Tiguan 2013 Bi-xenon retrofit (No AFS)

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Dear members,

I decided to retrofit my Tiguan with bi-xenon (No AFS). This is the third time I'm doing such retrofit, I've done one for my Golf V GTI and one for my golf MK6 GTI. Both of them went fine!

This time, I'm facing couple of problems...

I've followed this thread: http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?2183-Golf-MK6-Bi-Xenon-with-LED-DRL-and-AFS-retrofitted DRL's function properly but Xenons won't work. High beams either. I've run numerous tests with no luck. I'm using Kufatec adapters. Originally they came with no cable from pin 11 going to BCM pins 48,49 gold connector, but I've tried that version too. I've changed my BCM to a highline one. No luck....

I've also seen threads like this: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...012-Tiguan-OEM-bi-xenon-retrofit-(without-AFS that incorporate messing with pin changes on the BCM.

Which method is the right one?

What could I do?

My scan follows :
(I've also changed slip ring and steering wheel adding MFSW option. That works, but I didn't manage to fix G85 issue yet)

Code:
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VIN: WVGZZZ5NZDW043218   License Plate: 8554
Mileage: 117720km-73147mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 5N (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 4C 52 53 56 61 62 72 77
         

VIN: WVGZZZ5NZDW043218   Mileage: 117720km-73147miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: Not registered 0001
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 LE    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H28 4571  
   Revision: 41H28---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00190012040401080000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LE 003009
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LE.rod
   VCID: 78F43811C31E9081D1-802C

1 Fault Found:
4729 - Steering Effort Control Module 
          U0130 00 [039] - No Communications
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 117729 km
                    Date: 2017.05.01
                    Time: 03:39:56

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 59 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 27 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 960 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.180 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Limitation: accelerator pedal: 126.6 Nm
                    CAN status - engine control module-Bit 0: 0
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): status-Bit 0: 0
                    CAN status - transmission control module-Bit 0: 0
                    CAN status - brake control module 1-Bit 0: 0
                    CAN status - brake control module 2-Bit 0: 0
                    selected gear-Bit 0: 0

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 AR    HW: 5N0 614 109 AR
   Component: J104   C6 450M VD57 0006  
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000006258606
   Coding: 0037947
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7BFE271D3A28BB99BC-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 GJ    HW: 5K0 907 044 GJ
   Component: Climatronic   H19 1313  
   Revision: 00001004    
   Coding: 0010004003
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 79F23D15F8148989AE-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 T    HW: 5K0 937 087 T
   Component: BCM PQ35 H    021 0068  
   Revision: BK021001    
   Coding: 46180A38802502C040C000C0340089684B55AB88436D8160E484C7040041
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 468886E9F16A367193-8012

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N1 955 119     HW:              Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 08101  013 0204 
   Serial number: N1955119   °204!
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 051012 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 02304D

4 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 87
                    Mileage: 117729 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.05.01
                    Time: 03:39:58

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 87
                    Mileage: 117729 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.05.01
                    Time: 03:39:58

00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 87
                    Mileage: 117729 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.05.01
                    Time: 03:40:01

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

02895 - Supply Voltage for LED Module for DRL and Parking Light; Left 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 87
                    Mileage: 117729 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.05.01
                    Time: 03:40:01


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 AA    HW: 5N0 959 655 AA
   Component: J234__20J VW10 HI   2118  
   Revision: 24017000    Serial number: 003L7PLTU4Q.  
   Coding: 0012362
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7CFC24013F26BCA1B5-8028

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS661652712 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS670032702 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6P6IVBBKR 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6CUTADBKR 

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8X0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 8X0 953 501 Q    HW: 5K0 953 569 AP
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
   Revision: FF010018    Serial number: 20140409200806
   Coding: 108A140000
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00118
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS.rod
   VCID: 489488D1F37E200161-801C

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0033 
   Coding: 820000

1 Fault Found:
226839 - Turn Signal Switch 
          B1144 11 [009] - Short to Ground
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 87
                    Mileage: 117729 km
                    Date: 2017.05.01
                    Time: 03:39:56


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 883 A    HW: 5N0 920 883 A
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 111F00
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3260CA3965E2BAD12F-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AC    HW: 7N0 907 530 AC
   Component: J533  Gateway H48 1633  
   Revision:   H48       Serial number: 270912F2000492
   Coding: 356002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 71E20535A864C1C916-8024

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 87
                    Mileage: 117729 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.05.01
                    Time: 03:39:57

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 117729 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.05.01
                    Time: 03:39:57


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6AD012598DB2321157-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 F    HW: 3C0 959 793 B
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0503  
   Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0005716407
   Coding: 0200BC
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 3874F811839E508111-806C

