

   Subsystem 9 - Serial number: 2T6C39ÿ†63827TS63IKEPNQ25ÿ

   Subsystem 10 - Serial number: EPNQ25ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW20.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 H    HW: 3C0 953 549 H
   Component: J0527               0015  
   Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 3C9953507R    
   Coding: 0102014
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 313C1DC7BD2CFE2FE44-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3C0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 920 970 R    HW: 3C0 920 970 R
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 4240  
   Revision: V0033000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0007205
   Shop #: WSC 01119 067 57207
   VCID: 333017CF4730CC3F968-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H10 0120  
   Revision:   H10       Serial number: 28001061171325
   Coding: 3F3F03400F2002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 2A0E0AAB90FA8DF725E-807E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 919 965 A    HW: 3C0 919 965 A
   Component: Kompass         001 0002  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1339817TQ3XP02
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2E0606BBAC12E1D7F96-807A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2801  
   Coding: 0001205
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 36362EDB5442D917B16-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D06 1701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 333017CF4730CC3F968-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 C    HW: 3C0 959 433 C
   Component:    KSG PQ46 RDK 041 0213  
   Revision: 00041000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 1B900E88D1032E521804141FF00A870E086C00
   Shop #: WSC 64713 001 104857
   VCID: 2A0E0AAB90FA8DF725E-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2801  
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 372823DF5348201FAA0-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 L    HW: 1K0 035 180 L
   Component: Radio DE2       016 0020  
   Revision: 00016000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7G2175822
   Coding: 0010400
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 290CF5A795FC86EF2C4-807C

2 Faults Found:
00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93) 
            011 - Open Circuit
02218 - Satellite Radio (R146) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 3C9 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2507  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 313C1DC7BD2CFE2FE44-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 3C9 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2507  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 323E12CBB82AC5379DE-8066

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:03, VBatt start/end: 13.5V/13.2V)-----------

NZDubNurd · Sep 5, 2017

That's a nice looking autoscan, considering how screwed up your car is

It's nearly as bad as mine!

A question for the general masses - are all MK60 units IMMO4A, and the MK60EC1 IMMO4C?

Geoffzie, suspect you may be able to trick it by making a franken-cluster, but MAKE sure the wiring pins are the same first :thumbs:

I know nothing about the Passat clusters, but I fitted the Golf R32 cluster innards into my Touran cluster housing - the outer case is different, but fits directly over matching shaped internals - I had to add some tactile switches, because the Golf uses buttons, and the Touran uses little knobs, but the tracks and holes were all there. Hope fully it's as easy for you!

Geoffzie · Sep 5, 2017

NZDubNurd, actually the scan really DOES reflect how the car runs ... GREAT! I've got about 5000 miles on it now ... and all of the issues seem to be resolved, and everything works as it should, EXCEPT ... the ABS! I guess that's what's so frustrating ... to be so close to the end ... and yet so far! It's been 8 months of "challenges"!

Although, to be honest, MOST of the challenges have been pre-existing issues with the car or engine: headliner, peeling paint from switches and knobs, broken springs, broken headlight, rusty hood and fenders, bad rear calipers, bad PCV, etc.

If I were to do this swap again (can you say NEVER!!!) ... there are so many shortcuts that I see NOW.

A few examples:

1. Make a wiring harness to incorporate ALL the wiring changes in ONE harness!
2. Re-do the ABS braking system ...while the engine and the transmission are OUT of the car!
3. Buy ALL of the Jetta parts needed from ONE car ... at ONE time!
4. etc, etc, etc ...

Ah, if I had known from the beginning ... what I know now!

Jetta 97 · Sep 5, 2017

Go to Installation list in 19-Can Gateway and uncheck 25- Immobilizer , then Save new coding and see what will happen.

Geoffzie · Sep 5, 2017

Actually, Jetta, 97 I had tried that ... but I was still getting the fault in Address 03: ABS Brakes: "00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 004 - No Signal/Communication". I would clear the fault, but it would just come right back.

Maybe I have to try again and do a complete driving cycle?

Geoffzie · Sep 5, 2017

By the way NZDubNurd, it's good to know that someone else has created a FrankenCluster!

Geoffzie · Sep 5, 2017

OK, so why even after I uncheck "Immobilizer" in the CANbus ... does "Address 25: Immobilizer" still show up in the Auto-Scan? Is there somewhere else that "Immobilizer" has to be unchecked?

When I unchecked "Parking Brake" ... that category disappeared from the VCDS scan.

Geoffzie · Sep 7, 2017

I think I've finally convinced the Passat ... that it's REALLY a Jetta now!

Good news and bad news ...

I purchased a used 2008 Jetta Mk5 Instrument Cluster (1K0-920-974-J) with the HighLine MFD. It was somewhat damaged (plastic lens was broken out) but I got it cheap ($32), and it's returnable. I just wanted to see what would happen if I just installed an entire Jetta Mk5 Instrument Cluster.

