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    VW CRAFTER (2E) 2.5 DPF ISSUES P2463

    New to the forums, working on a vw crafter 2.5 diesel. vehicle came in with a blocked dpf and no throttle response well next to nothing if you hold the throttle wide open it will take like half a minute to rise to 2500 rpm ,after replacing the dpf and running the engine still had a dpf fault and light on. after a phone call to ross tech support they were brilliant gave us the security code to access channel 15 to reset the oil ash volume and channel 16 which is carbon mass reset. resetting these turned the dpf light off and the glow plug stopped flashing and allowed us to clear the code that is in the auto scan provided below. after running the engine the measuring blocks MVB108 started to rise and the dpf light came back and the code returned. any help would be greatly appreciated and any other things you need to help with this just ask

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    Friday,29,July,2016,15:59:24:44324
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20141022
    
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2EZB6003250   License Plate: CRAFTER
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 2E (2E - VW Crafter (LT3 / 2006 >))
    Scan: 01 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 9A 9B 9C 9D 9E 9F A0 A1 A2 A3
              B0 B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6 C1
     
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2EZB6003250   
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CEC)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 076 906 022 P    HW: 076 906 022 G
       Component: R5 2,5L EDC A020SG  9022  
       Revision: 24H34---    Serial number: VWXDZ0J1014828
       Coding: 0003072
       Shop #: WSC 00001 067 57207
       VCID: 20486A65F06EC7214FB-512E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    009315 - Diesel Particle Filter 
                   P2463 - 000 - Excessive Soot Accumulation
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 735 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Pressure: 10 mbar
                        Hex Value: 0xFF00
                        Temperature: 132.0įC
                        (no units): 10.2
                        Mileage: 20 km
    
    Readiness: 0 2 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 91: LT3 Engine        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 076 906 022 P    HW: 076 906 022 G
       Component: R5 2,5L EDC A020SG  9022  
       Revision: 24H34---    Serial number: VWXDZ0J1014828
       Coding: 0003072
       Shop #: WSC 00001 067 57207
       VCID: 20486A65F36EC7214FB-8075
    
    1 Fault Found:
    009315 - Diesel Particle Filter 
                   P2463 - 000 - Excessive Soot Accumulation
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 735 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Pressure: 10 mbar
                        Hex Value: 0xFF00
                        Temperature: 132.0įC
                        (no units): 10.2
                        Mileage: 20 km
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 93: LT3 Immo        Labels: 2E0-905-865-93.clb
       Part No SW: 2E0 905 865 AD    HW: 906 545 580 8
       Component: IMMO          0805  0815  
       Revision: 00805000    Serial number: VWXDZ0J1014828
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 6DD64351743CDA49B4D-8038
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
                014 - Defective - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 94: LT3 Airbag        Labels: None
       Part No HW: 9064461442
       Shop #: WSC 00117 555 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 3 3332
       ROD: CRFT_AB_3_3332.rod (*)
       VCID: 55A60BB134AC72896CD-8000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 95: LT3 ESP        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 9069022800    HW: 0004460153
       Shop #: WSC 00117 555 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 3 4101
       ROD: CRFT_ESP_3_4101.rod (*)
       VCID: 040006F58FB63B014B3-8051
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 96: LT3 Instruments        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 9069026400    HW: 9069012000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 32 787
       ROD: CRFT_KOMBI_32_787.rod (*)
       VCID: 040006F58FB63B014B3-8051
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 99: LT3 Ign. Switch        Labels: None
       Part No HW: 9065455808
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 67 257
       ROD: CRFT_EZS_67_257.rod (*)
       VCID: 55A60BB134AC72896CD-8000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 9A: LT3 Central Locks        Labels: 2E0-905-865-9A.clb
       Part No SW: 2E0 905 865 AD    HW: 906 545 580 8
       Component: HF-FFB        0805  0815  
       Revision: 00805000    Serial number: 12345678901234
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 6DD64351743CDA49B4D-8038
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00172 - Key 2 not learned 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 9B: LT3 Driver Door        Labels: None
       Part No HW: 9068204126
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 33 773
       ROD: CRFT_FTUHR_33_773.rod (*)
       VCID: 55A60BB134AC72896CD-8000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 9C: LT3 HVAC        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 2514450200    HW: 9068301085
       ASAM Dataset: 21 2
       ROD: CRFT_KLIMA_21_2.rod (*)
       VCID: 77FA6139CE6060995E1-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address B1: LT3 Upper Console        Labels: None
       Part No HW: 9065454107
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 67 3
       ROD: CRFT1_OBF_67_3.rod (*)
       VCID: 55A60BB134AC72896CD-8000
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9036 - Supply voltage: Limit value exceeded 
                Test Complete - Stored
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address B4: LT3 Central Elec.        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 9064420700    HW: 9065453801
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 33 772
       ROD: CRFT_EZE_33_772.rod (*)
       VCID: 55A60BB134AC72896CD-8000
    