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 F    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  008 1504 
   Serial number: 00000007278896      
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 N    HW: 5N1 909 148 G
   Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1101  
   Revision: 1AH03837    Serial number: 00122690267701
   Coding: 0000258
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3D7AE90564BC75A9C2-8068

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 87
                    Mileage: 117729 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.05.01
                    Time: 03:39:56

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    (no units): 4.0
                    Voltage: 12.10 V

02546 - Steering Limit Stop 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 87
                    Mileage: 117729 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.05.01
                    Time: 03:39:56


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 F    HW: 3C0 959 792 B
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0503  
   Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0005756361
   Coding: 0200BC
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 3972FD15B8944989EE-806C

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 F    HW: 3C0 959 795 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  008 1504 
   Serial number: 00000007283631      
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 H    HW: 3AA 907 801 H
   Component: J540 EPB4  VW-86594 0010  
   Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000511436
   Coding: 0026167
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3668F629418AA6F103-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 5ND 035 190 B    HW: 5ND 035 190 B
   Component: RCD510USBRVC  003 0003  
   Revision: -----001    Serial number: VWZ4Z3R8092332
   Coding: 0100042504000C
   Shop #: WSC 79107 123 12345
   VCID: 3B7EE71DBAA87B99FC-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AC
   Component: Batt.regelung H48 1633  
   Serial number: 270912F2000492
   Coding: 030F1859
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 71E20535A864C1C916-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180 
   Serial number: 00000000008900271979

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J738)       Labels: 1K8-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 035 730 D    HW: 1K8 035 730 D
   Component: Telefon       H08 6900  
   Revision: 00008000    Serial number: 00000A10634076
   Coding: 412120
   Shop #: WSC 00078 790 00199
   VCID: 2A50D2594532F21197-807E

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:26)--------------------------

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i'm not sure but your new MFSW (slip rign) module doesn't support G85, which is why you cant sort it out, you have audi module btw
for low beam it should work immediately, i would test it directly from battery pin 5 ground (-) and pin 6 positive (+), and you should have low beam on, for high beam solenoid is pin 11 + (also check if you have pin 11 in headlights connector) if it works check fuses, wires, adapter etc...
 
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Thanks for replying!

i'm not sure but your new MFSW (slip rign) module doesn't support G85, which is why you cant sort it out, you have audi module btw
for low beam it should work immediately, i would test it directly from battery pin 5 ground (-) and pin 6 positive (+), and you should have low beam on, for high beam solenoid is pin 11 + (also check if you have pin 11 in headlights connector) if it works check fuses, wires, adapter etc...

I'll test everything again!

I've checked for slip ring compatibility and tables show that it is compatible! Any hint on that ?
 
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for slip ring it has audi software on it specifically Audi A1, because of that you have no communication with steering angle sensor
 
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G85 issues...

for slip ring it has audi software on it specifically Audi A1, because of that you have no communication with steering angle sensor

Thanks for replying again....

How you can tell that software is for Audi? Is is possible to change/flash it?

Do you know which slip ring is appropriate for my Tiguan ?
 
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no you change software in slip ring, you need to compare with original one which came with car, you need with steering wheel angle sensor etc....
 
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I noticed the email conversation related to the G85 problem
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
.. between the OP and Peter in our tech team. I decided to reply here because I agree with m87a.

The oldest scan I have from this car showed:
Code:
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 BD    HW: 5K0 953 569 J
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140
   Revision: FF010041    Serial number: 20121006300001
   Coding: 5180040000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 6DDA1945BC5C252932-8038

No fault code found.

and the GVL reported 04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000 at that time.

I haven't noticed a VW scan with Audi SWCM software (8X0 part number) but it doesn't sound like that is compatible and m87a is knowledgeable in this area. Since 03 is coded identically to the last known good scan and we know 5N1 44 modules do not have an internal G85 my only suggestion would be to code the installed 16 to the original value of: 5180040000

If 16 accepts the original coding the G85 problem *might* be resolved but if it rejects the original coding I would consider it incorrect for this car.
 
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Thanks for replying!

I noticed the email conversation related to the G85 problem
.. between the OP and Peter in our tech team. I decided to reply here because I agree with m87a.

The oldest scan I have from this car showed:
Code:
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 BD    HW: 5K0 953 569 J
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140
   Revision: FF010041    Serial number: 20121006300001
   Coding: 5180040000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 6DDA1945BC5C252932-8038

No fault code found.

and the GVL reported 04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000 at that time.

I haven't noticed a VW scan with Audi SWCM software (8X0 part number) but it doesn't sound like that is compatible and m87a is knowledgeable in this area. Since 03 is coded identically to the last known good scan and we know 5N1 44 modules do not have an internal G85 my only suggestion would be to code the installed 16 to the original value of: 5180040000

If 16 accepts the original coding the G85 problem *might* be resolved but if it rejects the original coding I would consider it incorrect for this car.

________________________________________

Dear Dana and m87a, I really thank you for your responses!

