THE FOD FUN THREAD " GIVE BEFORE IT HURTS" !

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POST YOUR FOD HERE..............BE PROUD OF WHAT YOU FIND!

FOD = Foreign object damage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_object_damage


Here is yesterdays find.........

Oh nuts!


http://imgur.com/a/rUn6L

rUn6L




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Art... I have it on good authority, that the standard excuse from patients who come in with this type of "injury", is that they fell on it, while showering.
 
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Ah .........sir question was this an accident, recreation...........or intentional mischief.

Same applies to car repair.........:rolleyes:

I guess the banana in the tailpipe never gets old.

 
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^^^^ the link is astonishing!!! Never imagined that human body could accommodate so many (large) objects! Why in God's green earth would anyone feel the need to insert an aerosol can into their body? And more importantly how is it removed without surgery - what went in, can come out in the same way (I guess)?

Don
 
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Guess why there was no signal from MAF on this car?

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Wednesday,11,January,2017,15:53:56:32442
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 16.8.4.2
Data version: 20161129 DS267.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345

VIN: VSSZZZ5PZ8R042467   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 5P (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: VSSZZZ5PZ8R042467   Mileage: 252560km-156933miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
   Part No SW: 03G 906 021 SN    HW: 03G 906 021 AN
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG  1456  
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: SEX7Z0GD31B0Q8
   Coding: 0050078
   Shop #: WSC 04941 785 00200
   VCID: 7DF193CB248FD4AAA2-8028

3 Faults Found:

005661 - Glowplug for Cylinder 4 (Q13) 
               P161D - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01110000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 216709 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 08:01:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1281 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 11.55 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101000
                    Temperature: 6.3°C
                    Bin. Bits: 10110000

005660 - Glowplug for Cylinder 3 (Q12) 
               P161C - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01110000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 239708 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 08:27:41

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 840 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.74 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101011
                    Temperature: 6.3°C
                    Bin. Bits: 10110000

000258 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
               P0102 - 000 - Signal too Low
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01110000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 252486 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:03:18

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 819 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Duty Cycle: 79.7 %
                    Bin. Bits: 00101000
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 410.0 mg/str
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str


Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
 
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Guess why there was no signal from MAF on this car?
Someone installed the glow harness in the MAF location.
Missing......wrong part or someone installed a resistor.....:D
 
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Forgot glow plugs. 2 of them had open circuit, indeed. Glow faults are not connected with MAF fault.

MAF fault was stored because no power supplied to MAF. Power was not supplied because of blown fuse.

But why fuse was blown? :confused:
 
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A shared track shorted or someone installed a AFT component....... wrong or blown light bulb installed?

This isn't the guess what the FOD thread is.........
 
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I can't classify source of short circuit another way than FOD. But this time it is made by VAG engineers...

Long story short: Car is Seat Altea XL, MY 2008, 2,0l 16v TDI engine BKD. Fuse was blown. I checked wiring diagram - there are two parts in engine compartment powered from the same fuse - MAF and crankcase breather heater element. This is first FOD! Who decided to supply power for important sensor (MAF) from the same fuse as breather heater??? I have seen more than 10 breather heaters with internal short circuit or partial short circuit (overcurrent). But not this time. Heater was clean nice and with current consumption approx 0,8A. But intermittent short circuit exists. Mostly it was not shorted with engine off and reappears some seconds after engine started. Rechecked wiring diagram - nothing more powered from this fuse. Disassembled almost all wiring in engine compartment - no damages in typical places for Golf5 based cars - loom in front part of engine - nice, loom under battery try - another wire found partially damaged, but not connected with circuits I'm looking for. Next I moved in passenger compartment. Wire from fuse holder disappears in main wiring harness, taller as my hand. It reappears in engine compartment already as 2 wires with different color marking. OK, splicing must be somewhere inside. Physically disassembling main harness looked unreal, I used another methods - connected multimeter beeper between suspected wire and ground and started to shake wiring harness, and it beeped shortly couple of times. Ok, already some results. Checked carefully how and where wiring is fitted and fixed, found that loom is pressed against sharp corner of steering column adjustment mechanism. Removed steering column, opened wiring loom in suspected place and... nothing again! Only outer layers of insulating tape around loom were cut with sharp metal, no damages to wires. So I started to think from another end - I recalled from my own experience, that sometimes in VAG diagrams all components powered from one fuse are not shown in wiring diagram, if components belong to another system as diagram is titled. So I started to check another diagrams for this car searching for fuse SC15 and made two findings: under "Basic Equipment" another wire from the same fuse was shown - for manual headlight level correction. Quickly checked this circuit - everything ok with it.
So now I'll take a minute off from writing in English and give some time for guessing what else is powered from the same fuse as MAF :D (Only original equipment, no aftermarket installations in this car) :D:D:D
 
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See this is where a tone generator is my best friend always.............
 
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See this is where a tone generator is my best friend always.............

Do You use some specific for automotive applications? I have worked a lot with one for telecom lines, it works fine for finding pairs in comm cables between buildings or between rooms, but in relatively short wiring looms (like in car) probe is beeping everywhere from induced signal in wires located parallel with wire where generator is connected :(
 
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Do You use some specific for automotive applications? I have worked a lot with one for telecom lines, it works fine for finding pairs in comm cables between buildings or between rooms, but in relatively short wiring looms (like in car) probe is beeping everywhere from induced signal in wires located parallel with wire where generator is connected :(


That is true when using it conventionally.........
Try different configs with the ground to change broadcast and watch what happens.........

I like the Fluke stuff........and also uses LED for visual that is sometimes helpful to watch the gain.
 
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Guess which part if removed & discarded from an ALH,AHU, or 1Z TDI series type VE series vehicle............ will result in improved emissions and 10-15 MPG gains + a power increase?


FYI it's not EGR.........
 
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