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    Coding question for ABS unit on 2016 Q5 3.0 (Canada - Progressiv) to enable TPMS

    Hi,

    I finally got around to enabling many tweaks found on Audizine (found many other places too) on Olaf, my Ibis White Q5.

    I followed the advice to set Byte 1 Bit 3 on my ABS controller to set "Tire Pressure Monitoring (PR-7K6)" active (1 = active). Sadly, there was no long coding helper for this controller. But interstingly, I found that the required bit was already set! Of course there were a few items in the "green engineering" menu on the MMi unit to change too:

    [Hidden menu] [car] [cardevicelist] [Tyre pressure control (RDK)] Enable
    [Hidden menu] [car] [cardevicelist_2] [RDK] Enable
    [Hidden menu] [car] [carmenuoperation] [Tyre Air Pressure Control (RDK)] Set to 5







    Here is my full scan:

    Code:
    Thursday,22,September,2016,15:30:54:59526
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 16.8.1.3 (x64)
    Data version: 20160902 DS256
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WA1C7AFP6GA??????   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: FP (8R0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 36 42 44 46 52 53 56 5F 62 69
              6C 6D 72
    
    VIN: WA1C7AFP6GA??????   Mileage: 3580km-2224miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CTUC)       Labels: 06E-907-551-CGW.clb
       Part No SW: 8R0 907 551 F    HW: 4G0 907 551 A
       Component: 3.0l V6 TFSIH07 0006  
       Revision: --H07---    
       Coding: 2A2A0034053601060000
       Shop #: WSC 57754 001 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS0218R0907551F 001006
       ROD: EV_ECM30TFS0218R0907551F.rod
       VCID: 3B7F086FB28D269ABB-806E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    23254 - Fuel Level Sensor Circuit 
              P0461 00 [101] - Implausible Signal
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 3449 km
                        Date: 2016.09.17
                        Time: 12:22:32
    
                        Engine speed: 1552.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 18.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 51 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 89 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 45 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 970 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 13.710 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine speed: actual: 1536 /min
                        MAF_ENVD: 136.17647 mg/stroke
                        Coolant temperature (unfiltered): 89.25 °C
                        FTL_CAN: 19 l
                        Engine load: 17.968750 %
                        Vehicle speed: actual: 51 km/h
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: 0BK-927-156.clb
       Part No SW: 8R0 927 158 AM    HW: 0BK 927 156 AM
       Component: 0BK 30TFSIUSA H19 1004  
       Revision: --H19---    
       Coding: 000002
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL551211 002022
       ROD: EV_TCMAL551211_AU48.rod
       VCID: 0815A7A3B3DBBD02E6-805C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 8R0 907 379 AS    HW: 8R0 907 379 AS
       Component: ESP8 quattro  H09 0020  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 199D0C03
       Shop #: WSC 57754 001 104857
       VCID: 11238AC7C881FCCA31-8044
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KP    HW: 8K0 907 064 KP
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H15 0711  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 0DA54040000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 0815A7A3BBDBBD02E6-805C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E    HW: 8K0 905 852 E
       Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046 
       Serial number: 3216000055277014    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 8K1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8K1 820 043 AQ
       Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0122  
       Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01150420161775
       Coding: 6621228080
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 77F7D45FC625C2FA9F-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DH    HW: 8K0 907 063 DH
       Component: BCM1 1.0      H16 0103  
       Revision: 08016001    Serial number: 00001338105301
       Coding: 26000096863CAFE00101488300003D0D4F9CE70826090201000008004400030100000034000000
       Shop #: WSC 57754 001 104857
       VCID: 78F5D763CB3BCD8296-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R1 955 119 A    HW: 8R1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS416 160407  H13 0050 
       Serial number: 90243014160329021347
       Coding: 01DD13
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 C    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
       Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0004 
       Serial number: 61662451            
       Coding: 02005C
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
       Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 
       Serial number: 00000000000704160337
    H03 0005 
       Serial number: 81E9032800PAG0MUFU01
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 R    HW: 8K0 959 655 R
       Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H53 0812  
       Serial number: 003NED16DHBF  
       Coding: 303635313832383132304A55304C38523053
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003114
       ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
       VCID: 4C9D5BB3E723912202-8018
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 339 A    HW: 8R0 959 339 A
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H02 0040 
       Serial number: 5810000R160000S7LQ
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6334MSME581935206
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6344MSME56792D1EV
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6352QSME00594E50E
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6362QSME7A583A54U
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 63732SME27542776$
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 63832SME3C541B5A8
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 Q    HW: 8K0 953 568 Q
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H03 0003  
       Revision: C0062331    Serial number: 90862PDE000JL 
       Coding: 000017
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 489567A3FB5B7D0226-801C
    
