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    VW Transporter 5 GP DPF Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor Fault

    Hi I have a 2010 2.0l Transporter 5 GP. Engine code CAAC. Flashing coil light on, scanned using VCDS and comes up with codes 4911 & 5257 - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor; B1 S3 - P242A 00 [036] - Malfunction. I cleared faults and ran for a while then came back. First scan shows sensor 3 (pre DPF) as 1000∞C, (which I think is open circuit). I cleared the codes, started the engine and did a live measure of values, Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3 was showing a value of 113.4 ∞C.

    Does it look like sensor 3 is faulty / on its way out? Posted below are the scan and some live data for DPF / EGT sensors etc.

    Thanks in advance for any advice / help. Also appreciate any info on how to interpret the state of the DPF soot / ash levels.

    Scan:

    Code:
    Wednesday,28,September,2016,20:54:28:30670
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 16.8.1.3
    Data version: 20160902 DS256
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    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZAH243635   License Plate: WN10EAC
    Mileage: 101090km-62814mi   Repair Order: 28-09-16(2)
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 7H (6N0)
    Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 56 69 0B
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZAH243635   Mileage: 101090km-62814miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAC)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 022 CH    HW: 03L 907 309 K
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   X32 9970  
       Revision: 26X32---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 01194012233400080000
       Shop #: WSC 92521 052 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906022CH 002013
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906022CH.rod
       VCID: 6DD19296BCE6302A75-8038
    
    2 Faults Found:
    4911 - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor; B1 S3 
              P242A 00 [036] - Malfunction
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 101075 km
                        Date: 2016.09.28
                        Time: 20:02:40
    
                        Engine speed: 1541.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 57.6 %
                        Vehicle speed: 34 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 53 ∞C
                        Intake air temperature: 28 ∞C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 14.380 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1: 280.1 ∞C
                        Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2: -0.0 ∞C
                        Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 1000.0 ∞C
                        Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 250.1 ∞C
                        Shut-off timer: last engine shut-off time: 47563 s
    
    5257 - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor; B1 S3 
              P242A 00 [036] - Malfunction
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 101075 km
                        Date: 2016.09.28
                        Time: 20:02:36
    
                        Engine speed: 1594.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 76.9 %
                        Vehicle speed: 35 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 52 ∞C
                        Intake air temperature: 28 ∞C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 14.400 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1: 314.0 ∞C
                        Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2: -0.0 ∞C
                        Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 1000.0 ∞C
                        Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 252.8 ∞C
                        Shut-off timer: last engine shut-off time: 47563 s
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 E    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
       Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0103  
       Revision: 00H43001    
       Coding: 508724AD89A80A9824A89174A96310
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 49152
       VCID: 346747F2974CA1E27A-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 7E5-907-047.clb
       Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 T    HW: 7E5 907 047 T
       Component: Climatic-T5   H10 0101  
       Revision: 00004001    
       Coding: 0000000002
       Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01002
       ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
       VCID: 408F1B22DBF40D42EE-8014
    
    1 Fault Found:
    13701936 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules 
              U1113 00 [009] - -
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 31
                        Mileage: 101073 km
                        Date: 2016.09.28
                        Time: 19:59:07
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 7H0 937 087 H    HW: 7H0 937 087 
       Component: BCM T5GP H+4  H47 0254  
       Revision: BO047001    Serial number: 0429 272120758
       Coding: B8A030382E212033002808102C2B8CD40080430F60000000320000000000
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 12345
       VCID: 397976C6B02E5C8AA9-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 C    HW: 7E0 959 801 C  Labels: 7E0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 3310 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 050000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 C    HW: 7E0 959 802 C  Labels: 7E0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 3310 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 040000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 B    HW: 3C8 959 537 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAP  H4ˇ 0021 
       Serial number: 10000000000000083963
       Coding: E20000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 A    HW: 7E0 959 655 A
       Component: VW10Airbag00Y H05 0011  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003E500160H3
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003059
       Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
       VCID: 346747F29F4CA1E27A-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 920 960 A    HW: 7E0 920 960 A
       Component: KOMBI         H16 0111  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 460800
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04041
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VN35.rod
       VCID: 275DA0BE5E9ADA7ACF-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 087 
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H47 0254  
       Revision: BO047001    
       Coding: 042300
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 12345
       VCID: 70EF8BE2A3D4DDC25E-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 920 960 A    HW: 7E0 920 960 A
       Component: IMMO          H16 0111  
       Serial number:               
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
       VCID: 275DA0BE5E9ADA7ACF-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels: 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
       Component: Anhaenger     H07 0100  
       Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00000132260014
       Coding: 0100000100000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 306F4BE263549DC21E-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:25)--------------------------


    Live data after fault codes were cleared:

