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    Nope it's a retro fit.........& by means of verification in the etka.

    Fix it right or take to retrofits........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Nope it's a retro fit.........& by means of verification in the etka.

    Fix it right or take to retrofits........
    your attitude stinks!

    I don't have the resources to check these things on etka and the main dealer tells me the module is correct. I can only take this at face value!

    I come here asking for help and all your interested in is being an arse banging on about it being a retrofit. As far as I'm aware it's not a retrofiit as the car was bought like this, but your telling me it is.

    So instead of being awkward pointing out things that isn't resolving the issue

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    your attitude stinks!

    I don't have the resources to check these things on etka and the main dealer tells me the module is correct. I can only take this at face value!

    I come here asking for help and all your interested in is being an arse banging on about it being a retrofit. As far as I'm aware it's not a retrofiit as the car was bought like this, but your telling me it is.

    So instead of being awkward pointing out things that isn't resolving the issue


    This is not meant to be argumentative, nor not help or make you feel stupid.

    I will not deviate from my path of the JPPSG, nor known good diagnostic practices I have acquired for 35 years of experience........
    Look at it like this ...........it's kind of like when Maverick leaves his wing man, and Goose dies in Top Gun.
    Do you really need that life lesson?

    Until you recognize that the part numbers are wrong by Jef and me.........we both verified what we thought was the problem for misapplication here...... and substantiated it.

    This is a retrofit and should be taken to that section, because it is not a repair.

    When you are ready to repair it correctly I'm sure RT or I will try and help you further.

    I will not help you, nor do I expect people to help in this section for "REPAIR" to alter a configuration for a retrofit, especially when I know the correct parts are available to repair the vehicle.

    Ask yourself why you fail an inspection here & for a vehicle which is being used to provide public services or by your own admission/government.

    I'm sorry I just don't see your point here, nor hostility.

    All joking around ceased........fix the car correctly as per the etka, dealer verification, parts link like Jef stated, and by the repair manual guidelines at Erwin.

    Even guys in retrofits understand the power of crossing stuff by using good information guidelines. this forum section is not a circumvention point for you to bifurcate that process in either section either.

    You must realize you are here because you don't know what you are doing right?
    When you don't accept the good information guidelines with true intent to help you, time already spent, this is very insulting to the entire forum.

    I will not bother you further, and defer you to the great powers at RT.

    Have fun.........hope you enjoy your holidays and good luck with your RETROFIT!
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    Sometime i feel like:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
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    This is a retrofit and should be taken to that section, because it is not a repair.
    Guess this has to be addressed to Uwe.
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    It's not an "intentional" retrofit.

    The OP claims the car was purchased with that part already installed and he'd like to fix it, which is why I've left it in Repair.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    It's not an "intentional" retrofit.

    The OP claims the car was purchased with that part already installed and he'd like to fix it, which is why I've left it in Repair.

    -Uwe-
    Understood just checking.......due to liability concerns.
    Should intention have to do with repair procedure, when the correct parts are available for the car or when being used for public use to provide a service?
    Here DOT regulations are more scrutinized for commercial applications, not so sure about the backward UK........ that's why this place was made.
    I'm all for trying something when situations arise where information or compatibility is suppressed by the OEM, & in order to force a customer to the dealer such as ABS long coding.
    I also appreciate saving money..........


    Okay am onboard now..........after my stupid rant sorry if I sound cautious.......it's because I am........ since I'm not in the UK.
    How about the customer code out or swap the instrument cluster possibly or use later gateway?

    0x01 is coded for stick....
    0x03 No DTC and checks out but wrong part.
    0x17 is most likely tampered or maybe just plain faulty from FOD........it does have a DTC.....!
    0x53 wrong part.

    3C0 920 960 HX INDEX Z02 and I find no listing for the 3C0 cluster which is in the scan, nor in kind auto-scans on the net.
    3C0 614 109 A ( 15653 ) FOD> 3C0 614 109 D ( Coding: 0001282 )

    1 Fault Found:
    00003 - Control Module
    014 - Defective
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101110
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2013.09.09
    Time: 00:00:05



    I would unplug the cluster and the ABS while erasing DTC's in the 0x53 to see if fault will vacate.
    Do this to check what is sending a network message, because I don't expect him to have a CAN-analyzer, being he doesn't even have basics to proceed properly.


