2006 Audi S4 transmission in "old style mode"

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I need to change my tiptronic to new style mode but can't access basic settings. I did it on my 2004 S4. Is there a way to override this
 
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There shouldn't be much difference in trannies between a 2004 S4 and a 2006. But I doubt there are any "tweaks" via Basic Settings. Please post up an Auto-Scan so we can see exactly what TCU you've got.

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Thanks. I will do that. Here is what I did before
VCDS works fine

Recoding Tiptronic:

In the newer cars, there are coding options for "Old" vs "New" "Tiptronic strategy". The "New" stategy (introduced in 2000 I think) is much more "automatic" than the old. To get the "Old Tiptronic strategy" where it won't downshift unless you come to a complete stop, I believe you have to change the coding in the following manner:

[Select]
[02 - Auto Trans]
[Recode - 07]
Enter the coding below
[Do It!]

Write down the original coding for future reference.

Look at the fourth digit in the coding (Cylinders):

0 or 1 - "New-style Tiptronic"
2 - "Old-style Tiptronic"

Look at the fifth digit in the coding (Market version):

1 - "Rest of world, quattro"
2 - "USA, quattro"
3 - "Rest of world, FronTrak"
4 - "USA, FronTrak"

So, for a USA model A4 quattro, if the original coding is 00002, and you want to change to the "Old-style Tiptronic" strategy, change the coding to 00022.

PS: As always, you play with stuff like this at your own risk. The "old" strategy is documented by VW only for "testing" and they explictly say that the car should be recoded the way it was before giving it back to the customer.
 
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Autoscan

Here is the Auto scan

Code:
Sunday,20,July,2014,15:48:00:64484
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140212

Dealer/Shop Name: Garage

VIN: WAUGL78E76A243545   License Plate: 
Mileage: 125370km-77901mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
          67 69 75 76 77
 
VIN: WAUGL78E76A243545   Mileage: 125370km/77901miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 079-910-560-BBK.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E2 910 560 A    HW: 8E2 907 560 
   Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0030  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0007771
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 2541F539EC1AE236C81-8070

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E1 910 156 F    HW: 09L 927 156 B
   Component: AG6 09L 4,2 MPI USA 0030  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number:        4156102
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 2A5B06058504CD4EE53-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
   Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 E    HW: 8E0 614 517 AL
   Component: ESP8 quattro    H06 0120  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0004902
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 2959F9098002C656EC9-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 820 043 BM
   Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   2832  
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 6DD1CD19276A1A76401-5122

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 907 279 L
   Component: int. Lastmodul  USA 0704  
   Coding: 01023
   Shop #: WSC 65536  
   VCID: 3B753341299E44C68E5-4B02

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-XM.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 E    HW:             
   Component: SDAR XM              
   Revision:             Serial number: AUZ4Z7F3042726
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B55030189FED4461E5-517A

2 Faults Found:
02633 - Antenna for Satellite Tuner 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 H    HW: 8E0 959 655 H
   Component:    Airbag 9.41  H12 3840  
   Revision: 91H12384    Serial number: 0036N001TBSF  
   Coding: 0032607
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3C77305D7F9043FE87F-8069

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 910 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 002 0070

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 36NKJ         

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.000000200000000000ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000ÿ†6332DRB402D0CD35Vÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 0CD35Vÿ†6342DRB403054E8BTÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 54E8BTÿ†6352ARB4010F2318Cÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: F2318Cÿ†6362ARB4010F260CJÿ†63

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: F260CJÿ†63729RB401104869Cÿ†63

   Subsystem 9 - Serial number: 04869Cÿ†63829RB401104A224ÿ

   Subsystem 10 - Serial number: 04A224ÿ

1 Fault Found:
01212 - Belt Tensioner Igniter; Rear Passenger Side (N197) 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 39
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2064.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
   Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0601  
   Coding: 04141
   Shop #: WSC 06335  
   VCID: 418941A94B722E16D49-4B02

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 920 982 C    HW: 8E0 920 982 C
   Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H14 0110  
   Revision: 0110        Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0023201
   Shop #: WSC 02101 444 58852
   VCID: 2E530A15BAECA16E39B-5140

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 920 982 C    HW: 8E0 920 982 C
   Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H14 0110  
   Revision: 0110        Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0023201
   Shop #: WSC 02101 444 58852
   VCID: 2E530A15BAECA16E39B-5122

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 959 760 
   Component: Sitzmemory R2 F     0305  
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: F1E95169BB527E96E49-4B02

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 J    HW: 8E0 035 192 J
   Component: RNS-E US        H71 X---  
   Revision:      02S    Serial number: AUZBZ7F2400372
   Coding: 0309637
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 2B55030189FED4461E5-517A

4 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 144
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.10.29
                    Time: 16:01:19

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.50 V

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 10
                    Reset counter: 144
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.10.12
                    Time: 13:53:21

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 10.60 V
                    Mileage: 655350 km
                    Count: 2007
                    Clock: 15:33

00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.11.30
                    Time: 13:47:12

             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 655350 km
                    Count: 65535
                    Clock: 255:255

00858 - Connection; Radio Intermediate Frequency (IF) Output to Antenna Amplifier 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 141
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.02.24
                    Time: 07:40:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 655350 km
                    Count: 65535
                    Clock: 255:255


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 959 433 CG
   Component: Komfortgerát T7B    4035  
   Coding: 11820
   Shop #: WSC 06335  
   VCID: 78FFEC4D5828AFDEA37-4B02

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801G
   Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0706  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802G
   Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0706  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801E
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0606  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802E
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0606  

2 Faults Found:
00955 - Key 1 
            35-10 - - - Intermittent
00956 - Key 2 
            35-10 - - - Intermittent

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Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 E    HW: 4F0 907 357 E
   Component: AFS 1           H01 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000019
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 285FFC0D9B08FF5EF37-807D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 
   Component: AFS-Modul links H03 0020

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 
   Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH03 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 J    HW: 8E0 035 192 J
   Component: RNS-E US        H71 X---  
   Revision:      02S    Serial number: AUZBZ7F2400372
   Coding: 0309637
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 2B55030189FED4461E5-517A

4 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 144
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.10.29
                    Time: 16:01:19

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.50 V

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 10
                    Reset counter: 144
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.10.12
                    Time: 13:53:21

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 10.60 V
                    Mileage: 655350 km
                    Count: 2007
                    Clock: 15:33

00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.11.30
                    Time: 13:47:12

             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 655350 km
                    Count: 65535
                    Clock: 255:255

00858 - Connection; Radio Intermediate Frequency (IF) Output to Antenna Amplifier 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 141
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.02.24
                    Time: 07:40:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 655350 km
                    Count: 65535
                    Clock: 255:255


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 G    HW: 8P0 862 335 G
   Component: FSE_255x BT     H21 0190  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: 00000000413920
   Coding: 0011877
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3A7B364576A47DCE953-515C

No fault code found.

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You could certainly try changing the second-to last (as opposed to 4th) digit of the coding to see if it has the same effect, but we have nothing documented for it.

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