    Code:
                    Address 01: Engine  (03L 906 022 CH)
    
    20:58:13
      IDE00427   Particle filter: difference pressure 5 hPa
      IDE00428   Particle filter: offset for differential press. 1 hPa
      IDE00432   Particle filter: time since last regeneration 11332 s
      IDE00433   Particle filter: oil ash volume 0.08 l
      IDE00434   Particle filter: soot mass calculated 6.58 g
      IDE00435   Particle filter: soot mass measured 1.87 g
      IDE00436   Particle filter: kilometers since last regeneration 97598 m
    
      IDE01361   Exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) cooler pump: specified value 95.00 %
      IDE01373   EGR valve: offset closed 0.65 %
      IDE01374   EGR valve: offset open -0.65 %
      IDE01405-ENG104207   Status of starter activation-Bit 0 2 
      IDE01406-ENG104207   Service regeneration: status-Bit 0 0 
      IDE01407   Particle filter: fuel consumption since last regeneration 8.50 l
      IDE01408   Charge limit for field regeneration 23.13 g
      IDE01409   Charge limit for service regeneration 40.00 g
    
      IDE02229   Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1 158.4 ∞C
      IDE02233   Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2 -0.0 ∞C
      IDE02234   Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3 113.4 ∞C
      IDE02236   Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4 100.1 ∞C
    
      IDE03270   Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1: unconditioned voltage 796.6 mV
      IDE03271   Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2: unconditioned voltage 0.0 mV
      IDE03273   Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: unconditioned voltage 732.2 mV
      IDE03275   Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: unconditioned voltage 712.8 mV
    
      IDE03353   Particle filter differential press. sensor: uncond. voltage 1042.0 mV
      IDE03383   Exhaust mass flow of EGR 0.0 kg/h
      IDE04652   Exhaust gas jet volume in particle filter 59.4 m≥/h
      IDE04653   Simulated particle filter surface temperature 117.1 ∞C
    Last edited by Uwe; 09-28-2016 at 06:34 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    From what I've experienced on the CR TDI engines, that is a bad temp sensor.

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    Are EGT's missassigned in diagnostic stack?
    Block values appear different from DTC's.
    Make sure you pull electrical connectors and for each sensor to be sure of locations.
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    Not sure which is sensor #2 as i have read that the location / block is not used on this van and it shows as -0.0 ∞C on the scan.

    However, looking at another van with the same problem on sensor #3, there is a reading for sensor #2 so a bit confused ... scan below:

    Code:
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAC) Labels: 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
    Part No S 03L 906 022 CH H 03L 907 309 K
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC X32 9970 
    Revision: 26X32--- Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 01194012233400080000
    Shop #: WSC 92521 052 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906022CH 002013
    ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906022CH.rod
    VCID: 6DD19296BCE6302A75-8038
    
    2 Faults Found:
    4911 - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor; B1 S3 
    P242A 00 [036] - Malfunction
    Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Mileage: 101075 km
    Date: 2016.09.28
    Time: 20:02:40
    
    Engine speed: 1541.00 /min
    Normed load value: 57.6 %
    Vehicle speed: 34 km/h
    Coolant temperature: 53 ∞C
    Intake air temperature: 28 ∞C
    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
    Voltage terminal 30: 14.380 V
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1: 280.1 ∞C
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2: -0.0 ∞C
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 1000.0 ∞C
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 250.1 ∞C
    Shut-off timer: last engine shut-off time: 47563 s
    
    5257 - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor; B1 S3 
    P242A 00 [036] - Malfunction
    Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Mileage: 101075 km
    Date: 2016.09.28
    Time: 20:02:36
    
    Engine speed: 1594.00 /min
    Normed load value: 76.9 %
    Vehicle speed: 35 km/h
    Coolant temperature: 52 ∞C
    Intake air temperature: 28 ∞C
    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
    Voltage terminal 30: 14.400 V
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1: 314.0 ∞C
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2: -0.0 ∞C
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 1000.0 ∞C
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 252.8 ∞C
    Shut-off timer: last engine shut-off time: 47563 s
    scan of other van:

    Code:
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAA) Labels: 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
    
    Part No S 03L 906 022 CB H 03L 907 309 K
    
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC H41 9116 
    
    Revision: 26H41--- Serial number: 00000000000000
    
    Coding: 01114010230400080000
    
    Shop #: WSC 00005 210 100502
    
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906022CB 002012
    
    ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906022CB.rod
    
    VCID: 67DDE0BE9E1A1A7A01-8032
    
    
    
    5 Faults Found:
    
    4911 - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor; B1 S3 
    
    P242A 00 [175] - Malfunction
    
    MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    Freeze Frame:
    
