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    Disable stop/start, 2014 S4 Avant

    Probably been asked/discussed before but my S4 Avant has stop/start which can be switched off but needs to be done every time the engine is started otherwise it reverts to being on and I'm really not keen on it cutting out when I don't want it to.

    I would prefer that I could switch it off and it stay off, or leave it on and it stay on i.e. 'remember' the last state but I understand that is probably not possible? If that is the case then I would rather it be permanently off than default to on, if possible.

    There was mention in another thread about a different model that it can be permanently disabled with some adaptation? can anyone tell me how?

    Here's a scan in case it helps;

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    VIN: WAUZZZ8K7EA150192   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 27250km-16932mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 8K (8R0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 30 36 42 44 46 47 52 53 56 5F
              62 6D 72 A9
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8K7EA150192   Mileage: 27250km-16932miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    30-Special Function II -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
     
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    Address 01: Engine (J623-CGWC)       Labels: 06E-907-551-CGW.clb
       Part No SW: 8K5 907 551 D    HW: 4H0 907 551 
       Component: 3.0l V6 TFSIH07 0004  
       Revision: --H07---    
       Coding: 12250034052701020800
       Shop #: WSC 06208 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS0218K5907551D 001004
       ROD: EV_ECM30TFS0218K5907551D.rod
       VCID: 377CA0AB8E2C1EFA4D-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: 0B5-927-156.clb
       Part No SW: 8K5 927 156 B    HW: 0B5 927 156 K
       Component: 0B5 30TFSIRdW H03 0003  
       Revision: --H03---    
       Coding: 000001
       Shop #: WSC 04742 780 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDL501021 001015
       ROD: EV_TCMDL501021_VW51.rod
       VCID: 387EA3978332118244-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 8K0-907-379-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 CP    HW: 8K0 907 379 CP
       Component: ESP8 quattro  H09 0020  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 291DCC01
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 09181653A058D80AEB-805C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 JG    HW: 8K0 907 064 JG
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H14 0650  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 01B24040000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 7EF2758FE996EFB2CE-802A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 754 BH    HW: 8K0 959 754 BH
       Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H71 0083 
       Serial number: 0514000046829005    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E    HW: 8K0 905 852 E
       Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046 
       Serial number: 0214000068278002    
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 8K2 820 043 AQ    HW: 8K2 820 043 AQ
       Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0122  
       Revision: D1000000    Serial number: 01100420140302
       Coding: 6624028000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 78FE6397CBB2D18284-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DH    HW: 8K0 907 063 DH
       Component: BCM1 1.0      H16 0103  
       Revision: 08016001    Serial number: 00000789946701
       Coding: 260000108034AFC00081404300001D0D0F1D470A27090201000008004400030100000024000000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 78FE6397CBB2D18284-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K2 955 119 A    HW: 8T2 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS 010414  H06 0080 
       Serial number: SWF14044015610      
       Coding: 00FD11
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
       Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002 
       Serial number: 22487512            
       Coding: 02005D
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
       Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 
       Serial number: 00000000000104144832
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658 
       Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003 
       Serial number: FA780227000000000001
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 N    HW: 8K0 959 655 N
       Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H48 0610  
       Serial number: 003KFDC0WUTP  
       Coding: 30534435363030303030554A3052384B3053
       Shop #: WSC 60782 001 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
       ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
       VCID: 489ED357F3D2610234-801C
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6334MSME443A333AD
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6344MSME443C6E75T
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6352QSME1E400648E
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6362QSME1A401B6EP
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 63732SME40404A66X
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 63832SME4F400F689
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 Q    HW: 8K0 953 568 Q
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H03 0003  
       Revision: C0062331    Serial number: 90862NDE001IC 
       Coding: 000037
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 489ED357FBD2610234-801C
    