       Component: E221 - MFL  H03 0004 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 8R0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8R0 920 932 C    HW: 8R0 920 932 C
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H36 0567  
       Revision: 00300000    Serial number: 034219J4H     
       Coding: 8BAF220003010008020000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
       VCID: 3669195B81AFFBF244-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 T    HW: 8R0 907 468 C
       Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H11 0070  
       Revision: 1Y090032    Serial number: 3241Y164010698
       Coding: 80CF07FF00
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 50A54FC3030BB5C27E-8004
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 915 181 C    HW: 8R0 915 181 C
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H07 8043 
       Serial number: 2215999803          
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663     HW: 8K0 959 663 
       Component: J532_DCDCStab  H17 0042 
       Serial number: 16100000086011200181
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8R0 959 760 D    HW: 8R0 959 760 B
       Component: MEM-FS        H07 0077  
       Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000193865856
       Coding: 01581B00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4281758BDD675752F8-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 P
       Component: TSG FA        H03 0511  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000195789231 
       Coding: 011D13215E00440004
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4FA74CBF1E35AA3A67-801A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 8K0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 8R0 909 144 Q    HW: 8R0 909 144 L
       Component: RCevo         H54 0702  
       Revision: 00000002    Serial number: 0000821231
       Coding: 100000010001
       Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 104002
       ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X.rod
       VCID: 4689699BF94F6B72D4-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KP    HW: 8K0 907 064 KP
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H15 0711  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0401052388    
       Coding: 0126023A20FA308186B0053600040047
       Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
       VCID: 0815A7A3BBDBBD02E6-805C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 P
       Component: TSG BF        H03 0511  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000194577401 
       Coding: 011D13215E00440004
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4E9951BB193FA3326C-801A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 N    HW: 8K0 907 801 J
       Component: EPB-4         H03 0005  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 30000000495534
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
       ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_VW51.rod
       VCID: 3A710D6BBDB71F92A0-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4G0 035 082 G    HW: 4G0 035 082 
       Component: Radio U SIRIU H66 0133  
       Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 156D10G2556684
       Coding: 020007020100000001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 244DD31327337962EA-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
       Part No SW: 8R1 035 664 J    HW: 8R1 035 664 G
       Component: H-BN-NA       H43 0952  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 522D+0G7531929
       Coding: 160200060005C1EF4500AF4E00000403F40000020000000200
       Shop #: WSC 57754 001 1048576
       VCID: 3D7B0677A49928AA85-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 DG
       Component: NAR 2016  1302 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604 A    HW: 8R0 919 604 A
       Component: DU7 High  H42 0104 
       Serial number: A130DQ0G3560534     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 L    HW: 8T0 919 611 C
       Component: E0380 Bedient  H02 0030 
       Serial number: 00000002513175      
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 G
       Component: CD-Database  6890 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
       Component: TSG HL        H02 0510  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000194035160 
       Coding: 010C13204000240004
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4689699BF14F6B72D4-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels: 8K0-907-383.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 383 E    HW: 8K0 907 383 E
       Component: Anhaenger     H12 0100  
       Revision: 1A001001    Serial number: 00000371529669
       Coding: 0200000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 57754 001 1048576
       VCID: 3669195B81AFFBF244-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
       Part No SW: 8R0 907 441 A    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
       Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
       Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 525PA8-JB2A09G
       Coding: 1030010
       Shop #: WSC 57754 001 1048576
       VCID: 346D235357D3E9E27A-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 8R0 827 851 D    HW: 8R0 827 851 D
       Component: J605  Master  H56 0330  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 8R0827851D    
       VCID: 3D7B0677A49928AA85-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 827 852 D    HW: 8R0 827 852 D
       Component: J756  Slave  H56 0330 
       Serial number: 8R0827852D          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
       Component: TSG HR        H02 0510  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000194035270 
       Coding: 010C13204000240004
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4689699BF14F6B72D4-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:48)--------------------------
    During my research, I noticed that in this post, that Uwe "speculated" that the poster "dingle" should change coding from 15150803 to 151D1803 to get his TPMS working. It worked of course . This fellow 2016 Canadian Q5 owner "dingle" has the same ABS part number as me "8R0 907 379 AS" and my coding is different from his likely because of my trailer hitch install (pre-delivery by dealer).

