Hello Everyone,
I posted this problem on another popular Audi forum too and I am hoping some friendly folk will throw useful ideas to remedy my problem.
Please forgive me if I am making any errors in this post. My online search was so extensive that you could say I own the internets hehehe. I would greatly appreciate if anyone would help me find a solution to my problem.
Long story short, I replaced the headunit module with the one pulled out from 2007 model and now my indirect TPMS doesn't work from MMI menu.
See full explanation below;
I have 2009 audi a6 3.0T. It is one of the very last A6's with 2G MMI high and one of the very first with indirect TPMS (7k6). My car is bare stock with camera added.
Everything was working fine until I decided to retrofit back-up camera with 6C module. To do that I had to change the head unit (7) with the one that supports video. I must note that I bought used and working one
from 2007 A6 which had direct TPMS fitted. Then I had the component protection removed by the dealer and everything works fine except TPMS. I have this option in "Car" setting, but when I try to turn it on, it turns off after two seconds. It seems as if it was adapted for direct TPMS (7k3,7k4 or 7k5) as it has grayed out option to
show individual tire pressures. I believe the cars' TPMS works fine, because when I tempered with the abs module, I got ESP, ABS and TPMS lights on my dash. I was ready to pop my old head unit back in to copy all the adaptation values (currents' unit coding is the same and my channel 1 has TPMS on), but I fear it will be a wasted time and might trigger CP again. On top of this VCDS only allows for few channels to be changed in that module and it doesn't seem any of these are related except channel 01 which allows to turn on 7k3,7k4 and 7k5 system, but not 7k6.
VCDS in general doesnt support most of my modules.
Please let me know if you know of any solution to this or maybe advise me at least which direction should I take.
Should I get "7" module that was produced in 09 for my model or maybe dealer could code my head unit? Now new unit has the same HW(except "A" at he end for FBAS) and SW numbers as my original. All the numbers physically on the unit are identical to original unit except the serial and SW. Software on all modules is up to date too.
I want to keep the dealer out of this at least for now since their most common answer is to change the whole thing and charge 50% of the value of the car.
Let me know if additional details are needed. I could post pictures of tags on old and new "7" modules.
I tried;
- went through all available coding and long coding. ABS has no long coding and in coding only option available was "hitch added". 19 had also three bytes with litteraly 2 options. One byte had - "my 09> and my 09<". another was something about "standard". 4c had nothing.
- resetting relevant modules (3, 7, 19, 4c) by recoding them with the same value. Did this multiple times in different orders.
- did basic testing on ABS ch1. This couldnt be accomplished as the test never came back with "ok", but with error as if you were trying to access the channel without inputting security code. This followed with faults and warnings which disappeared after clearing the fault list.
- even disconnecting the battery for about 30min. This threw esp,abs and tpms warnings on the dash upon reconnect, which disappeared above 5mph.
-the only thing i didnt do was driving for more than 1hr, but i cant image this will make the menu in "car" appear properly.
Thanks in advance and I greatly appreciate any help!!!
VCDS scan;
I posted this problem on another popular Audi forum too and I am hoping some friendly folk will throw useful ideas to remedy my problem.
Please forgive me if I am making any errors in this post. My online search was so extensive that you could say I own the internets hehehe. I would greatly appreciate if anyone would help me find a solution to my problem.
Long story short, I replaced the headunit module with the one pulled out from 2007 model and now my indirect TPMS doesn't work from MMI menu.
See full explanation below;
I have 2009 audi a6 3.0T. It is one of the very last A6's with 2G MMI high and one of the very first with indirect TPMS (7k6). My car is bare stock with camera added.
Everything was working fine until I decided to retrofit back-up camera with 6C module. To do that I had to change the head unit (7) with the one that supports video. I must note that I bought used and working one
from 2007 A6 which had direct TPMS fitted. Then I had the component protection removed by the dealer and everything works fine except TPMS. I have this option in "Car" setting, but when I try to turn it on, it turns off after two seconds. It seems as if it was adapted for direct TPMS (7k3,7k4 or 7k5) as it has grayed out option to
show individual tire pressures. I believe the cars' TPMS works fine, because when I tempered with the abs module, I got ESP, ABS and TPMS lights on my dash. I was ready to pop my old head unit back in to copy all the adaptation values (currents' unit coding is the same and my channel 1 has TPMS on), but I fear it will be a wasted time and might trigger CP again. On top of this VCDS only allows for few channels to be changed in that module and it doesn't seem any of these are related except channel 01 which allows to turn on 7k3,7k4 and 7k5 system, but not 7k6.
VCDS in general doesnt support most of my modules.
Please let me know if you know of any solution to this or maybe advise me at least which direction should I take.