It worked! All the indicator lights; Turn Signals, High Beam, EPC, Check-Engine, Cruise, Tach, Speedo, and MFD seemed to work OK ... with the exception of the Temp. Guage and Gas Guage ... not sure if they were damaged (since the lens was broke) ... or there's a wiring issue. Also, the EPB light wouldn't work, obviously, the Jetta doesn't use an EPB ... I'll have to look at the wiring.

But the most important thing ... THE ABS WORKED!

I ran through all the basic settings for the ABS and Steering ... then I drove the car and the ESP light went out the first time I applied the brakes! The BAD news is, the MFD lit up with a message "Immobilizer Active!" ... and instead of the mileage showing in the MFD, there was a "SAFE" message at the bottom. Also, the clock was flashing off and on, although it worked.

I then tried using the rear printed circuit board from the Jetta cluster (that's where the Immo is located) with the Passat Instrument Cluster ... It bolted right up perfectly but ... NO worky! The MFD display was blank and the Airbag light would come on for the left turn signal! Obviously, VW decided to switch pins around just for the fun of it! (And I see no easy way to fix it)

Looks like the only way this is going to work (baring any unforeseen ideas to use the Passat cluster), is use the entire Jetta Mk5 Instrument Cluster ... but since it mounts somewhat different, and is a slightly different shape ... I'll have to do some modifying to make it look "factory".

Any ideas as to how to "fool" the Immo to turn off the warning in the MFD? The MFD is kind of useless with the warning there, and you can't get rid of it! Since the Immo was disabled in the ECU, the car starts and runs fine though.

Judging from the VCDS scan, I think I've finally convinced the Passat ... that it's REALLY a Jetta now!

I ran a VCDS scan, then cleared all the codes ... Here's what I was left with (Notice under Address 46: Central Conv .... for some reason it's looking for a "Convertible Top" and a "Trailer / Towing Sensor" ... not sure why?) ...

Code:

Thursday,07,September,2017,13:02:07:23114
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4401.4
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWBA71K78W315062   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWBA71K78W315062   Mileage: 247220km-153615miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CBT)       Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
   Part No SW: 07K 906 032 BJ    HW: 07K 906 032 Q
   Component: 2,5l R5/4V      G   1567  
   Revision: 1NH01---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H33N97Z2
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 72BED2CB78AA85375DE-8026

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0100

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 GJ    HW: 09G 927 750 GJ
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0833  
   Revision: 00H25000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000584
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 7F580BFF3BF8D85F220-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 64692 001 104857
   VCID: 73B0D7CF07B08C3F568-8026

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 EB
   Component: Climatic PQ35   090 0505  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 688AB0A34E767FE7F3A-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 Q    HW: 3C0 937 049 Q
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H46 1501  
   Revision: 00H46000    Serial number: 00000005468122
   Coding: 008C0F0340041A00470A00000F00000000285D035C0000
   Shop #: WSC 05311 123 12345
   VCID: 372823DF5348201FAA0-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW461  012  0503  
   Coding: 00063445
   Shop #: WSC 05311  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3C0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 909 605 K    HW: 3C0 909 605 K
   Component: 0N AIRBAG VW8R  029 2521  
   Revision: 10029000    Serial number: 003A3P2W7PWA  
   Coding: 0012366
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: 2E0606BBAC12E1D7F96-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 959 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0002

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000032EPS

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.000000600000000000ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000ÿ†6332MSME0E716159Eÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 16159Eÿ†6342MSME105B60746ÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: B60746ÿ†6351HTS64IKQTM627ÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: QTM627ÿ†6361HTS6TLLE15C3Uÿ†63

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: E15C3Uÿ†63727TS63IK2T6C39ÿ†63

   Subsystem 9 - Serial number: 2T6C39ÿ†63827TS63IKEPNQ25ÿ

   Subsystem 10 - Serial number: EPNQ25ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW20.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 H    HW: 3C0 953 549 H
   Component: J0527               0015  
   Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 3C9953507R    
   Coding: 0102014
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 313C1DC7BD2CFE2FE44-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 J    HW: 1K0 920 974 J
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1216  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GD24C0R0
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 03170 444 84404
   VCID: 353429D74944D20FB8C-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H10 0120  
   Revision:   H10       Serial number: 28001061171325
   Coding: 3F3F03400F2002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 2A0E0AAB90FA8DF725E-807E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 919 965 A    HW: 3C0 919 965 A
   Component: Kompass         001 0002  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1339817TQ3XP02
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2E0606BBAC12E1D7F96-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 J    HW: 1K0 920 974 J
   Component: IMMO            3HL 1216  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GD24C0R0
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 353429D74944D20FB8C-8060

1 Fault Found:
01176 - Key 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 235
                    Mileage: 247223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:55:53


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2801  
   Coding: 0001205
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 36362EDB5442D917B16-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D06 1701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 333017CF4730CC3F968-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 C    HW: 3C0 959 433 C
   Component:    KSG PQ46 RDK 041 0213  
   Revision: 00041000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 1B900E88D1032E5218041C1FF00A870E082800
   Shop #: WSC 64713 001 104857
   VCID: 2A0E0AAB90FA8DF725E-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

2 Faults Found:
00830 - Convertible Top Control Module (J256) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 235
                    Mileage: 247223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:57:05

01517 - Control Module for Trailer/Towing Sensor (J345) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 235
                    Mileage: 247223 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:57:05


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2801  
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 372823DF5348201FAA0-8062

No Fault Code Found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 L    HW: 1K0 035 180 L
   Component: Radio DE2       016 0020  
   Revision: 00016000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7G2175822
   Coding: 0010400
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 290CF5A795FC86EF2C4-807C

2 Faults Found:
00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93) 
            011 - Open Circuit
02218 - Satellite Radio (R146) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 3C9 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2507  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 313C1DC7BD2CFE2FE44-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 3C9 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2507  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 323E12CBB82AC5379DE-8066

No fault code found.

