2009 jetta to brake lights activate backwards

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Hello, I just bought my vcds to bleed my brakes after a master cylinder change. I went through the process until I came to a screen which said. Partial, venting stopped. My abs and esp does not work. It did before I bleed the brakes. My brakes feel fine. Here is the big question. The brake light switch is activated when I am off the brake. When I step on the brake it is inactive. Maybe I change some parameter without knowing it. Thanks, Joe
 
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Hello, I just bought my vcds to bleed my brakes after a master cylinder change. I went through the process until I came to a screen which said. Partial, venting stopped. My abs and esp does not work. It did before I bleed the brakes. My brakes feel fine. Here is the big question. The brake light switch is activated when I am off the brake. When I step on the brake it is inactive. Maybe I change some parameter without knowing it. Thanks, Joe

I hope this is what you were asking for. I have pasted the auto scan. I tried to make the first post as short as possible but will add some background. Hopefully I do not get to winded. About one year ago I changed the master cylinder. I did not know about the abs bleeding then and never had a good pedal. As time went on I forgot about it and thought it was normal. A few months ago I started to lose power or rather the accelerator. Cruise would kick off also. I found out that the brake light would stay on at times causing the engine problem. I think I am sure that the engine will not send fuel to the DSG tranny when you are on the brake. I put in a new brake light switch. Same issue. Time to get serious and by the shop manual. I did not feel the master cylinder caused the problem but I started from scratch. New master, manual and full VCDS. Brakes work fine now. No mush. There is a value for brake pressure and the lowest with no brake is .17 bar. It get higher as I step down. In my basic section it says that the brake pressure sensor is not functioning but I get readings. Sorry for not knowing all the screens I was looking at. I am typing this in my house. Before I bled the brakes the brake light would stay on but worked correctly and the abs/esp did not flash. I have registered with tech support and will call before I cry uncle and go to VW. I would rather not fail at this point. Sorry for the long post and thanks, Joe

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Friday,20,June,2014,14:53:31:25857
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140212


VIN: 3VWAL71KX9M057480   License Plate: 
Mileage: 155190km-96430mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 65 72
         

VIN: 3VWAL71KX9M057480   Mileage: 155190km/96430miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CBE)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 997 016 P    HW: 03L 906 022 J
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG  8681  
   Revision: 12H01---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H824E14E
   Coding: 0050078
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3F8D57AD6E18BDE6A2D-806A

5 Faults Found:
001393 - Brake Switch (F) 
               P0571 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 155001 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 13:01:20

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 828 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 13.68 V
                    Torque: 0.0 Nm
                    Hex Value: 0xFF00
                    Bin. Bits: 00101110

000257 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
               P0101 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 155189 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 21:14:50

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Voltage: 11.55 V
                    Load: 100.0 %
                    Load: 100.0 %
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 1100.0 mg/str
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str

001674 - ECM Power Relay Load Circuit: (J271) 
               P068A - 000 - De-Energized Performance Too Early - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 0.00 V
                    Hex Value: 0xFF00
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Temperature: -90.0°C

001025 - EGR System 
               P0401 - 000 - Insufficient Flow - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 155189 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:39:09

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1311 /min
                    Speed: 18.0 km/h
                    Voltage: 13.76 V
                    Load: 60.8 %
                    Load: 100.0 %
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 210.0 mg/str
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 345.0 mg/str

001162 - Exhaust Pressure Control Valve 1 
               P048A - 000 - Stuck Closed - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 155189 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:39:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1311 /min
                    Speed: 18.0 km/h
                    Load: 17.6 %
                    Load: 9.8 %
                    Lambda: 86.0 %
                    Temperature: 60.0°C
                    Temperature: 53.1°C

Readiness: 0 1 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
   Part No SW: 02E 300 051     HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     431 1814  
   Revision: 04843012    Serial number: 00000806300812
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: D0AFE4114386B29ECB7-8085

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AE    HW: 1K0 907 379 AE
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0104  
   Revision: 00H35001    
   Coding: 113B400D49270001880F02EC92190042B100
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 75E1F585DCA437B6B81-8020

2 Faults Found:
01487 - System Function Test 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 222
                    Mileage: 155190 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 16384
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 321
                    Count: 49958
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0

01486 - System Function Test Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 221
                    Mileage: 155190 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 16384
                    Count: 14
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 320
                    Count: 49664
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 JM    HW: 1K0 820 047 JM
   Component: Climatic PQ35   142 1212  
   Revision: 00142032    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 78FFFCB10BB64ADEA37-802D

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 D    HW: 3C8 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000001067477
   Coding: 14018E234004150007140000001400000008730B5C000120000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 326B0E99AD4A608E5D3-8067

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 290908 021  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00066  

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 M    HW: 8E0 035 593 M
   Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07 0150  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0427318
   Coding: 0000100
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 33650B9D52506986565-8066

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 221
                    Mileage: 155190 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 22:39:21


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 6A AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6M06ZZZO  
   Coding: 0013889
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6CD7D0E14FEEF67E57F-8039

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 H
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0006

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME3E3153336

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME3F45060BG

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME18186E016

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME18191A211

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME1746012F$

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME16380775+

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BS    HW: 1K0 953 549 BS
   Component: J0527           051 0101  
   Coding: 0012021
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 84071841C77E9E3E3FF-80D1

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           002 0010

5 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00885 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal 50 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 N    HW: 1K0 920 974 N
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 2418  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H824E14E
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 397939B5703C93D69C9-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 5063  
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 130808F2000123
   Coding: ED807F070013021002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 356135855C2477B6781-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K5 919 965 A    HW: 1K5 919 965 A
   Component: Kompass         005 0004  
   Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 1293324T3BYP04
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 397939B5703C93D69C9-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 N    HW: 1K0 920 974 N
   Component: IMMO            3HL 2418  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H824E14E
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 397939B5703C93D69C9-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 AC    HW: 1K0 959 793 N
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1519  
   Revision: 72009005    Serial number: 00000809388908
   Coding: 0001205
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6FEDC7ED7EF80D6672D-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     2301  
   Revision: 00H15000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 2A5B16F9859A284EE53-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 13900F880186281B0904058FB0880F0488DC00
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 84071841C77E9E3E3FF-80D1

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 AC    HW: 1K0 959 792 N
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1519  
   Revision: 72009005    Serial number: 08072303145601
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 70EFC49163C6129E6B7-8025

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 L    HW: 1K0 035 180 L
   Component: Radio DE2       016 0020  
   Revision: 00016000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7H2232853
   Coding: 0010400
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2959E9F5809C2356EC9-807C

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AH    HW: 1K0 959 795 T
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1401  
   Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000003424293
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 76E3F28901A23CAEB1B-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    RDK              0450  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 84071841C77E9E3E3FF-80D1

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AH    HW: 1K0 959 794 T
   Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1401  
   Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000003439929
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 77FDFF8D06A845A6AAD-8022

No fault code found.

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My thanks to Jack for having me post the scan and Jeff for the info. I caused my own problems with the abs. I followed the directions provided and the abs system is working. I am narrowing down my brake lamps working backwards problem. With the brake switch wire disconnected the lamps are on. I connected the wire to my old cylinder off the car and it works correctly. I took the switch off the mounted cylinder and it also works correctly on the unmounted cylinder. Tomorrow I will switch the cylinders and see what's up. There is a magnet of some sort that activates the switch inside the master cylinder. Pretty long windup for my question. Do you have to buy genuine VW master cylinders for the brake light switch to work correctly. The one I am putting back on has its own similar brake light activation issue. Once again to Jack and Jeff a big Thank You. Joe
 
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