Lupo 1.2 TDI 3L , Gears issues

Hey Guys,

Im running to this issue for more than a month and seems like there i got totally stuck into it.

Ill try to be as short as possible.

The gear stick and the display of the gears are completely messed up. The gear stick sometime is displaying N in Neutral sometimes is showing P, then the D sometimes is showing D sometimes N sometimes P. The R is almost displaying P and the tiptronic sometimes is OK sometimes is N sometimes is P.

I've run the Gear Actuator Adaptation and always is ending on RTFM error 12, but whenever i run it the situation on the gear stick is changing.

I've already changed the Potentiometer on the gear stick and then i found out the the plug itself when slightly touched its changing gear so i removed the plug and made a direct connection to the Potentiometer, now its not changing gears when i touch the plug but still its all messed up.

I was hoping that i would be able to reset the values with the VCDS and try to setup the new values so the Gear stick can read the new positions and remain like that but i found out that is not an optional.

Anyhow all the transmission parts have been removed, cleaned, checked, returned and im still in this mess.

By the way when i run the Gear Actuator Adaptation physically the Gears are being changed properly/accurately without any issue.

So is there anyone over here who could save me with this transmission issues with the Lupo cuz i lost all my faith already.

Thank you,

P/S below are the fault codes (presently) because they are changing as well.

2 fault Found:

00838 - Valve 3 for gear Selection (N286)
35-00 - -
00263 - Transmission
20-00 - Malfunction in Basic Settings

Readiness N/A

Please post an Auto-Scan so people can see this in full context.

-Uwe-

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AndrejV said:

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As Uwe has said

Uwe said:

Please post an Auto-Scan so people can see this in full context.

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Bumping this thread before posting an Auto-Scan likely won't help you much.

hey Guys below is the complete Auto Scan report, please check , thank you...


VCDS-Lite Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Version: Release 1.2 www.Ross-Tech.com
Workshop Code: 000 00000
Self-Diagnosis Log Monday, 20 February 2017, 18:01:46:44322
VIN Number: WVWZZZ6EZ1W001951 License Plate: Mileage: Repair Order:
Chassis Type: 6X - VW Lupo Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,17,19,25,35,37,44,45,55,56

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 01: Engine Labels: 045-906-019-AMF.LBL Controller: 045 906 019 K Component: 1,2l R3 EDC 0001DS 1211 Coding: 00002 Shop #: WSC 01286 VCID: 1D4DF75584A9 WVWZZZ6EZ1W001951 VWZ1Z0Y0711015 No fault code found. Readiness: N/A
------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: None Controller: 6N0 927 735 C Component: DS085 Getriebe 1070 Coding: 00000 Shop #: WSC 00000 VCID: 380306C10B4B 4 Faults Found: 01612 - Valve for Clutch Actuator (N255) 36-00 - Open Circuit 00838 - Valve 3 for Gear Selection (N286) 35-00 - 00841 - Transmission Hydraulic Pressure Sensor (G270) 35-00 - 00263 - Transmission 20-10 - Malfunction in Basic Setting - Intermittent
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VCDS-Lite Self-Diagnosis Log Monday, 20 February 2017, 18:01:46:44322 Page 2
VIN Number: WVWZZZ6EZ1W001951 License Plate:
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: None Controller: 6E0 907 379 A Component: ABS 30 IE CAN V006 Coding: 05623 Shop #: WSC 00100 VCID: 2F113D9DFE05 4 Faults Found: 00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left (G47) 35-00 - 00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45) 35-00 - 00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Right (G44) 16-10 - Signal Outside Specifications - Intermittent 00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Right (G44) 04-10 - Mechanical Malfunction - Intermittent
------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.LBL Controller: 6E0 909 605 Component: 02 AIRBAG VW5 0005 Coding: 12338 Shop #: WSC 01286 VCID: E8A316819B6B 5 Faults Found: 00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95) 32-10 - Resistance too High - Intermittent 00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95) 29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent 00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95) 28-10 - Short to Plus - Intermittent 00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95) 33-10 - Resistance too Low - Intermittent 00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 17: Instruments Labels: 6X0-920-xxx-17.LBL Controller: 6E0 920 800 D Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT BOO V07 Coding: 00134 Shop #: WSC 00006 VCID: 2237C4A9BDD7 3 Faults Found: 01314 - Engine Control Module 49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent 01315 - Transmission Control Module 49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent 01316 - ABS Control Module 49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
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VCDS-Lite Self-Diagnosis Log Monday, 20 February 2017, 18:01:46:44322 Page 3
VIN Number: WVWZZZ6EZ1W001951 License Plate:
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.LBL Controller: 6N0 909 901 Component: Gateway K<->CAN Coding: 00023 Shop #: WSC 01286 VCID: F0937EE1A3BB No fault code found.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 6X0-953-257.LBL Controller: 6X0 953 257 Component: IMMO 0007 Coding: 00001 Shop #: WSC 00000 VCID: FD8D57D5E4E9 WVWZZZ6EZ1W001951 VWZ1Z0Y0711015 No fault code found.
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would you be able to assist?

10x

The DS085 is a very unusual transmission. It was only used in the Lupo 3L and the Audi A2 with the same drivetrain. It is not something very many people are familiar with.

-Uwe-

im aware.. thats why i hope someone over here would be able to assist...anyhow thats UWE for taking a look at it

I would start with eliminating and repairing faults one-by-one, then try basic settings as the very last operation, when everything is repaired.
For example clearly electrical fault:
P.S. This car has 1,4l 55kW TDI engine, not 1,2l.
P.P.S Use more readable format for posting autoscan, please, use notepad, for example

MartinsX said:

I would start with eliminating and repairing faults one-by-one, then try basic settings as the very last operation, when everything is repaired.
For example clearly electrical fault:

Code:

01612 - Valve for Clutch Actuator (N255) 36-00 - Open Circuit

P.S. This car has 1,4l 55kW TDI engine, not 1,2l.


P.P.S Use more readable format for posting autoscan, please, use notepad, for example

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Def the engine is 1.2 TDI... We will try to remove the 01612... the ossue is i realy dont know where to start anymore cuz all the electrical has been checked i dont know how many times and all is in order... but i can always try one more time ...lets see what it will do...

To anyone else searching on the same topic... for me the whole issue came out to be the cable connecting the valves on the transmision ... its a tree of cable with many plugs 6 i believe and its above the exhaust which after some time is messing it up...from hot/cold... so its good place to start... tnx