Dear Dana do you know which is the right slip ring part number to fit my car??

Best regards,
Nikolaos
 
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you can try these, of course you buy these on your own, no guarantee because i don't know what did your car have before and now, also if you try to retrofit MFSW you need to change stalks ( wiper stalk to delete trip computer up/down/ok buttons) which causes issues with coding mfsw
5K0 953 569 R
5K0 953 569 AB
5K0 953 569 AK no cruise control
also try to find with list be aware there are audi and skoda/seat modules with same hardware different firmware (software) which can't be flashed
 
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PL24 notes using a scan tool to determine the original module:

http://ft.trillian.im/7a467daf2651281430c9375002268189594cfb6d/6Qch8ipw8r08s9gVaw5SV7QUSP7VZ.jpg

.. but ETKA shows this path from what I believe was the original: 5K0 953 569 J > 5K0 953 569 H > 5K0 953 569 AL

You may want to research that list in addition to the ones m87a came up with.

P.S. My 2012 SEL is WVGBV7AX1CW000438 and a scan from is lives in post #18 here http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...r-my-2012-Sharan&p=13575&viewfull=1#post13575

The MFSW and Xenon (facelift with LED DRL) were factory equipped.
 
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module worked!

I noticed the email conversation related to the G85 problem
.. between the OP and Peter in our tech team. I decided to reply here because I agree with m87a.

The oldest scan I have from this car showed:
Code:
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 BD    HW: 5K0 953 569 J
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140
   Revision: FF010041    Serial number: 20121006300001
   Coding: 5180040000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 6DDA1945BC5C252932-8038

No fault code found.

and the GVL reported 04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000 at that time.

I haven't noticed a VW scan with Audi SWCM software (8X0 part number) but it doesn't sound like that is compatible and m87a is knowledgeable in this area. Since 03 is coded identically to the last known good scan and we know 5N1 44 modules do not have an internal G85 my only suggestion would be to code the installed 16 to the original value of: 5180040000

If 16 accepts the original coding the G85 problem *might* be resolved but if it rejects the original coding I would consider it incorrect for this car.

Dear Dana,

I've followed your instructions and module worked!

Thank you so much!!!
 
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High beams not working!

Right after I've changed the BCM (5K0 937 087 AB), test everything again, FOBs worked, Xenons worked BUT high beams won't. I've tried almost everything read on threads but no luck. I'm using Kufatec's adapters.

Also MFD settings menu and audio menu disappeared! ????

Any Help?? -Scan follows:

Code:
Sunday,21,May,2017,15:46:25:52699
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
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VIN: WVGZZZ5NZDW043218   License Plate: NEW-8554
Mileage: 117770km-73178mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 5N (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 4C 52 53 56 61 62 72 77
         

VIN: WVGZZZ5NZDW043218   Mileage: 117770km-73178miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 LE    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H28 4571  
   Revision: 41H28---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00190012040401080000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LE 003009
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LE.rod
   VCID: 78F43811C31E9081D1-802C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 AR    HW: 5N0 614 109 AR
   Component: J104   C6 450M VD5B 0006  
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000006258606
   Coding: 0037947
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7BFE271D3A28BB99BC-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 GJ    HW: 5K0 907 044 GJ
   Component: Climatronic   H19 1313  
   Revision: 00001004    
   Coding: 0010004003
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 79F23D15F8148989AE-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 AB    HW: 5K0 937 087 AB
   Component: BCM PQ35 H    122 0174  
   Revision: BE122001    
   Coding: 46180A38802502C0008800C0340089E84B75AB88436D8160E480C7240041
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 75EA3125DC0CEDE9CA-8020

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N1 955 119     HW:              Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 08101  013 0204 
   Serial number: N1955119   °204!
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 051012 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 02304D

1 Fault Found:
00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 91
                    Mileage: 117770 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.05.21
                    Time: 20:56:22

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.55 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 AA    HW: 5N0 959 655 AA
   Component: J234__20J VW10 HI   2118  
   Revision: 24017000    Serial number: 003L7PLTU4Q.  
   Coding: 0012362
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7CFC24013F26BCA1B5-8028

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS661652712 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS670032702 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6P6IVBBKR 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6CUTADBKR 

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8X0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 8X0 953 501 Q    HW: 5K0 953 569 AP
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
   Revision: FF010018    Serial number: 20140409200806
   Coding: 518A040000
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00118
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 489488D1F37E200161-801C

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0033 
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 883 A    HW: 5N0 920 883 A
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 111F00
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3260CA3965E2BAD12F-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AC    HW: 7N0 907 530 AC
   Component: J533  Gateway H48 1633  
   Revision:   H48       Serial number: 270912F2000492
   Coding: 356002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 71E20535A864C1C916-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6AD012598DB2321157-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 F    HW: 3C0 959 793 B
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0503  
   Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0005716407
   Coding: 0200BC
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 3874F811839E508111-806C

