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    TBA

    Was gettng fault code:
    00516 closed throttle (idle) position switch f60 2700 implausible signal

    Ive removed the throttle body on a 1.4 16v ahw, cleaned it and refitted. Used a pole to hold accelerator down, pulled the cable back just to the point were throttle body butterfly was open.


    Heres a vid off the vcds process, am now getting basic setting not complete error, the engine refuses to idle and cuts out


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    Please post an Auto-Scan.

    If this is a cable-throttle engine, the cable needs to have a bit of slack in it when the throttle is closed.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    its cable throttle
    Code:
    VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2
    Sunday, 16 October 2016, 16:41:05:3906
    
    
    Chassis Type: 17 - VW Golf Citi
    Scan: 01,09,15,17,25,56
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine       Labels: 036-906-014-AHW.LBL
       Controller: 036 906 014 AN
       Component:  MARELLI 4CV       2893
       Coding: 00031
       Shop #: WSC 00028
       VCID: 5CCB1831DF33
    1 Fault Found:
    01087 -  Basic Setting Not Performed
                35-00 -   -
    Readiness: N/A
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags       Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.LBL
       Controller: 6Q0 909 605 A
       Component: Y2 AIRBAG VW5       0003
       Coding: 22834
       Shop #: WSC 00028
       VCID: 351DAD951C59
    1 Fault Found:
    00532 -  Supply Voltage B+
                07-10 -  Signal too Low - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments       Labels: 1J0-920-xx0-17.LBL
       Controller: 1J0 920 901 
       Component: A4-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V12 
       Coding: 01441
       Shop #: WSC 00001
       VCID: E0B3ACC1735B
       IMMO-IDENTNR: VWZ7Z0X1452133       
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer       Labels: None
       Controller: Bit teA dre sst
       Component: e 17 eingeben          
       VCID: CEEF627919CF
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error ocurred
    
    End   --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Last edited by joe67; 10-16-2016 at 10:54 AM.

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    after engines been started

    Code:
    VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2
    Sunday, 16 October 2016, 16:51:59:3906
    
    
    Chassis Type: 17 - VW Golf Citi
    Scan: 01,09,15,17,25,56
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine       Labels: 036-906-014-AHW.LBL
       Controller: 036 906 014 AN
       Component:  MARELLI 4CV       2893
       Coding: 00031
       Shop #: WSC 00028
       VCID: 5CCB1831DF33
    2 Faults Found:
    00282 -  Throttle Position Actuator (V60)
                26-00 -  Output Open
    01087 -  Basic Setting Not Performed
                35-00 -   -
    Readiness: N/A
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags       Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.LBL
       Controller: 6Q0 909 605 A
       Component: Y2 AIRBAG VW5       0003
       Coding: 22834
       Shop #: WSC 00028
       VCID: 351DAD951C59
    1 Fault Found:
    00532 -  Supply Voltage B+
                07-10 -  Signal too Low - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments       Labels: 1J0-920-xx0-17.LBL
       Controller: 1J0 920 901 
       Component: A4-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V12 
       Coding: 01441
       Shop #: WSC 00001
       VCID: E0B3ACC1735B
       IMMO-IDENTNR: VWZ7Z0X1452133       
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer       Labels: None
       Controller: Bit teA dre sst
       Component: e 17 eingeben          
       VCID: CEEF627919CF
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error ocurred
    
    End   --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    edit: cable has slack

    the for cleaning the tb is the engine was hunting and cutting out


    the original fault code was 00516 closed throttle (idle) position switch f60 2700 implausible signal
    Last edited by joe67; 10-16-2016 at 11:07 AM.

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    I would suggest that whatever is causing this needs to be fixed:

    Code:
    00282 -  Throttle Position Actuator (V60)
                26-00 -  Output Open
    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    I would suggest that whatever is causing this needs to be fixed:



    -Uwe-
    Completely agree. Bad wiring, bad throttle motor, bad output driver IC inside ECU in the worst case.

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    narrowed it down to the throttle body, it shows as throttle open on vcds even with cable disconnected. bridging pins 3 and 7 on the throttle body plug changed it to idle

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    The best way is to replace TB with new one. Or used one, if You want to save some money. Is Your TB clean inside? No soot or something like it not allowing full range movement of throttle?

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    Already cleaned the Tb mate, hence the TBA. Going to go for a known working used one and see how it goes. Thanks for the help

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    Code:
    VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2
    Thursday, 20 October 2016, 13:20:02:3906
    
    Chassis Type: 17 - VW Golf Citi
    Scan: 01,09,15,17,25,56
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine       Labels: 036-906-014-AHW.LBL
       Controller: 036 906 014 AN
       Component:  MARELLI 4CV       2893
       Coding: 00031
       Shop #: WSC 00028
       VCID: 5CCB1831DF33
    1 Fault Found:
    01087 -  Basic Setting Not Performed
                35-00 -   -
    Readiness: N/A
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags       Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.LBL
       Controller: 6Q0 909 605 A
       Component: Y2 AIRBAG VW5       0003
       Coding: 22834
       Shop #: WSC 00028
       VCID: 351DAD951C59
    1 Fault Found:
    00532 -  Supply Voltage B+
                07-10 -  Signal too Low - Intermittent
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments       Labels: 1J0-920-xx0-17.LBL
       Controller: 1J0 920 901 
       Component: A4-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V12 
       Coding: 01441
       Shop #: WSC 00001
       VCID: E0B3ACC1735B
       IMMO-IDENTNR: VWZ7Z0X1452133       
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer       Labels: None
       Controller: Bit teA dre sst
       Component: e 17 eingeben          
       VCID: CEEF627919CF
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error ocurred
    End   --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    00282 - Throttle Position Actuator(V60)
    26-00 - Output Open


    isnt returning now, it will if engine is started

    edit: to avoid any mix up, the above means the code only returned after the engine has been started.



    It goes straight to error when i first put 098 into basic settings, i then switch to measuring blocks using the tab at the bottom left and it shows the same results, i then switch back to basic settings, sometimes for a split second its shows ADP OK then quickly changes to error.
    Last edited by joe67; 10-20-2016 at 09:56 AM.

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