Should I get "7" module that was produced in 09 for my model or maybe dealer could code my head unit? Now new unit has the same HW(except "A" at he end for FBAS) and SW numbers as my original. All the numbers physically on the unit are identical to original unit except the serial and SW. Software on all modules is up to date too.
I want to keep the dealer out of this at least for now since their most common answer is to change the whole thing and charge 50% of the value of the car.
Let me know if additional details are needed. I could post pictures of tags on old and new "7" modules.
I tried;
- went through all available coding and long coding. ABS has no long coding and in coding only option available was "hitch added". 19 had also three bytes with litteraly 2 options. One byte had - "my 09> and my 09<". another was something about "standard". 4c had nothing.
- resetting relevant modules (3, 7, 19, 4c) by recoding them with the same value. Did this multiple times in different orders.
- did basic testing on ABS ch1. This couldnt be accomplished as the test never came back with "ok", but with error as if you were trying to access the channel without inputting security code. This followed with faults and warnings which disappeared after clearing the fault list.
- even disconnecting the battery for about 30min. This threw esp,abs and tpms warnings on the dash upon reconnect, which disappeared above 5mph.
-the only thing i didnt do was driving for more than 1hr, but i cant image this will make the menu in "car" appear properly.
Thanks in advance and I greatly appreciate any help!!!
VCDS scan;
Code:
Saturday,16,July,2016,14:15:25:60763
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 15.7.4.1
Data version: 20160216
Ross-Tech: Home
VIN: WAUSG74F39N017562 License Plate:
Mileage: 105790km-65734mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 4F (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 0F 15 16 17 19 1E 36 37 42 46 47 4C
4F 52 53 55 56 62 6C 72 77
VIN: WAUSG74F39N017562 Mileage: 105790km-65734miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Not registered 0001
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Not registered 0011
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CCA) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4F1 910 551 A HW: 4F1 907 551
Component: 3.0l V6 TFSI 0030
Coding: 0105000A190F0120
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 21498CFAF824B13651-8074
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 551 A
Component: 3.0l V6 TFSI 0030
No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
Part No SW: 4F1 910 156 K HW: 09L 927 156 C
Component: AG6 09L 3,0TFSI USA 0040
Revision: --H04--- Serial number: 4492244
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2C576DCE8FE66C5EF2-8078
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AL HW: 4F0 614 517 BA
Component: ESP8 quattro H01 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0020921
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 6ED3A7C6797A5E4E9C-803A
No fault code found.
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B HW: 4F0 905 852 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H05 0100
Revision: 00H05000 Serial number: 10602601222254
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
VCID: 254198EAEC0C5D162D-8070
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 J
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H03 0020
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 A
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H01 0040
No fault code found.
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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 732 R HW: 4E0 035 729 A
Component: Interfacebox H43 4610
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 361IR067505481
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 326B73B6ADC23AAEB8-8066
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 E
Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H01 0060
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000001198453
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0113.10.080000000100010993
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010993
2 Faults Found:
01327 - Control Module for Parking Aid (J446)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 155
Mileage: 105788 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.07.16
Time: 13:49:46
01325 - Control Module for Tire Pressure Monitoring (J502)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 155
Mileage: 105788 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.07.16
Time: 13:51:23
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 A HW: 4F1 820 043 AG
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0020
Revision: 00000054 Serial number: 00000000580709
Coding: 0524326
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 1C37BD0EDF469CDE82-8048
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 N HW: 4F0 907 279
Component: ILM Fahrer H22 0320
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0013123
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 346775AE57D6349EAA-8060
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113 D Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer AudiC6 H10 0040
Coding: 00054547
Shop #: WSC 02335
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 910 557 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0003
Coding: 00146221
Shop #: WSC 02335
No fault code found.
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Address 0E: Media Player 1 (R199) Labels: 4E0-035-785.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 035 785 F HW: 4E0 035 785 C
Component: SG ext.Player H15 0850
Revision: 00000000
Coding: 010000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B556ED24AE86B66FB-807E
No fault code found.
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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 4E0-910-593-SIR.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 593 M HW: 4E0 035 593 F
Component: SDAR SIRIUS H07 0160
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0434995
Coding: 0000100
Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
VCID: 31697CBAA8C401B6C1-8064
1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 155
Mileage: 105778 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.07.16
Time: 12:34:14
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 M HW: 4F0 959 655 F
Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0090
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003000000000
Coding: 303142373034303030314A55304C34463053
Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
VCID: 31697CBA60C401B6C1-8064
Seat occupied recognition:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 339 B HW: 4F0 959 339 B
Component: BF-Gewichtss. H03 0060
Serial number: 5810000R0000002UB5
Coding: 000000
Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:
Serial number: 3574SRB4000082588933
Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side:
Serial number: 3584SRB40000822878FB
Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side:
Serial number: 35152RB40317EMTAUKF.
Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side:
Serial number: 35252RB40317EMTB4RJO
Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side:
Serial number: 3554NRB4000047BA7B36
Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side:
Serial number: 3564NRB4000047B9DFER
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A HW: 4F0 953 549 D
Component: J0527 0410
Revision: 00H03000 Serial number: 90055082720042
Coding: 0002041
Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
VCID: 275D92E296004F061F-8072
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 H02 0030
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 4F0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 920 951 D HW: 4F0 920 951 D
Component: KOMBIINSTR. H06 0133
Revision: 00200000 Serial number: 9IW28CGA8
Coding: 8B9F0A050300CF05020201
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 285F91DE5B1E407E16-807C
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 4F0-907-468.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 F HW: 4F0 907 468 F
Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0024
Revision: 4LA70021 Serial number: 2100L08A12862E
Coding: 000303
Shop #: WSC 54964 001 1048576
VCID: 326B73B66DC23AAEB8-8066
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 C HW: 8K0 915 181 C
Component: J367-BDM H07 0100
1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 155
Mileage: 105788 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.07.16
Time: 13:50:38
Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 01111
Voltage: 12.50 V
Count: 7
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Address 1E: Media Player 2 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 110 E HW: 4E0 035 110 A
Component: MP3-Changer H47 0390
Revision: 00047003 Serial number: AUZ5ZBH8627785
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1A3BBB16D572E2EE90-804E
No fault code found.
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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4F0 959 760 C HW: 4F0 959 760 C
Component: MEM-FS H08 0062
Revision: AA000000 Serial number: 00001001165584
Coding: 00581300004011110000
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 31697CBA68C401B6C1-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 M HW: 4E0 919 887 M
Component: MNS US H52 1100
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 341LU087522563
Shop #: WSC 40832 444 85571
VCID: 387F419E4BBED0FE86-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 4F0-959-793.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 959 793 R HW: 8K0 959 793 D
Component: TSG FA H11 0250
Revision: Serial number: 0000100381955
Coding: 011F07204E40410001
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 46833F66F14AB60E04-8012
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4F0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 N HW: 4F0 907 289 N
Component: Komfortgeraet H28 0240
Revision: 02400028 Serial number: 01153730470000
Coding: 4618397
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 356148AA5CAC2D969D-8060
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
No fault code found.
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Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 223 M HW: 4F0 035 223 N
Component: Amp.-ASK-RD H07 0270
Revision: S1400000
Coding: 060000
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 285F91DE5B1E407E16-807C
No fault code found.
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Address 4C: Tire Pressure II Labels: 4F0-910-274.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 274 A HW: 4F0 907 274
Component: J793 RKA+ H02 0100
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00008390030854
Coding: 0623301
Shop #: WSC 00477 128 36094
VCID: 224B83F6FD22AA2E48-8076
No fault code found.
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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 C
Component: ILM Beifahrer H12 0100
Revision: Serial number: 00000000248535
Coding: 0002014
Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
VCID: 5EB3F70689DACECE2C-800A
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 4F0-959-792.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 959 792 R HW: 8K0 959 792 D
Component: TSG BF H11 0250
Revision: Serial number: 0000100406857
Coding: 011F07204E40410001
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 4581386ACC4CBD160D-8010
No fault code found.
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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 D HW: 4F0 907 801 B
Component: EPB CEFC0090 H05 0090
Revision: --H05---
Coding: 0000222
Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
VCID: 21498CFAF824B13651-8074
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
Part No: 8P0 907 357 H
Component: Dynamische LWR H02 0010
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 3F8D2A826E90E7C647-806A
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T HW: 4F0 035 541 N
Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 379J5087539942
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
VCID: 31697CBAA8C401B6C1-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388) Labels: 4F0-959-795.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M HW: 8K0 959 795 B
Component: TSG HL H10 0251
Revision: Serial number: 0000100376879
Coding: 010E07204040220001
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 43852672C278832623-8016
No fault code found.
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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 441 HW: 4L0 907 441 A
Component: J772__Rearview 0050
Revision: --H12--- Serial number: 525PA8-J752087
Coding: 1000404
Shop #: WSC 54964 001 104857
VCID: 5DB1F00A84DCD5D635-8008
1 Fault Found:
03006 - Back-up Camera System not calibrated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 155
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
Invalid
Invalid
Invalid
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389) Labels: 4F0-959-795.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M HW: 8K0 959 795 B
Component: TSG HR H10 0251
Revision: Serial number: 0000100376198
Coding: 010E07204040220001
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 43852672C278832623-8016
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 336 H HW: 4E0 862 335
Component: Handyvorb2 H20 1130
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005065854
Coding: 0010970
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 285F91DE9B1E407E16-807C
No fault code found.
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