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    Hi,

    just bought a new Audi S3 and noticed some modules not found and the Central Electronics Module shows coding of all zero's.
    I have included an autoscan if it helps for future updates.

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    Monday,05,September,2016,19:01:22:22341
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 16.8.1.1 (x64)
    Data version: 20160902 DS256
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8VXHA027841   License Plate: XXX
    Mileage: 1026km-637mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8V (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 42 44 47 52 55 5F 6C A9
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8VXHA027841   Mileage: 1026km-637miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-DJHA)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8V0 906 259 J    HW: 06K 907 425 B
       Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0002  
       Revision: --H13---    
       Coding: 0A2500122426010B2004
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0208V0906259J 001004
       ROD: N/A
       VCID: 4796E0A7FEFAB17A29-8012
    
    No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM20TFS0208V0906259J" (AU37) 
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 0GC 300 011     HW: 0DE 927 711 C
       Component: GSG DQ381     H12 0402  
       Revision: 00H12V32    
       Coding: 0014
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ381061 001
       ROD: N/A
       VCID: 5FC618C7466AD9BAF1-800A
    
    No ASAM data for: "EV_TCMDQ381061" (AU37) 
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8V0 907 379 B    HW: 8V0 907 379 B
       Component: ESC           H25 0610  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 61916000000325
       Coding: 309C938D549B1BAC89970B674192690CC92AD891D082967602410074820812
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 070001
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 438EF4B7CAC29D5AF5-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels: 8V0-820-043.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 820 043 Q    HW: 8V0 820 043 Q
       Component: AC Automat    H03 0110  
       Revision: 20001000    Serial number: 00000000973287
       Coding: 00100004000000011000000000001100
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X 008021
       ROD: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X.rod
       VCID: 4084FBBBDBD48642E8-8014
    
       Relative humidity sensor in fresh air intake duct: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658 B    HW: 4H0 907 658 B
       Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H01 0005 
       Serial number: AFE98B3800PAG0MUFU03
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 CF    HW: 5Q0 937 084 CF
       Component: BCM MQBAB M+  H34 0236  
       Serial number: 02001619001511
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 017001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_VW37.rod
       VCID: 7EF84543E1A030B2DA-802A
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V2 955 119 A    HW: 8V2 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS370 160624  043 0580 
       Serial number:         160701191112
       Coding: 0A47F7
    
       Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 C    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
       Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0004 
       Serial number: 62061195            
       Coding: 00006C
    
       Light switch: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 941 531 AR    HW: 8V0 941 531 AR
       Component: E1 - LDS MQB  H05 0032 
       Serial number: 26 05 2016  00000121
    
       Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8V0 951 177     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
       Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0316 
       Serial number: 000000000ZY161521BPS
    
       Alarm horn: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 A    HW: 5Q0 951 605 A
       Component: Sirene, DWA  005 0313 
       Serial number: 00000000000036020293
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 5QA 919 294     HW: 5QA 919 294 
       Component: PDC 8 KanalH07 0031  
       Serial number: 000308418616193
       Coding: 0530151011
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 009027
       ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_VW37.rod
       VCID: 0912269FA86E070AFF-805C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AR    HW: 5Q0 959 655 AR
       Component: AirbagVW21    003 0315  
       Serial number: 003TDR1YCFNS
       Coding: 98CCC0000C0000005C5400CA00C800000065
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002154
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
       VCID: 10240BFBCB3436C238-8044
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 807 16
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 357000000006D0A0CC1Q
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 807 16
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 358000000005D0A0CC1Q
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 407 16
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 6149 
       Serial number: 3510001B72134BB3B772
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 407 16
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 6149 
       Serial number: 3520001A9211F682242U
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 706 16
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3550002A320EDB63F08E
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Pedestrian Protection Driver: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 507 16
       Component: PedP_Sensor_D  000 6149 
       Serial number: 2280001C52134BB494A3
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Pedestrian Protection Passenger: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 507 16
       Component: PedP_Sensor_P  000 6149 
       Serial number: 2290001C52134BB495A5
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Pedestrian Protection Driver 2: 
       Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 107 16
       Component: PedPSensor_D2  001 0887 
       Serial number: I0M000000005D55DDC1L
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Pedestrian Protection Passenger 2: 
       Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 107 16
       Component: PedPSensor_P2  001 0887 
       Serial number: I0N00000000B2840CC15
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 953 521 HB    HW: 5Q0 953 549 E
       Component: Lenks. Modul  003 0140  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 17071608490418
       Coding: A418
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 020002
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 01023EBF905E4F4AA7-8054
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 920 790     HW: 8V0 920 790 
       Component: FBenRDW       H13 0045  
       Coding: 24AD00422B9026000101E8001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardFPKAU37X 001023
       ROD: EV_DashBoardFPKAU37X.rod
       VCID: 79F2565FF88E178AEF-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AM    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
       Component: GW MQB High   128 1265  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0005076813
       Coding: 030100043F085A005B0082683C0B00000001010000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020
       ROD: EV_GatewLear.rod
       VCID: 7CFC4F4BF7BC22A2F4-8028
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8W0 951 523 F    HW: 8W0 951 523 F
       Component: J453 MFL  H04 0002 
       Serial number: 20160715044443 00525
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 J    HW: 5Q0 915 181 J
       Component: J367-BDMConti  H03 1050 
       Serial number: 75410803001607111335
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels: 0CQ-907-554.clb
       Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 C    HW: 0CQ 525 130 
       Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7755  
       Serial number: HA1-00014.06.16
       Coding: 0001
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002015
       ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_VW48.rod
       VCID: 458AEAAFC4F6A36ADB-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0041  
       Serial number: 290616EFS14572
       Coding: 005D0A205C01040100001002
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 438EF4B7CAC29D5AF5-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 K    HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  506 5072  
       Coding: 8107
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3A708953BD08DC92A6-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 81A 035 466     HW: 81A 035 466 
       Component: MIB2_amp_P_A3 H10 0100  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number: AUZ8ZAGHX0052B/
       Coding: 0173030000AAAA2AAA0000010000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AMPMst16C9Gen2ALPI 001002
       ROD: N/A
       VCID: 62C011337518F452DE-8036
    