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 F    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  008 1504 
   Serial number: 00000007278896      
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 N    HW: 5N1 909 148 G
   Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1101  
   Revision: 1AH03837    Serial number: 00122690267701
   Coding: 0000258
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3D7AE90564BC75A9C2-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 F    HW: 3C0 959 792 B
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0503  
   Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0005756361
   Coding: 0200BC
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 3972FD15B8944989EE-806C

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 F    HW: 3C0 959 795 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  008 1504 
   Serial number: 00000007283631      
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 H    HW: 3AA 907 801 H
   Component: J540 EPB4  VW-86594 0010  
   Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000511436
   Coding: 0026167
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3668F629418AA6F103-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 5ND 035 190 B    HW: 5ND 035 190 B
   Component: RCD510USBRVC  003 0003  
   Revision: -----001    Serial number: VWZ4Z3R8092332
   Coding: 0100042504000C
   Shop #: WSC 79107 123 12345
   VCID: 3B7EE71DBAA87B99FC-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AC
   Component: Batt.regelung H48 1633  
   Serial number: 270912F2000492
   Coding: 030F1859
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 71E20535A864C1C916-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180 
   Serial number: 00000000008900271979

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J738)       Labels: 1K8-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 035 730 D    HW: 1K8 035 730 D
   Component: Telefon       H08 6900  
   Revision: 00008000    Serial number: 00000A10634076
   Coding: 412120
   Shop #: WSC 00078 790 00199
   VCID: 2A50D2594532F21197-807E

No fault code found.

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for high beam check if in kufatec adapter from old connector pin4 goes to pin11 or if there are 2 extra wires in new connector pin11 which needs to be connected to bcm, this depends on the adapter how is it wired but also on your car, current wiring
pin11 controls high beams or solenoids
 
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High beams won't work

for high beam check if in kufatec adapter from old connector pin4 goes to pin11 or if there are 2 extra wires in new connector pin11 which needs to be connected to bcm, this depends on the adapter how is it wired but also on your car, current wiring
pin11 controls high beams or solenoids

Hello m87a! thanks for replying again!

Kufatec adapter (and current wiring):

Old Pin 1 goes to new pin 4
Old Pin 2 goes to none
Old Pin 3 goes to new pin 14
Old Pin 4 goes to new pin 12
Old Pin 5 goes to new pin 5
Old Pin 6 goes to new pin 6
Old Pin 7 goes to new pin 7 to Ground
Old pin 8 goes to new 11. There are no extra pin 11 cables to BCM
Old Pin 9 goes to new pin 9
Old Pin 10 goes to new pin 10

Do you also have any idea why MFD and audio settings gone away from MFD after replacing BCM? -same coding-

By the way that Audi A1 slip ring worked right after Dana's instructions...

Best regards,
Nikolaos
 
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sorry pin4 to pin12 not 11 my mistake

ok you need to move these 2 wires on cecm
from
T52A (black connector) pin5 to T52C (brown) pin48 &
T52C (brown) pin46 to T52C (brown) to pin49
with this high beam will work ;)
 
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High beams still not working!

sorry pin4 to pin12 not 11 my mistake

ok you need to move these 2 wires on cecm
from
T52A (black connector) pin5 to T52C (brown) pin48 &
T52C (brown) pin46 to T52C (brown) to pin49
with this high beam will work ;)

Dear m87a, thnaks for the tip, but I've done all described without success!

Any other tips? What about coding ?

Dana??
 
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do you have physically pin11 on headlights??? because Tiguan also came with inteligent adaptive light which doesn't have pin 11 for high beam, instead it's operated via can wires, AFS can module controls low/hiogh beam and adapt it
 
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High beams still not working!

do you have physically pin11 on headlights??? because Tiguan also came with inteligent adaptive light which doesn't have pin 11 for high beam, instead it's operated via can wires, AFS can module controls low/hiogh beam and adapt it

I have no AFS installed. I've tried already direct cable from pin 11 to CECM pins 48 and 49 with no luck!
 
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it's not about AFS it's wheather your headlights have pin 11 in connector, meaning solenoid for high beam if not they are intelligent headlights and you cant get them to operate highbeam without AFS ok? check headlight connector is pin 11 present
 
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High beams still not working!

it's not about AFS it's wheather your headlights have pin 11 in connector, meaning solenoid for high beam if not they are intelligent headlights and you cant get them to operate highbeam without AFS ok? check headlight connector is pin 11 present

Thanks for your response m87a!!!

Indeed my lights have no pin 11 ! So what could I do??? Any suggestions???? How could I immitate AFS? Could I just install the controller without the sensor? If so, what kind of cabling modification should I do?

Best regards,
Nicolas!

Thanks so much for your help!
 
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