       Component: E221 - MFL  H03 0004 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 920 982 T    HW: 8K0 920 982 T
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H35 0564  
       Revision: 00100000    Serial number: ZAE62M34F     
       Coding: 33A7110003012600010000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4580DA63CCC07C6ACF-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 N    HW: 8R0 907 468 C
       Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H11 0060  
       Revision: 1Y080030    Serial number: 3041Y143310158
       Coding: 80CF07FF00
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4A9AE95FE5DE931222-801E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181     HW: 8T0 915 181 
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8041 
       Serial number: 9802233103          
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663 B    HW: 8K0 959 663 B
       Component: J532_DCDCStab  H05 0006 
       Serial number: 14099003849011200410
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 30: Special Function II (J843)       Labels: 8K0-907-440.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 440 B    HW: 8K0 907 440 
       Component: STS           H04 0020  
       Revision: S0H04000    Serial number: 00000000084090
       Coding: 01010101000000000001000102
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 2D5082C37470A42A27-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: 8T0-959-760.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 760 D    HW: 8K0 959 760 D
       Component: MEM-FS        H06 0077  
       Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000097259421
       Coding: 01781300000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3B74BC9BBA043A9AA9-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 P
       Component: TSG FA        H02 0510  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000098884238 
       Coding: 011C02205E21410001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4FACF84B1EBCB63A75-801A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 8K0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 909 144 G    HW: 8K0 909 144 B
       Component: RCEPS         H40 0508  
       Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0003457337
       Coding: 100000000001
       Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008015
       ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X_008.rod
       VCID: 3560AAA39420ECEA5F-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 JG    HW: 8K0 907 064 JG
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H14 0650  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0332027708    
       Coding: 013B0622A0B938948330023680000047
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 7EF2758FE996EFB2CE-802A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177 
       Component: DWA-Sensor  H02 0040 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 C    HW: 8K0 959 591 
       Component: J245 PS151  H08 0043 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 C    HW: 8K0 959 591 
       Component: J394 PS240  H08 0043 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 035 223 A    HW: 8T1 035 223 A
       Component: DSP Prem      H05 0030  
       Revision: 00005001    Serial number: 94813028507104
       VCID: 2D5082C37470A42A27-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 P
       Component: TSG BF        H02 0510  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000098720192 
       Coding: 011C02205E21410001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4E92E54F19B6BF327E-801A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 N    HW: 8K0 907 801 J
       Component: EPB-4         H01 0005  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 20000000431915
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
       ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_VW51.rod
       VCID: 3A7AB99FBD3E0392B2-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4G0 035 061 N    HW: 4G0 035 061 
       Component: Radio U DAB   H60 0139  
       Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 109D20E7915856
       Coding: 010103010000000001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 285E73D75B928102D4-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
       Part No SW: 8R2 035 666 E    HW: 8R2 035 666 C
       Component: H-BN-EU       H47 0793  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 206DZ0E7560780
       Coding: 110101010206A1ED41808B5E00000403E40100020000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3B74BC9BBA043A9AA9-806E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 BK
       Component: EUR 2014  1703 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604 A    HW: 8R0 919 604 A
       Component: DU7 High  H42 0104 
       Serial number: A130DI0E3000809     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 K    HW: 8T0 919 611 B
       Component: E0380 Bedient  H02 0030 
       Serial number: 00000001824649      
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 F
       Component: CD-Database  5571 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
       Component: TSG HL        H01 0510  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000098922402 
       Coding: 010C02204021210001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4682DD6FF1C67772C6-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 8K9 827 851 C    HW: 8K9 827 851 C
       Component: J605  Master  H53 0330  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 8K9827851C    
       VCID: 3E72B58FA9162FB28E-806A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K9 827 852 C    HW: 8K9 827 852 C
       Component: J756  Slave  H53 0330 
       Serial number: 8K9827852C          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
       Component: TSG HR        H01 0510  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000098919842 
       Coding: 010C02204021210001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4682DD6FF1C67772C6-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 159     HW: 4H0 907 159 A
       Component: SAS-GEN 2     H06 0005  
       Serial number: 140301200807
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 002005
       ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X_002.rod
       VCID: 72EA51BFA5CEBBD2BA-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:42)--------------------------
    Thanks in advance.
    2014 Audi S4 Avant, 'black edition'.
    2019 Audi Q2 Sport 30 tdi.
    2011 VW Golf 'Match' 1.4 tsi.
    2004 VW Polo 1.2.

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    Module 09 > SA: 20113 > Adaptions > Read channel 34 > with the value you have some options:

    - substract 4 from the value = stop/start off by default
    - add 32 to the value = enable stop/start memory
    - add 64 to the value = invert the light in the stop/start switch (light on when stop/start on)

    I hope this works.

    Oh and you can do all of the above, if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBAx View Post

    add 32 to the value = enable stop/start memory
    Now if that works, that would be perfect.
    2014 Audi S4 Avant, 'black edition'.
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    To follow up, I did the above and it works fine.

    Actually I tried the -4 first and that changed the default, then I tried the +32 and it now retains the last setting - perfect.
    2014 Audi S4 Avant, 'black edition'.
    2019 Audi Q2 Sport 30 tdi.
    2011 VW Golf 'Match' 1.4 tsi.
    2004 VW Polo 1.2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBAx View Post
    Module 09 > SA: 20113 > Adaptions > Read channel 34 > with the value you have some options:

    - substract 4 from the value = stop/start off by default
    - add 32 to the value = enable stop/start memory
    - add 64 to the value = invert the light in the stop/start switch (light on when stop/start on)

    I hope this works.

    Oh and you can do all of the above, if you want.
    TBAx: - if only you could provide advise about the same options for my mk7 Golf?

    Don
    VW Golf MkVII (MY13) - A3 8V hatch (MY17)

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    What is name of adaptation channel 34?
    Perhaps the same channel is available in the Golf BCM at a different address?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamold View Post
    What is name of adaptation channel 34?
    34. Non-UDS modules have channel numbers, not names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    34. Non-UDS modules have channel numbers, not names.

    -Uwe-
    Is there some way to map those channel numbers with a possible adaptation channel name of same function?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamold View Post
    Is there some way to map those channel numbers with a possible adaptation channel name of same function?
    I don't pretend to understand what all these channels etc. are but I'm happy to run any scan on it if it helps anyone?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamold View Post
    Is there some way to map those channel numbers with a possible adaptation channel name of same function?
    You can certainly make channel maps, but I can't think of any way to correlate them other than to look at the descriptions in the UDS ones.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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