    3 Faults Found:
    90C2 - Emergency light activated; for rotary light switch evaluation: voltage not correct 
                Test Complete - Stored
    900A - Bulb for right low beam headlamp (M31): Short to Plus 
                Test Complete - Active/Stored
    909F - Brake Pad Wear Sensor (G34): Open circuit 
                Test Complete - Stored
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address B6: LT3 Steering Wheel        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 9065402345    HW: 9065402345
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 72 257
       ROD: CRFT_SML_72_257.rod (*)
       VCID: 06041CFDB98A0911557-8053
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:59)--------------------------

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    After trying to force a regen with the vcds i failed so back to th drawing board we tried with the verus again and still failed to regen.
    Done some research about dpf systems and finding our how to pcm calculates soot in the dpf i found that it doesnt just use the differential pressure sensor it also uses exhaust tempreture probes obviously if the before is hotter then the after there is a restriction it uses the llambda to control post injection quantities i assume and also the MAF sensor

    So when looking at my live data using the verus i had a data parameter for desired air mass and actual air mads both reading in mg per second, the desired was at 450 mg/s and the actual at 110mg/s obviously this was brought to my attention so graphed these two and raised my rpm even though it would hardly rev , my actual dropped gradually to 20 mg / s, obviously this was a problem so i unplugged the MAF while it was running and still reading the parameters , by doing this the pcm was forced to substitute a value obvioisly this value isnt going to be correct it was actually 300mg/s at idle and stayed around 200 below the desired as i raised the rpm. As soon as i reved the engine with the MAF disconnected it was noticeably better and after re adapting the carbon mass and oil ash volume and re running the engine both did not raise and the p2463 code did not return, obviously i set a MAF code and she is now in limp mode as MAF is a critical sensor but this proved it was the issue and the unplug it test is awfully handy on vehiclrs that allow them to substitute a value.

    After replacing the MAF and clearing all codes it allowed us to do a force regen and full power was returned to the vehicle

    Hope this helps people

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    What was the security access code?

    Thanks for a great write up.

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    Also my new HEX-NET is apparently NOT compatible, yet the old one is. Grrrrrrrr !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1KLEMtech View Post
    Also my new HEX-NET is apparently NOT compatible, yet the old one is. Grrrrrrrr !!!!
    It might help if you use the latest version of VCDS 17.1.3 or even the beta 17.6.0 instead a really old version...
    VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0 (x64)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1KLEMtech View Post
    Also my new HEX-NET is apparently NOT compatible, yet the old one is. Grrrrrrrr !!!!
    The HEX-NET works with LT3 Crafter as of VCDS version 17.5.1 (and HEX-NET CodeBlock v0.4341 or higher).

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    Iíve recently replaced the DPF on my neighbourís 2010 Crafter, fitted with the 5-cylinder, 2.5 litre common-rail engine. Iím trying to reset the learned values of the particle filter, but it seems the Crafter/LT3 requires a different method than other VW Group cars, which is usefully detailed on the Ross-Tech website http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...Replacement.29.

    When you access the Engine control module on the Crafter, the [Adaption - 10] option isnít available only the Long Adaption option.

    After reading the first post on this thread, Iím guessing that I need to reset the values on channels 15 and 16 through the Long Adaption option? Are the security codes to do this listed anywhere on the site?

    VCDS is a fantastic product Iíve been using for many years, recently Iíve upgraded to a HEX-NET cable which allows me to access the LT3 tab on the Select Control Module screen. My old HEX-USB cable doesnít bring this option up. https://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/LT3.php

    Many thanks,
    Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeZA View Post
    I’ve recently replaced the DPF on my neighbour’s 2010 Crafter, fitted with the 5-cylinder, 2.5 litre common-rail engine. I’m trying to reset the learned values of the particle filter, but it seems the Crafter/LT3 requires a different method than other VW Group cars, which is usefully detailed on the Ross-Tech website http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...Replacement.29.

    When you access the Engine control module on the Crafter, the [Adaption - 10] option isn’t available only the Long Adaption option.

    After reading the first post on this thread, I’m guessing that I need to reset the values on channels 15 and 16 through the Long Adaption option? Are the security codes to do this listed anywhere on the site?
    Hi and welcome. Please post an Auto-Scan so people can see exactly what ECU this van has.

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    Thanks for the welcome. Here is a copy of the Auto-Scan from my neighbour's Crafter Chassis Cab, VW Type 2F.