    No ASAM data for: "EV_AMPMst16C9Gen2ALPI" (AU37) 
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0041  
       Serial number: 030716EG224935
       Coding: 005D02205E01040100001002
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 4280F1B3D5D89452FE-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8V0 907 357 A    HW: 7P6 907 357 B
       Component: MxB-ECU       001 0230  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 0EEE00102B230200
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulAUDIMXBAU64X 005014
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulAUDIMXBAU64X_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3E788543A120F0B29A-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8V1 035 035     HW: 8V1 035 035 
       Component: MU-P-LND-EU   052 0679  
       Serial number: A698G0G7505250
       Coding: 017350010000000011111102000A00332F0027E701700100DE
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS 001115
       ROD: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS_AU37.rod
       VCID: 6FE66807B6CA493A41-803A
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: V03 959 801 FB    HW: -----------
       Component: ECE 2016/2017  --- 0153 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
       Display unit 1 for multimedia system: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 604 C    HW: 8V0 919 604 C
       Component: DU High  H49 0014 
       Serial number: AUZ8Z9GY206FPA      
    
       Multimedia Operating Unit: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 614 BJ    HW: 8V0 919 614 BJ
       Component: ControlUnit_H  H85 0855 
       Serial number: ALJAL106051600010130
    
       Compact Disc Database: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
       Component: Gracenote2---  --- 1013 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J772)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 5Q0 980 556 A    HW: 5Q0 980 556 
       Component: RVC Compact   H08 0172  
       Coding: 0273000102002001000040
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB 005007
       ROD: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB.rod
       VCID: 3874935B8304CE8250-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 907 159 A    HW: 4H0 907 159 A
       Component: SAS-GEN 2     H07 0001  
       Serial number: 160627200025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
       ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
       VCID: 3E788543A120F0B29A-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:57)--------------------------
    Last edited by mikemod; 09-05-2016 at 02:17 PM.

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    Curious: Maybe a new car requires Hex NET interface?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemod View Post
    just bought a new Audi S3 and noticed some modules not found and the Central Electronics Module shows coding of all zero's.
    I have included an autoscan if it helps for future updates.
    I don't see any modules VCDS didn't find.

    I do see a couple of modules for which VCDS didn't find any data. That's not a huge surprise in a brand-new 2017 model car.

    We might be asking you for a debug file to see what's up with the 09 Coding (i.e. why it shows all zeros). What happens if you go to the coding screen in 09? Is it all zeros there too? Note: I suggest not messing with that coding at the moment.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boki Ar View Post
    Curious: Maybe a new car requires Hex NET interface?
    I don't see anything indicative of that.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Yea, sorry mistake in wording, I meant ASAM data not found, which as you say is not surprising.

    When I go onto the coding screen it is all 0's as well, if you need any further info, no problem.

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    Yeah, can you make us a debug 1024 of accessing 09 please? Options->Debug Level: 1024, Save, connect to and quit 09, close VCDS, send DEBUG-09.DLM in the Debugs folder to support@ross-tech.com . Thank you!
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    No problem, just emailed it to you.

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    Got it. It just wanted to make sure this wasn't an uninitialized buffer somewhere in VCDS, but as it turns out, your 09 is truly sending zeroes for its coding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Got it. It just wanted to make sure this wasn't an uninitialized buffer somewhere in VCDS, but as it turns out, your 09 is truly sending zeroes for its coding.
    Case of "byte 18", where coding is hidden?

    Or maybe the coding is carried out via parameterisation? - Like with new camera module 7N0 907 441 B, it seems it is not possible to code module. Rather only upload data via "other methods".
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    Case of "byte 18", where coding is hidden?

    Or maybe the coding is carried out via parameterisation? - Like with new camera module 7N0 907 441 B, it seems it is not possible to code module. Rather only upload data via "other methods".
    I'm not sure we can do anything except guess, at least until we get our hands on a car with a module that behaves like this.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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