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    Power Outlet Timeout through VDCS

    Does anyone have the coding to change the Cig Lighter outlets timeout to 99 Minutes or permanently on? I know you can jumper the fusebox, but I'd rather do it the civilized way.

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    I think switching the fuse position actually IS the civilized way, as it's even suggested in the Owner's Manual of the car

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    The method I saw was to create a wire jumper with an inline fuse from one side of the fuse panel to the other. There's a way on a B8S4 to move a fuse?

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    Most VW's have two fuse positions for the cigarette lighter fuse. Fuse in position 1 = switched power supply, switch the fuse to the other position = constant power supply. RTFM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterTommy View Post
    Most VW's have two fuse positions for the cigarette lighter fuse. Fuse in position 1 = switched power supply, switch the fuse to the other position = constant power supply. RTFM.
    I drive an Audi, not a VW. From what I can see there is no 2nd fuse position. I guess your RTFM has something special in it that doesn't apply to Audi.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedRacerAZ View Post
    I drive an Audi, not a VW.
    Dang Audi elitist!

    Is there an Auto-Scan from this car somewhere?

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Dang Audi elitist!

    Is there an Auto-Scan from this car somewhere?

    -Uwe-

    See below for elitist autoscan... lol
    Thanks for looking at this Uwe!


    Autoscan:
    Code:
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    VIN: WAUKGAFL4CA  License Plate: 
    Mileage: 142220km-88371mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: FL-AU48 (8T0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 36 3C 42 46 47 52 53 55
              56 5F 62 6C 72
    
    VIN: WAUKGAFL4CA   Mileage: 142220km-88371miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CCBA)       Labels:. 06E-907-551-CAK.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 551 D    HW: 8K0 907 551 A
       Component: 3.0T SIMOS84  H08 0003  
       Revision: --H08---    
       Coding: 0104000A240F0128
       Shop #: WSC 06324 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS0218K0907551D 001003
       ROD: EV_ECM30TFS0218K0907551D.rod
       VCID: 323E12A8A4A38567B73-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0B5-927-156.clb
       Part No SW: 8K2 927 156 S    HW: 0B5 927 156 F
       Component: 0B5 30TFSINAR H10 0001  
       Revision: --H10---    Serial number: 0000000168
       Coding: 000001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDL501 A02087
       ROD: EV_TCMDL501.rod
       VCID: 46D65E78382B09C70BB-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 8K0 907 379 BJ
       Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0060  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 290D1A
       Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
       VCID: 025E82685403F5E7673-8056
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CG    HW: 8K0 907 064 CG
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 0D0100
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 77A8E3BC0FC1A04F40D-8022
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
       Component: J764 ELV MLB  H37 0042 
       Serial number: 2311000262430004    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8T1 820 043 AQ
       Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0180  
       Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01181220110352
       Coding: 66106000
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 005A88605A0FE7F7717-8054
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00457 - Control Module for Network (J519) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101101
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 13
                        Reset counter: 138
                        Mileage: 141954 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.10.22
                        Time: 17:25:37
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P    HW: 8K0 907 063 P
       Component: BCM1 1.0      H30 0392  
       Revision: 10030001    Serial number: 00000001168356
       Coding: 26001091003CAF212700080300003D0D0F9CD24802010161000000
       Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
       VCID: 3C223C90766743176DF-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 A    HW: 8T1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS 141211  H07 0070 
       Serial number: SWF11120146264      
       Coding: 00F511
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS  H04 0003 
       Serial number: 20010916            
       Coding: 025028
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
       Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 
       Serial number: 00000000000812110065
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 907 410 C    HW: 8K0 907 410 C
       Component: HOMELINK  H01 0010 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
                014 - Defective - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101110
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 13
                        Reset counter: 138
                        Mileage: 141954 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.10.22
                        Time: 17:25:00
    
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 8K0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 T    HW: 8P0 919 475 M
       Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H01 0081  
       Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 36861134900422
       Coding: 20010D
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 4ACE6A482CB3EDA7EF3-801E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 K    HW: 8K0 959 655 K
       Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H45 0610  
       Serial number: 003GLD90477.  
       Coding: 303837354230303030304A55304C384B3053
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
       ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
       VCID: 45D45974052D02DF021-8010
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 C    HW: 8K0 959 339 C
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H02 0040 
       Serial number: 5810000R1100006MMP
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6334MSME6620396FK
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6344MSME49750670C
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6352QSME45684C6E-
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6362QSME0E65104CK
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 63732SME7166187A2
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 63832SME2766137A%
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 G    HW: 8K0 953 568 G
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H17 0014  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 90372KLC001DO 
       Coding: 000036
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 3E263698607B510743B-806A
    
       Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0010 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 920 981 Q    HW: 8K0 920 981 Q
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H12 0261  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: ND420FDDC     
       Coding: 831709008B00D705020000
       Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
       VCID: 41DC4D6411852EFF3E9-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 AJ    HW: 8T0 907 468 L
       Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H10 0120  
       Revision: FC201059    Serial number: 5900F11C028020
       Coding: 00C303
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 094C95446935A6BF269-805C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181     HW: 8T0 915 181 
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8040 
       Serial number: 8540856001          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels: 8K0-907-163.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 163 A    HW: 8K0 907 163 A
       Component: 4 Wheel Drive H13 0025  
       Serial number: 000812110001015
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN 003016
       ROD: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN.rod
       VCID: 2E0606D8B09BA187D3B-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 760 D    HW: 8K0 959 760 D
       Component: MEM-FS        H06 0076  
       Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000020176063
       Coding: 00581B00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 3B203F8C7369442F645-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 3C: Lane Change        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 566 H    HW: 4L0 907 566 B
       Component: J0769_SWA_MasterH02 0030  
       Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-82
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 3C223C907A6743176DF-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 907 568 H
       Component: J0770_SWA_Slave_H01 0030
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-92
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 5F01.12.1100H010003C322137˙
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 322137˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 793 M    HW: 8T0 959 793 D
       Component: TSG FA        H08 1501  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 011C13204E00410001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 53F0772CFBF9AC6F9C5-8006
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CG    HW: 8K0 907 064 CG
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0165771988    
       Coding: 0106063A00FA44058330013200000000
       Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
       VCID: 77A8E3BC0FC1A04F40D-8022
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 B    HW: 8K0 959 719 
       Component: GTO BF  H01 0070 
       Serial number: 00000000000000463946
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 B    HW: 8K0 959 591 
       Component: J245 PS050  H08 0043 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 AN    HW: 8T0 035 223 AK
       Component: DSP Prem      H10 0190  
       Revision: 00010001    Serial number: 34804012392403
       VCID: 7AAEFA883CD3BD273F3-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 792 M    HW: 8T0 959 792 D
       Component: TSG BF        H08 1501  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 011C13204E00410001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 52FE7228C4E3A567973-8006
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H    HW: 8K0 907 801 H
       Component: EPB Audi B8   H09 0100  
       Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 00000001074202
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 343214B05E378B57A5F-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8T0-907-357.clb
       Part No SW: 8H0 907 357 C    HW: 8H0 907 357 C
       Component: AFS 1           H01 0040  
       Revision: 00H01001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000019
       Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
       VCID: 323E12A8A8238567B73-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 941 329 
       Component: AFS-Modul links H01 S001
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 941 329 
       Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH01 S001
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4G0 035 082 B    HW: 4G0 035 082 
       Component: Radio U SIRIU H53 0076  
       Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 156L/0B7584005
       Coding: 020007010000000001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 1F18EB1CC7B1380F68D-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 035 664 D    HW: 8T1 035 664 B
       Component: H-BN-NA       H52 0165  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 490L90B7656953
       Coding: 010200000206E9FF77091F0E040000030000
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 392C25847955763F769-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 AD
       Component: NAR 2011  0505 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604     HW: 8R0 919 604 
       Component: DU7 High  H41 0104 
       Serial number: A130LA0BS077026     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 609 G    HW: 8T0 919 609 G
       Component: E0380 Bedient  H08 0100 
       Serial number: 00000001020292      
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 A
       Component: CD-Database  2712 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 94
                        Mileage: 141954 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.10.22
                        Time: 17:27:08
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Bin. Bits: 00000001 00100000
                        Bin. Bits: 01001000 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 N    HW: 8T0 959 795 B
       Component: TSG HL        H06 1501  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 010C13204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 56F68E38E80BB9477BB-8002
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 C    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
       Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
       Revision: --H05---    Serial number: 525PA8-J1892IK
       Coding: 1000006
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 382A20804E5F6F37897-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-794.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 N    HW: 8T0 959 795 B
       Component: TSG HR        H06 1501  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 010C13204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 56F68E38E80BB9477BB-8002
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:55, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.2V)-----------

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    I don't see an obvious way to change that with VCDS. However, your CCM's coding indicates that there is a "Power Outlet Relay" installed. So if you really want to change this behavior, I'd suggest digging into the wiring diagrams to see exactly how that relay is controlled. I would think it should be fairly straightforward to override it...

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    I don't see an obvious way to change that with VCDS. However, your CCM's coding indicates that there is a "Power Outlet Relay" installed. So if you really want to change this behavior, I'd suggest digging into the wiring diagrams to see exactly how that relay is controlled. I would think it should be fairly straightforward to override it...

    -Uwe-
    It looks like that relay controls that row of fuses, is there a way to put a 99 minute delay on that relay and the entire bank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedRacerAZ View Post
    It looks like that relay controls that row of fuses, is there a way to put a 99 minute delay on that relay and the entire bank?
    OK, but how is that relay controlled? Presumably the J393 CCM turns it on and off. Is it low-side switched or high-side?

    I don't see any way to change it in the CCM itself. That's not to say I coudn't have missed something though.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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