    If you boil it down, Uwe was speculating that to enable TPMS that "dingle" should change the following bits in his coding:

    Byte 1 bit 3 (widely documented in many posts)
    Byte 2 bit 4 (??)

    My TPMS menu is appearing in MMi and I was able to set initial tyre pressures with just Byte 1 Bit 3 set. I could not find details of the Byte 2 bit 4 coding anywhere.

    Question: Does anyone have any idea of what Byte 2 bit 4 controls?


    Thanks in advance,

    /dan

    P.S. some time I will lower tire pressure to see if the monitoring and alarm works. Here is a screenshot of the new menus in MMi.



    Last edited by Uwe; 09-24-2016 at 08:38 AM. Reason: Reoved SIZE tags from scan. My glasses are not string enough to read SIZE=1 ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhaller View Post
    During my research, I noticed that in this post, that Uwe "speculated" that the poster "dingle" should change coding from 15150803 to 151D1803 to get his TPMS working. It worked of course . This fellow 2016 Canadian Q5 owner "dingle" has the same ABS part number as me "8R0 907 379 AS" and my coding is different from his likely because of my trailer hitch install (pre-delivery by dealer).

    If you boil it down, Uwe was speculating that to enable TPMS that "dingle" should change the following bits in his coding:

    Byte 1 bit 3 (widely documented in many posts)
    Byte 2 bit 4 (??)

    My TPMS menu is appearing in MMi and I was able to set initial tyre pressures with just Byte 1 Bit 3 set. I could not find details of the Byte 2 bit 4 coding anywhere.
    Huh?
    15 = 00010101
    1D = 00011101

    That's only a one bit change -- to bit 3!

    I believe bits 4 and 5 together determine some combination of ESP Basic vs. ESP High, as well as Drive Select and some other stuff like that, but the details are fuzzy. I would NOT mess with those bits!

    -Uwe-

    PS: Glad you found us here Dan! Dan is one of the folks who bought a VAG-COM from me the day I released the first version back in May of 2000.
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    Dan, TPMS is being slightly differentiated between RoW and NAR models. Hence there being three bits which can be relevant for different TPMS varieties.

    Can you please email me that VIN of yours so I can double check some of the production codes in order to provide your vehicle specific coding? Simplest way, just email the complete Auto-Scan incl. VIN to Support@Ross-Tech.com and I'll grab it there.
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    ... I saw two octets changes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Huh?
    15 = 00010101
    1D = 00011101

    That's only a one bit change -- to bit 3!

    I believe bits 4 and 5 together determine some combination of ESP Basic vs. ESP High, as well as Drive Select and some other stuff like that, but the details are fuzzy. I would NOT mess with those bits!

    -Uwe-

    PS: Glad you found us here Dan! Dan is one of the folks who bought a VAG-COM from me the day I released the first version back in May of 2000.
    The coding of "dingle" was originally 15150803 and since you "speculated" 151D1803 - I saw two octet changes, not one.

    BTW - Uwe, you have good records. I bought my first VAG-COM cable even before I had my first car to use it on (it was still on order).

    /dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhaller View Post
    The coding of "dingle" was originally 15150803 and since you "speculated" 151D1803 - I saw two octet changes, not one.
    Sorry, shoulda had more coffee before I typed that. I missed the fact that the other bit you were asking about was in Byte 02 rather than Byte 01.

    Byte 02, Bit 4 is another TPMS bit. It seems I suggested flipping them both on.

    Quote Originally Posted by drhaller View Post
    BTW - Uwe, you have good records. I bought my first VAG-COM cable even before I had my first car to use it on (it was still on order).
    Yep, our customer records are very complete all the way back to day 1 (and even a bit before).

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    Thanks for the scan incl. the VIN, the proper coding for this car with TPMS is 199D1C03. I'll make sure the upcoming update for VCDS comes with a proper coding chart for your ESP as well.
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    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastian View Post
    Thanks for the scan incl. the VIN, the proper coding for this car with TPMS is 199D1C03. I'll make sure the upcoming update for VCDS comes with a proper coding chart for your ESP as well.
    I'll flip the extra bit on during the next VCDS session with the car.

    /dan

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