    Fault Status: 00000001
    
    Fault Priority: 2
    
    Fault Frequency: 1
    
    Mileage: 160957 km
    
    Date: 2016.07.30
    
    Time: 11:19:57
    
    
    
    Engine speed: 2446.00 /min
    
    Normed load value: 73.7 %
    
    Vehicle speed: 104 km/h
    
    Coolant temperature: 93 �C
    
    Intake air temperature: 38 �C
    
    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
    
    Voltage terminal 30: 14.400 V
    
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1: 602.5 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2: 473.1 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 1000.0 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 337.4 �C
    
    Shut-off timer: last engine shut-off time: 376 s
    
    
    
    13811 - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor; B1 S3 
    
    P242B 00 [237] - Range/Performance
    
    MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    Freeze Frame:
    
    Fault Status: 00000001
    
    Fault Priority: 2
    
    Fault Frequency: 1
    
    Mileage: 161557 km
    
    Date: 2000.00.00
    
    Time: 00:00:00
    
    
    
    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
    
    Normed load value: 0.0 %
    
    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
    
    Coolant temperature: 14 �C
    
    Intake air temperature: 15 �C
    
    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
    
    Voltage terminal 30: 12.480 V
    
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1: 15.8 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2: 18.0 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 1000.0 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 16.1 �C
    
    Shut-off timer: last engine shut-off time: 51825 s
    
    
    
    5568 - Sensor for Ambient Air Temperature (G17) 
    
    P0073 00 [032] - Signal too High
    
    Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    Freeze Frame:
    
    Fault Status: 00000001
    
    Fault Priority: 6
    
    Fault Frequency: 1
    
    Mileage: 160929 km
    
    Date: 2016.06.15
    
    Time: 11:24:47
    
    
    
    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
    
    Normed load value: 0.0 %
    
    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
    
    Coolant temperature: 15 �C
    
    Intake air temperature: 17 �C
    
    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
    
    Voltage terminal 30: 11.680 V
    
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 20
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1: 17.1 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2: 18.0 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 20.0 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 18.0 �C
    
    Shut-off timer: last engine shut-off time: 39962 s
    
    
    
    8623 - Sensor for Ambient Air Temperature (G17) 
    
    P0071 00 [032] - Implausible Signal
    
    Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    Freeze Frame:
    
    Fault Status: 00000001
    
    Fault Priority: 2
    
    Fault Frequency: 1
    
    Mileage: 160929 km
    
    Date: 2016.06.15
    
    Time: 11:24:45
    
    
    
    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
    
    Normed load value: 0.0 %
    
    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
    
    Coolant temperature: 15 �C
    
    Intake air temperature: 17 �C
    
    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
    
    Voltage terminal 30: 11.360 V
    
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 20
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1: 17.0 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2: 18.0 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 20.0 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 18.0 �C
    
    Shut-off timer: last engine shut-off time: 39961 s
    
    
    
    5257 - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor; B1 S3 
    
    P242A 00 [175] - Malfunction
    
    MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    Freeze Frame:
    
    Fault Status: 00000001
    
    Fault Priority: 2
    
    Fault Frequency: 1
    
    Mileage: 160957 km
    
    Date: 2016.07.30
    
    Time: 11:19:52
    
    
    
    Engine speed: 2487.00 /min
    
    Normed load value: 52.5 %
    
    Vehicle speed: 105 km/h
    
    Coolant temperature: 93 �C
    
    Intake air temperature: 39 �C
    
    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
    
    Voltage terminal 30: 14.400 V
    
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1: 812.4 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2: 562.0 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 1000.0 �C
    
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 328.5 �C
    
    Shut-off timer: last engine shut-off time: 376 s
    
    
    
    Readiness: 1 2 0 0 0
    Last edited by Uwe; 09-29-2016 at 09:18 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    different engine codes in them vans. In tdi pd engines lambda sensor is counted as egt sensor... i mean 1st egt sitting in turbo, 2nd is a lambda, 3rd in top of dpf (below lambda) and 4th in the bottom of dpf. Not all lambdas checking temperature, thats why you have 0 degrees in mvb on sensor number 2.

    5257 - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor; B1 S3
    P242A 00 [036] - Malfunction
    Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Mileage: 101075 km
    Date: 2016.09.28
    Time: 20:02:36

    Engine speed: 1594.00 /min
    Normed load value: 76.9 %
    Vehicle speed: 35 km/h
    Coolant temperature: 52 ∞C
    Intake air temperature: 28 ∞C
    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
    Voltage terminal 30: 14.400 V
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 1: 314.0 ∞C
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 2: -0.0 ∞C
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 1000.0 ∞C
    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 252.8 ∞C
    Shut-off timer: last engine shut-off time: 47563 s
    You need to replace sensor number 3, shows 1000 degrees when fault come on.

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