Hi all, I recently purchased a 9N Polo TDI Sport (AMF engine) which requires a little work, I’ve been investigating the main issues but now require some assistance. The main problem is with the lack of power steering – when I first picked it up the steering warning light was permanently on and the glowplug light was flashing, the fault “01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500), 49-00 - No Communications” comes up on a few modules (Address 09: Cent. Elect.; Address 17: Instruments; Address 19: CAN Gateway) and I could not get communications with the steering assist module. I noticed this entry on the wiki http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01309 -
“If 01309 is stored in multiple Control Modules and the Steering Aid (#44/J500) does not communicate with the Scan tool, check the Steering Aid Control Module Power Supply. Assuming the Fused Power Supplies (typically 2 fuses are used) are OK, in almost all cases the actual Steering Rack (containing the Control Module) is faulty and needs to be replaced.”
After a bit of investigation I found that fuse F7 had blown. This was replaced and the steering light went out and I could communicate with the steering module, until the engine was started. After starting the engine it reverted back to its previous state with no comms and warning light on. The fuse was still intact but by the next day the battery had discharged, so something on this circuit is drawing current with the ignition off…
Auto Scan Before Replacing F7 & Brake Switch
Auto Scan After Replacing F7 & Brake Switch and After DTC Clear
Auto Scan After Starting Engine
The wiki comment on 01309 states the control module is contained in the steering rack, but as far as I can tell the only electronics in the rack is the steering angle sensor, plus when I could communicate the steering module VCDS listed the manufacturer (TRW) and Part No. for the pump. I’m happy to be proved wrong here but surely the control module is in the pump unit?
I’m leaning towards going ahead and replacing the pump but as it’s a significant cost compared to what I paid for the car I’m hesitant to do this until I have further proof, your thoughts would appreciated.
If I were to replace the pump I understand that there is some configuration to do in VCDS, does anyone have information on how to carry this out?
Another issue is that I have the code “16955 - Brake Switch (F) P0571 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal”, I have replaced the RH bulb and the switch on the pedal and the brake lights work but the fault is still present even after a DTC Clear, is there something else I’m missing?
I'm not too worried about the Air Con faults at the moment (unless this circuit can affect anything else), a job for another day.
Apologies for the long first post but trying to cover everything, if anything else is required or if I've done something incorrectly please let me know.
Thanks!
“If 01309 is stored in multiple Control Modules and the Steering Aid (#44/J500) does not communicate with the Scan tool, check the Steering Aid Control Module Power Supply. Assuming the Fused Power Supplies (typically 2 fuses are used) are OK, in almost all cases the actual Steering Rack (containing the Control Module) is faulty and needs to be replaced.”
After a bit of investigation I found that fuse F7 had blown. This was replaced and the steering light went out and I could communicate with the steering module, until the engine was started. After starting the engine it reverted back to its previous state with no comms and warning light on. The fuse was still intact but by the next day the battery had discharged, so something on this circuit is drawing current with the ignition off…
Auto Scan Before Replacing F7 & Brake Switch
Code:
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.2 (x64)
Data version: 20140212
Monday,16,June,2014,19:42:59:04974
Chassis Type: 9N (9N - VW Polo (2002 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 45 46 56 76
VIN: WVWZZZ9NZ4Y164717 Mileage: 178580km/110964miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 045-906-019-AMF.clb
Part No: 045 906 019 BF
Component: 1,4l R3 EDC 0000SG 5179
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 5AB08C8EC60C17CEB53-4AE6
WVWZZZ9NZ4Y164717 VWZ7Z0D9098575
2 Faults Found:
16955 - Brake Switch (F)
P0571 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
18062 - Please check DTC Memory of Instrument Cluster
P1654 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 6Q0-907-37x-ABS2.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 907 379 L
Component: ABS FRONT MK60 0101
Coding: 0001097
Shop #: WSC 00788 785 00200
VCID: 468848FE32B4832EE1B-5102
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 6Q0-820-045.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 820 045
Component: Klimaanlage X0840
VCID: EAD05C4E966C074EA53-5120
2 Faults Found:
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
07-00 - Signal too Low
00705 - Relay for Coolant Fan; Stage 1 (J279)
31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 6Qx-937-049-C.lbl
Part No: 6Q1 937 049 D
Component: 0000 BN-SG. 1S34
Coding: 09390
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 3C7C2A162C78C9FE87F-5120
1 Fault Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 K
Component: 0J AIRBAG VW51 0N 0008
Coding: 12362
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2C5C1A56DC18597E17F-5102
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 6Q0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 920 920 G
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V18
Coding: 01432
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 346C0236042801BE4FF-5120
WVWZZZ9NZ4Y164717 VWZ7Z0D9098575
2 Faults Found:
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: 0010 GATEWAY CAN 1S34
Coding: 00014
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: F0E44E26B0B0FD9EEB7-5102
1 Fault Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 6Q0-951-171.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 951 171
Component: Innenraumueberw. 0019
VCID: EFE64D5AAD8EE266F2D-5102
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 6Q0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 959 433 E
Component: 4M Komfortgerát 0002
Coding: 00064
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 3D7A27123762C0F6B01-4AE6
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 6Q1959801A
Component: 4M Tõrsteuer.FS TFK 0004
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 6Q1959802A
Component: 4M Tõrsteuer.BF TFK 0004
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
Part No: 6N0 035 186 B
Component: Radio BNO 0006
Coding: 06403
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2D5A1752E7025076001-4ACE
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------Auto Scan After Replacing F7 & Brake Switch and After DTC Clear
Code:
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.2 (x64)
Data version: 20140212
Tuesday,24,June,2014,18:06:01:04974
Chassis Type: 9N (9N - VW Polo (2002 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 45 46 56 76