    Code:
    Friday,04,October,2019,17:53:32:55732
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2FZB7002966   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 2F (2F - VW Crafter Chassis Cab (LT3 / 2006 > 2016))
    Scan: 01 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 9A 9B 9C 9D 9E 9F A0 A1 A2 A3
              B0 B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6 C1
     
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2FZB7002966   
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 91: LT3 Engine        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 076 906 022 Q    HW: 076 906 022 G
       Component: R5 2,5L EDC A020SG  7729  
       Revision: 24H37---    Serial number: VWXDZ0J1027397
       Coding: 0003032
       Shop #: WSC 00873 210 175166
       VCID: 210A02D4F8105E4788-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 93: LT3 Immo        Labels: 2E0-905-865-93.clb
       Part No SW: 2E0 905 865 AD    HW: 906 545 580 8
       Component: IMMO          0805  0815  
       Revision: 00805000    Serial number: VWXDZ0J1027397
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 6D922EE474484A277C-8038
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
                014 - Defective - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 94: LT3 Airbag 
       Part No HW: 9069005701
       Shop #: WSC 00000 288 13843
       ASAM Dataset: 3 3332
       ROD: CRFT_AB_3_3331.rod (*)
       VCID: 55E2660434D8E2E7A4-8000
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9003 - Supply voltage: Lower limit not reached 
                Test Complete - Stored
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 95: LT3 ESP 
       Part No SW: 9069022800    HW: 0004460153
       Shop #: WSC 00118 555 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 3 4101
       ROD: CRFT_ESP_3_36946.rod (*)
       VCID: 04446B408FC2AB6F83-8050
    
    1 Fault Found:
    44A8 - Rear Left ABS wheel speed sensor (G46): air gap too large 
                MIL ON - Test Complete - Stored
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 96: LT3 Instruments 
       Part No SW: 9069026400    HW: 9069012000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 32 787
       ROD: CRFT_KOMBI_32_787.rod
       VCID: 04446B408FC2AB6F83-8050
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 99: LT3 Ign. Switch 
       Part No HW: 9065455808
       Shop #: WSC 00000 288 13843
       ASAM Dataset: 67 257
       ROD: CRFT_EZS_67_257.rod (*)
       VCID: 55E2660434D8E2E7A4-8000
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9001 - Voltage: Lower limit not reached 
                Test Complete - Stored
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 9A: LT3 Central Locks        Labels: 2E0-905-865-9A.clb
       Part No SW: 2E0 905 865 AD    HW: 906 545 580 8
       Component: HF-FFB        0805  0815  
       Revision: 00805000    Serial number: 12345678901234
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 6D922EE474484A277C-8038
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 9B: LT3 Driver Door 
       Part No HW: 9068204126
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 33 773
       ROD: CRFT_FTUHR_33_773.rod (*)
       VCID: 55E2660434D8E2E7A4-8000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address B0: LT3 Roof Display 
       Part No SW: 9069021000    HW: 9069010900
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 21 3
       ROD: CRFT_DBE_21_3.rod (*)
       VCID: 7BB610BCF23CD497F2-802E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    909B - Alarm Horn (H12): No communication 
                Test Complete - Active/Stored
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address B3: LT3 Trailer Module 
       Part No HW: 1695455632
       ASAM Dataset: 21 4
       ROD: CRFT_TRL_21_4.rod (*)
       VCID: 55E2660434D8E2E7A4-8000
    
    2 Faults Found:
    9009 - Terminal 30; voltage: Upper limit exceeded 
                Test Complete - Stored
    9010 - Terminal 30; voltage: Lower limit not reached 
                Test Complete - Stored
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address B4: LT3 Central Elec. 
       Part No SW: 9069027500    HW: 9069011300
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 33 292
       ROD: CRFT_EZE_33_292.rod (*)
       VCID: 06407148B9FE997F9D-8052
    
    3 Faults Found:
    909F - Brake Pad Wear Sensor (G34): Open circuit 
                Test Complete - Stored
    90A1 - Engine Coolant Level (ECL) Sensor (G32): Short to Plus 
                Test Complete - Stored
    90C2 - Emergency light activated; for rotary light switch evaluation: voltage not correct 
                Test Complete - Stored
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address B6: LT3 Steering Wheel 
       Part No SW: 9065402345    HW: 9065402345
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: 72 257
       ROD: CRFT_SML_72_257.rod (*)
       VCID: 06407148B9FE997F9D-8052
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9346 - CAN databus diagnostic: No communication with instrument cluster 
                Test Complete - Stored
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:18, VBatt start/end: 12.5V/12.6V)-----------

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    If you've installed a new DPF, you should go to Adaptation Channel 016 and store the New Value 1 there. The stored value will return to 0 after this is done.

    I think the Security Access code needed for this is: 17575

    I do not think you need to do anything in Channel 015. That's for replacing the ECU and telling the new ECU how much ash an existing DPF has in it.

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