    Vehicle data

    Vehicle Identification No. WVWZZZ3CZ6P210457
    Model passat sedan
    PA
    Date of production 28.04.2006
    Year 2006
    Sales type 3C2111
    Engine Code BXE
    Transmission Code HNV
    Axle drive 5S
    Equipment UR
    Roof color D1
    Exterior color / Paint Code D1 / D1W

    Vehicle Identification No.: WVWZZZ3CZ6P210457
    PR Number

    "Multimedia", video/DVD/notebook connection 9WC Without "Multimedia" in vehicle
    Activated carbon canister 1E0 Without activated charcoal canister
    Additional child seat anchors 3B4 Child seat anchor for
    child seat system ISOFIX
    Additional tires (winter tires) 2WA Without additional tires
    Additional warning lights 9TC Additional reflectors (door area)
    Air bag 4UE Air bag for driver and front seat
    passenger
    Antennas 8ZH Antenna for AM/FM reception, "diversity"
    Anti-theft protection system 7AL Anti-theft alarm system, passenger
    compartment control, backup horn and
    towing protection
    Audio-response system/voice control QH0 Without voice control
    Auxiliary heating 9M0 Without auxiliary/parking heater
    Backrest release 3H0 Without backrest release for front seats
    Base engine T71 4-cylinder diesel engine 1.9 L
    unit 03G.1
    Batteries J0N Battery 330 A (61 Ah)
    Body measures 5C0 Without special body measures
    Body style K8B Notchback
    Brackets 3P0 Without bracket for first aid kit and
    warning triangle
    Brake type, front 1LJ Disc brakes, front
    Brake type, rear 1KU Disc brakes, rear
    Braking systems 1AT Electronic stabilization program (ESP)
    Breakaway interior mirror 4L2 Dipping breakaway interior rear view
    mirror
    Bumper 2JC Comfort bumpers
    Carrier frequency for radio remote control 5D1 Carrier frequency 433.92 MHz-434.42 Mhz
    Cassette and CD storage unit 4W0 Without cassette and CD storage unit
    CD changer/CD player 7A0 Without CD changer/CD player
    CD ROM/DVD/SD card 7QA Without CD/DVD for navigation
    Center armrest 6E3 Front center armrest
    Center console 3D3 Center console
    Center rear seat belts 3C7 3-point seat belt for center rear seat
    Child seats QA0 Without child seat
    Climatic zones 0Y1 Standard climatic zones
    Compass/traffic sign display QR0 Ohne Kompass
    Component part sets with country-specific design requirements B0N Component parts set, complying with
    vehicle type for Great Britain, various
    parts
    Country codes FE0 Without country code (no DVD player in
    vehicle)
    Cruise control 8T2 Cruise control system (CCS)
    electronic
    Cruise control warning and speed limit system 6Y9 W/o cruise control speed limit system
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    Customized installation FC0 Without customized installation
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    operated from inside and safe securing
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    Drive layout 1X0 Front wheel drive
    Electric interface for external use UF0 Without electric interface
    Electronic map cooling system QS0 Without electronic map cooling system
    Emission standard 0GG Emission standard EU4
    Engine cooling system 8Z5 Not hot country
    Engine specifications D3W 4-cyl. turbo diesel engine 1.9 L/77 kW
    TDI with pump-jet injection system
    Base engine is T71/TG0/TD0/T5X
    Equipment levels A8C Comfort equipment
    Exterior mirror setting 6XN Exterior mirrors: electrically
    adjustable, separately heated
    Exterior noise suppression measures 2B0 Without additional exterior noise
    suppression
    Fire extinguisher 6A0 Without fire extinguisher
    First aid kit / warning triangle 1T0 Without first aid kit and warning
    triangle
    Floor mats 0TA Without floor mats
    Front fog light/additional headlight 8WA Without front fog light
    Front license plate bracket 6W1 License plate bracket front (large)
    Front seat, left 3TF Comfort seat, front left
    Front seat, right 3SF Comfort seat, front right
    Front underbody guard 1SA Without additional front underbody guard
    Fuel quantity for initial filling 1Z2 Increase in initial standard fuel
    filling
    Fuel systems 0F9 Cooled fuel system for diesel engine
    Gearshift knob/handle 6Q2 Leather gearshift knob/handle
    General operating permit, alterations C09 Operating permit, alteration
    Generators 8GV Alternator 180 A
    Headlight 8BK Twin headlight for driving on the left,
    with integrated high beam
    Headlight activation 8K0 Without special headlight
    activation
    Headlight washer system 8X0 Without headlight washer system
    Headlight-range adjustment 8Q1 Headlight-range adjustment
    Headphone port, rear 8MA Without headphone port rear
    Heat accumulator system/additional heater 7E6 Electric auxiliary air heater
    Heated washer nozzles 9T0 Without heated washer nozzles
    Heating and air conditioning system 9AP Climatic air-conditioning system
    (semi-automatic)
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    fuel
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    Installation differentiation for vehicle components 0EJ Installation differentiation for
    transmission MQ 250
    vehicle components
    Installation parts for engine (engine mount system) 1VG Installation parts for four-cylinder
    engine
    Instrument inserts U5B Instrument insert, mph speedometer
    Great Britain
    Interior light in foot area 6T0 Without interior light in footwell
