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    Golf 7 TPMS issue after cluster exchange

    Hello everyone.
    VW did cluster exchange online from LowLine to HighLine .
    All good , expect one error
    TPMS on DiscoverMedia show - Not Available
    Before cluster swap all was good.
    I am able reset TPMS from ABS adaptation and VCDS show "correct ", but SET button on Discover media no longer work
    All adaptation was re-write from old cluster to new,


    Any suggestion where / what to look ?
    I did some reserch and seems this error come from Trailer module, but cant find where to decode it , in a fact only cluster can contain Trailer info, because my car dont have that
    Code:
    Thursday,02,March,2017,21:20:31:25051
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
    Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Dealer/Shop Name: Spacewalker
    Workshop Code: 020 01342 012345
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZFW205302   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 8510km-5287mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AU (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 55 5F
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZFW205302   Mileage: 8510km-5287miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
     
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    Address 01: Engine (J623-CXSA)       Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 016 DE    HW: 04E 907 309 A
       Component: 1,4l R4 TSI   H10 7774  
       Revision: WAH10---    
       Coding: 01190032232405082000
       Shop #: WSC 01342 020 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906016DE 002006
       ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906016DE_VW37.rod
       VCID: 68D5BA339312000141-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 F    HW: 3Q0 907 379 F
       Component: ESC           H42 0609  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 63374000000767
       Coding: 01FA6AA124202971077A060041C52980562494E0608294F300200078C002
       Shop #: WSC 01342 020 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 034027
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_034_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3D7B3B67AC1075A9C2-8068
    
    1 Fault Found:
    8299 - Databus 
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 4
                        Date: 2017.03.01
                        Time: 18:27:47
    
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 5G0-907-426.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 426 T    HW: 5G0 907 426 T
       Component: AC Manuell    H02 1001  
       Revision: 00001K06    
       Coding: 00020004200100001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 003019
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_SK48.rod
       VCID: 3C7D3663B70A7CA1F5-8068
    
       Fresh Air Blower Front: 
    
       Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ
       Component: BCM MQBAB H   H18 0137  
       Serial number: 01011433701787
       Coding: 00000A42C24122730BA44080B10C07081000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01342 020 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 013000
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_013.rod
       VCID: 000582939B62D841E9-8054
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A    HW: 5G1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    140719  043 0551 
       Serial number:         140726190131
       Coding: 0E4DDD
    
       Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 559 A    HW: 5Q0 955 559 A  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLS  037 0059 
       Serial number: S2Y14M12D10H17M35S39
       Coding: 05A8DD
    
       Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
       Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0315 
       Serial number: 000000000ZY143212GFC
    
       Alarm horn: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
       Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
       Serial number: 00000000000061173199
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 5Q0-919-294.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 E    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0048  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 39391433514013
       Coding: 0031051001
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002024
       ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3D7B3B67AC1075A9C2-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 D    HW: 5Q0 959 655 D
       Component: AirbagVW20    014 0385  
       Serial number: 003F6R0E3NTY
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF004800000065
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
       VCID: 41834797D0E81149A6-8014
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 212 14
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35767000000D2B74321S
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 412 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35867000000B5BE0321X
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 811 14
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502A7188FC24917K
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 811 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502B318B3A71E22A
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 811 14
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502A118B3AB393AK
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AA    HW: 5Q0 953 549 
       Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 05121408490885
       Coding: 0400
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 75EBE347D4A0EDE9CA-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 517 920 750     HW: 517 920 750 
       Component: KOMBI         301 4260  
       Coding: 07A502002B80000807087E001400000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 111246 001 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009036
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
       VCID: 54AD7EC33F9A94E11D-8000
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AC    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
       Component: GW MQB High   128 1204  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0002818375
       Coding: 030100042F085700EF000048080F00010001050000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 011020
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_011.rod
       VCID: 72E1D85BA5CEFAD1EF-8026
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 J    HW: 5G0 959 442 J  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H16 0038 
       Serial number: 29140002727390084496
       Coding: 28FFFF
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 G    HW: 5Q0 915 181 G
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H04 8050 
       Serial number: 1945735203          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 393 D    HW: 5Q0 959 393 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0028  
       Serial number: 071214BL615153
       Coding: 003002208000040000001000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 40854293DBE21841A9-8014
    
       Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811     HW: 5Q0 959 811   Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0005 
       Serial number: 00000000000004643923
       Coding: 110000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 R    HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  126 1061  
       Coding: 0102
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_VW31.rod
       VCID: 438F4D9FCAF40359B4-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 D    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0028  
       Serial number: 021214BL211212
       Coding: 003000208E00040000801000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 41834797D0E81149A6-8014
    
       Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812     HW: 5Q0 959 812   Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005 
       Serial number: 00000000000004670226
       Coding: 090000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels: 5Q0-907-357.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 A
       Component: LWR-ECU       005 0080  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 029A000001000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB_VW26.rod
       VCID: 75EBE347D4A0EDE9CA-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 5G0-035-MIB-HGH1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 043 C    HW: 5G0 035 043 
       Component: MU-H-N-EU     H40 0290  
       Serial number: A457D0E7514135
       Coding: 02730001FF00000011110001000B00001F020794010001017F
       Shop #: WSC 111246 001 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig4CHBAS 001040
       ROD: EV_MUHig4CHBAS_VW37.rod
       VCID: 1E39DCEB01D60EB1FB-804A
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 606     HW: 5G0 919 606 
       Component: ABT_High  H62 0032 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9RU304L3X      
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: V03 959 801 DG    HW: -----------
       Component: ECE 2016/2017  --- 0153 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
       Compact Disc Database: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
       Component: Gracenote  --- 1008 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:47)--------------------------
    Last edited by Spacewalker; 03-02-2017 at 03:22 PM.
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    1 Fault Found:
    8299 - Databus
    U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message