VIN: WVWZZZ9NZ4Y164717 Mileage: 178580km/110964miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 045-906-019-AMF.clb
Part No: 045 906 019 BF
Component: 1,4l R3 EDC 0000SG 5179
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 5AB08C8EC60C17CEB53-4AE6
WVWZZZ9NZ4Y164717 VWZ7Z0D9098575
1 Fault Found:
16955 - Brake Switch (F)
P0571 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 6Q0-907-37x-ABS2.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 907 379 L
Component: ABS FRONT MK60 0101
Coding: 0001097
Shop #: WSC 00788 785 00200
VCID: 468848FE32B4832EE1B-5120
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 6Q0-820-045.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 820 045
Component: Klimaanlage X0840
VCID: EAD05C4E966C074EA53-5120
2 Faults Found:
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
07-00 - Signal too Low
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 6Qx-937-049-C.lbl
Part No: 6Q1 937 049 D
Component: 0000 BN-SG. 1S34
Coding: 09390
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 3C7C2A162C78C9FE87F-5102
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 K
Component: 0J AIRBAG VW51 0N 0008
Coding: 12362
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2C5C1A56DC18597E17F-5102
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 6Q0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 920 920 G
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V18
Coding: 01432
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 346C0236042801BE4FF-5102
WVWZZZ9NZ4Y164717 VWZ7Z0D9098575
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: 0010 GATEWAY CAN 1S34
Coding: 00014
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: F0E44E26B0B0FD9EEB7-5120
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6Q0 423 156 M
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V210
Coding: 00140
Shop #: WSC 13765
VCID: 39723302234AFCD69C9-5120
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 6Q0-951-171.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 951 171
Component: Innenraumueberw. 0019
VCID: EFE64D5AAD8EE266F2D-5102
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 6Q0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 959 433 E
Component: 4M Komfortgerát 0002
Coding: 00064
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 3D7A27123762C0F6B01-4AE6
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 6Q1959801A
Component: 4M Tõrsteuer.FS TFK 0004
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 6Q1959802A
Component: 4M Tõrsteuer.BF TFK 0004
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
Part No: 6N0 035 186 B
Component: Radio BNO 0006
Coding: 06403
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2D5A1752E7025076001-4ACE
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------Auto Scan After Starting Engine
Code:
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.2 (x64)
Data version: 20140212
Tuesday,24,June,2014,18:11:00:04974
Chassis Type: 9N (9N - VW Polo (2002 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 45 46 56 76
VIN: WVWZZZ9NZ4Y164717 Mileage: 178580km/110964miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 045-906-019-AMF.clb
Part No: 045 906 019 BF
Component: 1,4l R3 EDC 0000SG 5179
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 5AB08C8EC60C17CEB53-4AE6
WVWZZZ9NZ4Y164717 VWZ7Z0D9098575
1 Fault Found:
16955 - Brake Switch (F)
P0571 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 6Q0-907-37x-ABS2.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 907 379 L
Component: ABS FRONT MK60 0101
Coding: 0001097
Shop #: WSC 00788 785 00200
VCID: 468848FE32B4832EE1B-5120
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 6Q0-820-045.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 820 045
Component: Klimaanlage X0840
VCID: EAD05C4E966C074EA53-5120
3 Faults Found:
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
07-00 - Signal too Low
00705 - Relay for Coolant Fan; Stage 1 (J279)
31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 6Qx-937-049-C.lbl
Part No: 6Q1 937 049 D
Component: 0000 BN-SG. 1S34
Coding: 09390
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 3C7C2A162C78C9FE87F-5120
1 Fault Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 K
Component: 0J AIRBAG VW51 0N 0008
Coding: 12362
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2C5C1A56DC18597E17F-5120
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 6Q0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 920 920 G
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V18
Coding: 01432
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 346C0236042801BE4FF-5120
WVWZZZ9NZ4Y164717 VWZ7Z0D9098575
1 Fault Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: 0010 GATEWAY CAN 1S34
Coding: 00014
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: F0E44E26B0B0FD9EEB7-5120
1 Fault Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 6Q0-951-171.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 951 171
Component: Innenraumueberw. 0019
VCID: EFE64D5AAD8EE266F2D-5102
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 6Q0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 959 433 E
Component: 4M Komfortgerát 0002
Coding: 00064
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 3D7A27123762C0F6B01-4AE6
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 6Q1959801A
Component: 4M Tõrsteuer.FS TFK 0004
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 6Q1959802A
Component: 4M Tõrsteuer.BF TFK 0004
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
Part No: 6N0 035 186 B
Component: Radio BNO 0006
Coding: 06403
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2D5A1752E7025076001-4ACE
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------The wiki comment on 01309 states the control module is contained in the steering rack, but as far as I can tell the only electronics in the rack is the steering angle sensor, plus when I could communicate the steering module VCDS listed the manufacturer (TRW) and Part No. for the pump. I’m happy to be proved wrong here but surely the control module is in the pump unit?
I’m leaning towards going ahead and replacing the pump but as it’s a significant cost compared to what I paid for the car I’m hesitant to do this until I have further proof, your thoughts would appreciated.
If I were to replace the pump I understand that there is some configuration to do in VCDS, does anyone have information on how to carry this out?
Another issue is that I have the code “16955 - Brake Switch (F) P0571 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal”, I have replaced the RH bulb and the switch on the pedal and the brake lights work but the fault is still present even after a DTC Clear, is there something else I’m missing?
I'm not too worried about the Air Con faults at the moment (unless this circuit can affect anything else), a job for another day.
Apologies for the long first post but trying to cover everything, if anything else is required or if I've done something incorrectly please let me know.
Thanks!
