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Hello!
I have a problem with electrical parking brake (EPB) and the car that I’m checking now is Volkswagen Passat 3C (2007). The owner changed the EPB box to the car because it was broken and the new box has same serial number as the previous (original) broken one.
This is the first vcds log, which I read the relevant car:
When the new box has been placed, problems started. There are fault codes and in the car instrumentals there are lights and also EPB button has light and warning sign is making a sound.
I found instructions from Ross-tech website which has this mentioned:
” Coding Note: When replacing the Parking Brake Control Module it is necessary to save a complete Auto-Scan before performing repairs. The ABS Module coding will be lost when the Parking Brake Module is replaced. You MUST have a record of the existing coding or you won't be able re-code the ABS module!”
With these instructions we deleted all the fault codes from ABS side and installed all the basic settings to the sensors. There are still some suspicions about the codes, since I don’t know what ”values” comes in these ”boxes”.
screenshots abs coding:
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ag8Ll-N_wXd2nhBAqwzTyOUluqWs
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ag8Ll-N_wXd2ng5cpUTv4uNQlU_f
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ag8Ll-N_wXd2ng2_dwAJhl--F-Xh
I can’t delete the fault codes from the EPB side. In the previous original box there was this kind of coding:
And in the new one it was like this:
screenshot epb coding:
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ag8Ll-N_wXd2ngTOB75xtA_TO3pI
I have tried to change coding 0000012 to 0000011 but it doesn’t work. It fails in ”error” code.
EPB fault codes looks like this:
- Is it possible that the "new" EPB box is also broken?
- How can I fix this problem?
We can give more information of the car if needed
-V3lmu
I have a problem with electrical parking brake (EPB) and the car that I’m checking now is Volkswagen Passat 3C (2007). The owner changed the EPB box to the car because it was broken and the new box has same serial number as the previous (original) broken one.
This is the first vcds log, which I read the relevant car:
Code:
Saturday,07,January,2017,18:26:40:57660
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.4.2 (x64)
Data version: 20161129 DS267.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
Dealer/Shop Name: J.P
VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ7E021770 License Plate:
Mileage: 243240km-151142mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 3C (3C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 53 55 56 62 69 72
77
VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ7E021770 Mileage: 243240km-151142miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 907 115 Q HW: 8P0 907 115 B
Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0030
Revision: --H14--- Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 040C000318070160
Shop #: WSC 22659 146 95139
VCID: 2E6B4DC5B9F679326B-807A
1 Fault Found:
005634 - Power Supply Terminal 30
P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Load: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: -40.0°C
Temperature: -40.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 0.0 mbar
Voltage: 0.000 V
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3C0-614-095-C2.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 614 095 P HW: 3C0 614 095 P
Component: ESP 440 C2 H015 0004
Revision: H015 Serial number: 0667553737
Coding: 0013728
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2F5550C1BEFC703A60-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 FJ
Component: Climatic PQ35 120 0606
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 71D196B9684826CA36-8024
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 J HW: 3C0 937 049 J
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1301
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000005738010
Coding: E38E8F0700041A00000A00000F000000000B5D435C0000
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 305753BDA3C26FC279-8064
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C1 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW461 012 0503
Coding: 00063445
Shop #: WSC 05311
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AE Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RLS 170506 014 1201
Coding: 00208933
Shop #: WSC 05311
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 3C0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 909 605 K HW: 3C0 909 605 K
Component: 0Q AIRBAG VW8R 029 2521
Revision: 10029000 Serial number: 003A3PA50NVO
Coding: 0012369
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2E6B4DC5B9F679326B-807A
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME0F227835D
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME0F164578I
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6OLLIMQ23H
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6QLLIT4E2G
Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW20.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 A HW: 3C0 953 549 A
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 005 0010
Revision: 00005000 Serial number: 3C9953507C
Coding: 0000014
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
VCID: 2A6341D5851E1512B7-807E
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 3C0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 920 870 T HW: 3C0 920 870 T
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1614
Revision: X0006000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0007105
Shop #: WSC 73000 205 21582
VCID: 345F5FAD57DA53E21D-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 3C0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 C HW: 3C0 907 951 A
Component: Gateway 007 0040
Revision: 00007000 Serial number: 0700C0652011E5
Coding: 7DFD8C44C62002
Shop #: WSC 73000 205 21582
VCID: 2171A6F9F828D64AE6-8074
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 R HW: 3C0 959 433 R
Component: IMMO 042 0383
Revision: 00042000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 39416E9970B8AE8ACE-806C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 F
Component: ELV 026 0380
3C0905861F ELV 026 0380
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 1K0-035-191.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 035 191 D HW: 1K0 035 191 D
Component: J401 0111
Revision: 00015000 Serial number: VWZ1Z2F6237825
Coding: 0043400
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
VCID: 237DACF1E234C45AF4-8076
1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 244
Mileage: 141457 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.03.28