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NZDubNurd · Sep 7, 2017

An earlier cluster maybe? that replacement looks to be immo4C???

Code:

Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 J    HW: 1K0 920 974 J
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1216  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GD24C0R0
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 03170 444 84404
   VCID: 353429D74944D20FB8C-8060

No fault code found.

Earlier ones are more likely 4a, which is easier.

Also, a lower model OR earlier cluster may just have an immo light, and no MFD warning - you could just take the led out then :-) Hahaha!

Geoffzie · Sep 7, 2017

Keep in mind, the Immo in the Instrument cluster isn't connected to anything (it uses two wires) ... so the Immo warnings are all generated within the cluster because it sees no key. The Immo chip is in the rear printed circuit board, and normally, there are two wires that connect to the key reading coil which surrounds the ignition switch. None of that is present.

I could just have a key made, buy a used reading coil, connect it up, and seal it in a block of epoxy under the dash!

Any ideas as to why I'm getting the following two faults in the Central Conv. Module? ... and why is the date 2000.00.00? ...

2 Faults Found:
00830 - Convertible Top Control Module (J256)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 235
Mileage: 247223 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 12:57:05

01517 - Control Module for Trailer/Towing Sensor (J345)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 235
Mileage: 247223 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 12:57:05

NZDubNurd · Sep 8, 2017

I *think* the MFD warning is entirely because there is no Immo comms with your engine ECU (which is immo-off, yes?). Even with a key, you'd still get the warning???

IF you wanted, I think you could get an IMMO4A ECU and Cluster (preferably matching!), and with an EEprom reader, pull the BIN file from th ecu and get the immo SKC - you could then match your own keys! If you got mismatched ecu and cluster, you'd have to pull the SKC from both to be able to match one to the other.

If you got 2 keys, ecu and matching cluster all from one car, you could just swap your key blades with the new key ones, and it'll all ALREADY BE matched! :cool:

You'd need the immo reader coil though.

Simplest though - different clocks, smash or tape immo symbol

You can just leave it blinking too - no drama - then the MIL light can have company next time is awake. I'm pretty sure it'd work.

Next... How do you retrofit that convertible roof??? BIG>

NZDubNurd · Sep 8, 2017

PS:

I love these franken-Dub nerd projects - I should really finish mine though (prototype alloy fuel tank get a test fitting this weekend)!

Jetta 97 · Sep 8, 2017

NZDubNurd said:
I *think* the MFD warning is entirely because there is no Immo comms with your engine ECU (which is immo-off, yes?). Even with a key, you'd still get the warning???

No , if he has adopted key it will be OK, message will go away.

Geoffzie · Sep 8, 2017

I may just reinstall the Passat instrument cluster until I can figure this out. I would REALLY like to use a modified Passat cluster because the Jetta and Passat clusters are enough different that it would be a MAJOR pain to get the Jetta cluster to look "factory".

I DID find the immobilizer chip on the Jetta cluster back board (it's a Megamos EM4093-001 chip) ... and I found the place where it normally would go on the Passat cluster back board. But it would be a MAJOR soldering job to graft the Immo (and related smaller chips) onto the Passat board ... and THEN I don't even know if it would work (coding and programming?)

(I was going to post images of them, but apparently I can't)

At least I know the following now ...

1. The MK60 ABS pump WILL work with this car
2. The ABS pump is wired correctly
3. I know precisely why it wouldn't code (Immobilizer)
4. The ESP unit that I installed and wired is OK (I could turn the ESP off and on)

I'll have to ponder on this for a while.

Jetta 97 · Sep 8, 2017

Geoffzie said:
I DID find the immobilizer chip on the Jetta cluster back board (it's a Megamos EM4093-001 chip) ... and I found the place where it normally would go on the Passat cluster back board. But it would be a MAJOR soldering job to graft the Immo (and related smaller chips) onto the Passat board ... and THEN I don't even know if it would work (coding and programming?)

No it will not work ,
It is not just this ,main thing is Software , Passat and Jetta software is way to different.

I think your best options MED17 + ABS MK60EC1 from 2010 Passat .

Geoffzie · Sep 9, 2017

Honestly Jetta 97, I'd sell the car before I went through all THAT again! You want to buy my car and finish it?

Jetta 97 · Sep 9, 2017

Geoffzie said:
You want to buy my car and finish it?

No , thank you

2007 Passat with 2.5L 5-Cyl. Engine - ABS Coding?

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