    Have you not got a communication fault from the ABS controller?
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    Spacewalker: check your settings for the following:

    Module @ 5F>
    >Channel "(13)-Vehicle function list BAP-tire_pressure_system_0x07"> Set value to "active"
    > Channel "(14)-Vehicle function list BAP-tire_pressure_system_0x07_msg_bus"> Set value to " Suspension data bus"
    > Channel "(56)-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_rdk "> Set value to "active"
    > Channel "(58)-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_rdk_over_threshold_high "> Set value to "active"

    Also - I have a note on my database about retro-fitting TPMS that says that the last two Bytes on the ABS should be C202 - but I have no further explanation and I have not noted the reference source for this information. So I can't vouch for the authenticity of this suggestion. The last two Bytes on your ABS are COO2 - might be worth considering-though as I say, not sure about this change


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    Last edited by DV52; 03-02-2017 at 04:24 PM.
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    ABS keep factory coding because I restore coding after new cluster sucesfully dapated
    I think ABS is not proper adapt , in a fact , ABS lost all settings when new cluster was IN, and I need adapt TRAILER (DISABLE) in ABS adaptation

    Will check 5F coding just in case however before cluster replace all was perfect and no even small issue , but worth to try

    feedback soon ....
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    ERROR in ABS sorted
    Trailer and Car stabilizer - changed to 0
    But still TPMS show " Enabling ..."
    Checked 5F adaptation and is good , in a fact was untouch after cluster exchange

    I see label file for BW and Color cluster is this same and code to " Indirect TPMS "

    Only problem with ABS adaptation:
    Tire pressure monitoring Display - value 2
    Tire Pressure Monitoring Display , Tire Selection - value 2

    cant change it even after proper Security Access code , and dont know if this is correct or not
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    I'm just guessing here but 19-CAN GW has ADP options like:

    Installation list: specified installations - Tire Pressure Monitoring 1
    Not coded
    coded
    GW_Enable_CAN_Timeout_DTC - Tire Pressure Monitoring 1
    not enabled
    Enabled

    The only SA code I know of for 03-ABS is 40168. I don't think old-school codes like 70605 or 50403 will be accepted.

    After looking at my 03 maps I see the channels you mention and my stock values are:
    IDE07006-Tire pressure monitoring display: tire selection 1
    IDE04939-Tire pressure monitoring display 2

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    P.S. Did you try Basic Settings Reset tire pressure monitoring display warnings in the 03-ABS module just to see if it allows the reset without the menu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    I'm just guessing here but 19-CAN GW has ADP options like:

    Installation list: specified installations - Tire Pressure Monitoring 1
    Not coded
    coded
    GW_Enable_CAN_Timeout_DTC - Tire Pressure Monitoring 1
    not enabled
    Enabled

    The only SA code I know of for 03-ABS is 40168. I don't think old-school codes like 70605 or 50403 will be accepted.

    After looking at my 03 maps I see the channels you mention and my stock values are:
    IDE07006-Tire pressure monitoring display: tire selection 1
    IDE04939-Tire pressure monitoring display 2
    Dana: the stock settings for the 2 x TPMS adaptation channels in my 03 module (mk7) are the same. From my webpage ramblings over the past, I've amassed quite a few "alleged" security codes for the mk7 ABS module from a number of different sources - can't vouch for any of them, but here they are:

    11966
    15081
    18573
    20103
    24435
    25004
    28183
    31857
    37202
    40168
    44595
    10505
    19249

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    P.S. Did you try Basic Settings Reset tire pressure monitoring display warnings in the 03-ABS module just to see if it allows the reset without the menu?
    Yes, passed all the time.
    Dont even know if Discover Media pro will display Tire issue , in a fact - system is still "enabling.... "
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    Ok everywone, problem sorted, and I have to aplologize because is partly my fault
    And seems it was since I replaced radio to Discover Media and never look TPMS over a half a year


    Quote Originally Posted by DV52 View Post

    Module @ 5F>
    >Channel "(13)-Vehicle function list BAP-tire_pressure_system_0x07"> Set value to "active"
    > Channel "(14)-Vehicle function list BAP-tire_pressure_system_0x07_msg_bus"> Set value to " Suspension data bus"
    > Channel "(56)-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_rdk "> Set value to "active"
    > Channel "(58)-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_rdk_over_threshold_high "> Set value to "active"

    Don
    Don, your suggestion was 100% right , I missed that ;(
    Channel "(14)-Vehicle function list BAP-tire_pressure_system_0x07_msg_bus"> Set value to " Suspension data bus
    and when I sorted that , problem gone
    so ABS coding is still genuine and proper, adaptation too , just 5F unit was not proper adapt last time

    Thank you all for support !!!
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