Time: 17:00:52
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 Q HW: 1K0 959 793 M
Component: J386 TUER-SG FT 1123
Revision: 11006001 Serial number: 00000032468504
Coding: 0000183
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3C4F778D7F8A9BA2D5-8068
1 Fault Found:
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 176
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.135 H07 1806
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
VCID: 345F5FAD57DA53E21D-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 3C0-959-433-46.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 R HW: 3C0 959 433 R
Component: KSG PQ46 ELV 042 0472
Revision: 00042000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 0091020051030E763004941570084F0E707C00
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
VCID: 39416E9970B8AE8ACE-806C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted
Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 Q HW: 1K0 959 792 M
Component: J387 TUER-SG BT 1123
Revision: 11006001 Serial number: 00000576768520
Coding: 0000182
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3D497A89649092AAE2-8068
1 Fault Found:
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 176
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 3C0-907-801-53.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 907 801 B HW: 3C0 907 801 B
Component: EPB VC8HC001 013 0001
Revision: 013
Coding: 0000011
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2171A6F9F828D64AE6-8074
5 Faults Found:
02430 - Left Parking Brake Motor (V282) Resistance to Movement
014 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00111110
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 173
Mileage: 243168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.01.05
Time: 05:37:32
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.11 V
Count: 16
02435 - Supply Voltage for Control Module for Right Channel
009 - Open or Short to Ground - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101001
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 200
Reset counter: 58
Mileage: 241528 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.04
Time: 10:14:20
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.42 V
Count: 83
02429 - Right Parking Brake Motor (V283) Clamping Force Not Reached
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110010
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 173
Mileage: 243168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.01.05
Time: 00:07:54
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 7.45 V
Count: 205
02443 - Control Head
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00111100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 7
Reset counter: 173
Mileage: 243168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.01.05
Time: 05:09:28
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 11.39 V
Count: 40
02432 - Supply Voltage for Left Parking Brake Motor (V282)
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00111011
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 31
Reset counter: 173
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.32 V
Count: 84
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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 5M0-907-357-V1.lbl
Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 HW: 5M0 907 357
Component: AFS-Steuergeraet 0003
Revision: H09 Serial number:
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 71D196B9684826CA36-8024
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l X018
Coding: 00000035
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 330
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r X018
Coding: 00000035
1 Fault Found:
02628 - Sensor for Swivel Module Position; Right
014 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101110
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 213
Reset counter: 174
Mileage: 235608 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.09.04
Time: 07:44:00
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-191.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 035 191 D HW: 1K0 035 191 D
Component: R 0111
Revision: 00015000 Serial number: VWZ1Z2F6237825
Coding: 0043400
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
VCID: 237DACF1E234C45AF4-8076
1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 244
Mileage: 141457 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.03.28
Time: 17:00:52
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 P HW: 1K0 959 795 G
Component: J388 TUER-SG HL 1111
Revision: 11004001 Serial number: 00000000105967
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3D497A89649092AAE2-8068
1 Fault Found:
01813 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Rear Left (J388)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 158
Reset counter: 176
Mileage: 234938 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.08.29
Time: 06:49:46
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 69: Trailer Labels: RETROFIT69.lbl
Part No SW: SW0 408 HW: 5F0 07V 010 1
Component: TOWBARMODULE ECS 0010
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 76DBA5A5012601F2E3-8022
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 P HW: 1K0 959 794 G
Component: J389 TUER-SG HR 1110
Revision: 11005001 Serial number: 00000000109654
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3E4B7D85699689B2FB-806A
1 Fault Found:
01814 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Rear Right (J389)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 87
Reset counter: 176
Mileage: 238735 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.10.24
Time: 16:21:25
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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 3C0-035-729.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 035 729 E HW: 3C0 035 729 E
Component: Telefon 6009
Revision: 00009000 Serial number: 0000000741276
Coding: 0016043
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
VCID: 2579B2E9EC003A6A9A-8070
2 Faults Found:
02791 - Telephone baseplate (R126)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 81
Mileage: 222350 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.08
Time: 14:21:52
01524 - Antenna for Telephone
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 81
Mileage: 222350 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.08
Time: 14:21:52
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:46)--------------------------
When the new box has been placed, problems started. There are fault codes and in the car instrumentals there are lights and also EPB button has light and warning sign is making a sound.