    Left exterior mirror 5SJ Left exterior mirror: convex
    Left vanity mirror 4SL Vanity mirror, left, illuminated
    extractable sun visor
    Lock operation for tailgate/trunk lid 4E2 Tailgate/trunk lid release
    from inside (electrically)
    Lockable wheel bolts 1PE Wheel bolts with anti-theft protection
    (unlockable)
    Luggage compartment floor covering 6SE Flat needle-punched trunk floor covering
    Lumbar support 7P8 Electrically adjustable lumbar support
    for right front seat
    Manufacturing sequence differentiation 0FG Mosel manufacturing sequence
    Mass damper for steering wheels 1Q0 Without mass damper for steering wheel
    Moldings 4ZB Bright moldings
    Multi-function display/trip computer 9Q1 Multi-function display/on-board computer
    Nameplate set 1DG Nameplate set "TDI"
    Navigation device 7Q0 Without navigation device
    Operating voltage 9Z0 Operating voltage 12V
    Outer rear seat belts 3ZB 3-point seat belts, outer rear with ECE
    label
    Owner's manuals 0VF Information kit in English
    Paint coating FB0 Standard paint coating
    Paint preservative/transit coating 5K0 Ohne Lackkonservierung
    Park distance control 7X0 Without park distance control
    Parking brake UH1 Parking brake
    Partition 3CA Without partition
    Pedestrian protection VL1 Erweiterte Fußgängerschutzmaßnahmen
    Preparation for sound combination for rotating emergency light 9F0 Without sound combination for rotating
    emergency light and radio antenna
    preparation
    Preparation for two-way radio installation 9D0 Without preparation for two-way radio
    installation
    Protective side molding 4B4 Protective side molding
    Radiator grille 6KA Radiator grille
    Radios 8YL Radio with CD player
    Reading light 8S7 Two reading lights front
    Rear cargo area 3GA Without cargo area
    Rear fog light 8TD Rear fog light for driving on the left
    Rear license plate bracket 6P1 License plate bracket rear (ECE)
    Rear seats 3NU Rear seat bench unsplit, backrest split
    folding with center armrest
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    height adjustment, front
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    Right vanity mirror 4TG Right vanity mirror illuminated
    extractable sun visor
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    Roof rails/roof load rack 3S0 Without roof rails/roof load rack
    Scuff plates 7M0 Plastic scuff plates in door apertures
    Seat adjustment 3L3 Manual height adjustment for front seats
    Seat belt check 9P1 Seat belt reminder, electric
    contact in buckle
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    Seat ventilation/massage seat 4D0 Without seat ventilation/massage seat
    Second battery/battery installation 8FA Without second battery
    Service interval prolongation QG1 Service interval prolongation
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    Shock absorption, chassis, rear 1JA Rear shock absorption, basic design 1
    Side air bag 4X3 Side air bag front with curtain air bag
    Side and rear windows 4KC Side and rear windows in heat-insulating
    glass
    Side lights 7R3 Side turn signal lights (white)
    Ski bag 3X2 Load-through provision
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    equipment tires
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    (Servotronic)
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    Transit coating NT0 Transit coating (type 1)
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    Ireland
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    equipment
    Weight category front axle L02 Suspension range 02
    installation control only, no
    requirement forecast
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    installation control only, no
    requirement forecast
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    Offset 45
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    circuit breaker
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    with potentiometer (four speeds)
    PA1 Leather steering wheel (3-spoke)
    PJN "Catalunya" (right-hand drive) - 4 alloy
    wheels 7J x 16 - tires 215/55 R 16
    RAC "RCD 300" 4 x 20 W, 8 loudspeakers
    WD7 Anti-theft alarm system "Plus" -Single
    door opening and comfort locking-EU
    right-hand drive vehicle
    FOD ..........give before it hurts...........

    You could try some of these controllers if found used.


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    Last edited by Jack@European_Parts; 12-04-2016 at 12:29 AM.
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    Tried unplugging instruments and made no difference to the fault code

    Unplugged the abs module and stopped all communication to the epb module

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    Tried unplugging instruments and made no difference to the fault code

    Unplugged the abs module and stopped all communication to the epb module
    Okay sir.......
    There are a few inputs and links direct from the cluster J285 to the J540 including some shared fuses........better have a look in WD.

    Very good that is what should happen when ABS is unplugged, because the ABS has the J540 piggy backed to the ABS via CAN.

    Additionally WD revels an important ground point & which maybe missing in your inherited retrofit as detailed below.

    Please investigate it.......& the aforementioned cluster in post #27.

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