I found instructions from Ross-tech website which has this mentioned:
” Coding Note: When replacing the Parking Brake Control Module it is necessary to save a complete Auto-Scan before performing repairs. The ABS Module coding will be lost when the Parking Brake Module is replaced. You MUST have a record of the existing coding or you won't be able re-code the ABS module!”
With these instructions we deleted all the fault codes from ABS side and installed all the basic settings to the sensors. There are still some suspicions about the codes, since I don’t know what ”values” comes in these ”boxes”.
screenshots abs coding:
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ag8Ll-N_wXd2nhBAqwzTyOUluqWs
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ag8Ll-N_wXd2ng5cpUTv4uNQlU_f
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ag8Ll-N_wXd2ng2_dwAJhl--F-Xh
I can’t delete the fault codes from the EPB side. In the previous original box there was this kind of coding:
Code:
Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 3C0-907-801-53.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 907 801 B HW: 3C0 907 801 B
Component: EPB VC8HC001 013 0001
Revision: 013
Coding: 0000011
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2171A6F9F828D64AE6-8074
And in the new one it was like this:
Code:
Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 3C0-907-801-53.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 907 801 B HW: 3C0 907 801 B
Component: EPB VC8HC001 013 0001
Revision: 013
Coding: 0000012
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2171A6F9F828D649CC-8074
screenshot epb coding:
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ag8Ll-N_wXd2ngTOB75xtA_TO3pI
I have tried to change coding 0000012 to 0000011 but it doesn’t work. It fails in ”error” code.
EPB fault codes looks like this:
Code:
Wednesday,01,February,2017,14:55:18:57660
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170131 DS267.1
www.Ross-Tech.com
Dealer/Shop Name: J.P
Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 3C0-907-801-53.clb
Control Module Part Number: 3C0 907 801 B HW: 3C0 907 801 B
Component and/or Version: EPB VC8HC001 013 0001
Software Coding: 0000012
Work Shop Code: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2171A6F9F828D649CC-8074
5 Faults Found:
01087 - Basic Setting Not Performed
000 - - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 84
Reset counter: 152
Mileage: 243432 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.01.12
Time: 01:41:36
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.11 V
Count: 170
02428 - Left Parking Brake Motor (V282) Clamping Force Not Reached
000 - - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 84
Reset counter: 152
Mileage: 243432 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.01.12
Time: 01:41:36
02844 - Lamp for Automatic Parking Function
009 - Open or Short to Ground - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 17
Reset counter: 184
Mileage: 243864 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.01.25
Time: 22:42:39
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 11.59 V
Count: 64
01487 - System Function Test
008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 17
Reset counter: 184
Mileage: 243864 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.01.25
Time: 22:42:39
02435 - Supply Voltage for Control Module for Right Channel
009 - Open or Short to Ground - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 103
Reset counter: 93
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 11.80 V
Count: 113
- Is it possible that the "new" EPB box is also broken?
- How can I fix this problem?
We can give more information of the car if needed
-V3lmu
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