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I haven't observed an active regen in 15K miles which I assumed was a result of my driving style (long high speed trips across the desert). So Dr Peter explained here to observe 001 & 011 08 68, blocks 1 (ash) and 3(soot). Ash readings are progressing gradually as expected, now up to 42 grams in both 001 and011. The soot readings. last seen at 7 and 9% six months ago, seem to have bottomed out at 0% in both addresses, not sure how long ago as I haven't logged for 8K miles. Yesterday I logged on a long uphill 4wd road never exceeding 1500 rpm...still no change. No faults in either ECU. Is soot calculated from G450 and 451 only? But why no faults?

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VIN: WVGPT77L46D062013   License Plate: 
Mileage: 178250km-110759mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 7L (LG1 - My VW Touareg)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 11 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 29 34 36 37 39
          46 47 56 68 69 6C 6E 76
 
VIN: WVGPT77L46D062013   Mileage: 178250km-110759miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 070 906 016 CQ    HW: 028 101 196 2
   Component: V10 5,0L EDCG000AGMª8472  
   Revision: --H02---    Serial number: VWZ3Z0F6455356
   Coding: 0060575
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 61C2339FBBCE2B3611-5120

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09D-927-750.lbl
   Part No SW: 09D 927 750 DP    HW: 09D 927 750 DP
   Component: AL 750 6A           0856  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0004200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 7F0695E72D7AFDC607-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25.lbl
   Part No: 7L0 907 379 G
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25     0203  
   Coding: 0022786
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 3D7AAFEF67F62FD655-5102

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7L0 909 137 A    HW: 5WK 485 02
   Component: 29 Kessy            6700  
   Revision: 67005915    Serial number: VWZ3Z0F6455356
   Coding: 0147688
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 316283DFABAEDBB6C1-5120

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: ELV                 XXXX

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L0 959 760 
   Component: Sitzverstellung     0701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 77F67DC7054AC5864F-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 7L6-907-044.clb
   Part No: 7L6 907 044 T
   Component: CLIMAtronic 2+2     4222  
   Coding: 0020030
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 458AC70F0F2667160D-5120

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 907 049 E
   Component: CLIMAtronic FOND    0400

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 7Lx-937-049-V1.clb
   Part No: 7L6 937 049 N
   Component:                     3002  
   Coding: 0111836
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 4796CD07352A7506FF-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 11: Engine II        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 070 906 016 CQ    HW: 028 101 196 2
   Component: V10 5,0L EDCG000AGSª8472  
   Revision: --H02---    Serial number: VWZ3Z0F6455356
   Coding: 0060575
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 61C2339FBBCE2B3611-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 601 H
   Component: 05 Airbag 8.4E++H01 0562  
   Revision: BB38727     Serial number: 0007379>      
   Coding: 0012341
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 28546EBB98749A7E16-5120

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 339 C
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0008

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 953 549 H
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul     3401  
   Coding: 0010032
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 448CDA0B041C5E1E1A-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7L6-920-xxx-7LA.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 920 981 R
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT RB8 3211  
   Coding: 0005231
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 4894CE3B38347A7EF6-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 7L6-819-008.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 819 008 G
   Component: Standheizung E1MAC   
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3A70A4F376D818EE70-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<>CAN      0101  
   Coding: 0000006
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 70E446DB602492BE8E-5102

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 7L6-919-879.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 919 879 A
   Component: JCI PathPoint       2200  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 458AC70F0F2667160D-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: None
   Part No: 0AD 927 755 AT
   Component: TRANSFERCASE        0114  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 0D1A3F2F17D6DF5605-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 29: Left Light        Labels: 3D0-909-157.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 157 
   Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(l)  0001  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 66C8208352E04C0EE4-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 7Lx-907-553-34.clb
   Part No: 7L0 907 553 F
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3P1 3081  
   Coding: 0015521
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 3668B0C342C0FC8E94-5120

1 Fault Found:
01772 - Signal from Level Control Pressure Sensor (G291) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L0 959 760 
   Component: Sitzverstellung     0703  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 77F67DC7054AC5864F-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 7L6-919-887-DVD.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 919 887 M
   Component:      Navigation     0047  
   Coding: 0000101
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 50A4E65BC064B2BEAE-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 39: Right Light        Labels: 3D0-909-158.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 158 
   Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(r)  0001  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 67D62D8755EA5506DF-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7L0-959-933.lbl
   Part No: 7L0 959 933 J
   Component:    HSG              5115  
   Coding: 0000085
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 438ED9170112592623-4ACE

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 701 H
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0201

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L0 959 702 H
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0201

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7L0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7L0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201

1 Fault Found:
01737 - Potentiometer for Mirror Adj. Vertical; Pass. Side 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 7Lx-035-4xx-47.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 035 456 
   Component: 08K Audioverst.     0105  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 70E446DB602492BE8E-5120

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 035 456 
   Component: 08K Audioverst.     0105

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 7L6-035-186-DVD.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 035 186 E
   Component:        Radio        0047  
   Coding: 0014042
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 356AB7CF5FC6F7969D-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 7L0-955-119-V2.clb
   Part No: 7L0 955 119 K
   Component: Front Wiper         4027  
   Coding: 0000341
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 376832
   VCID: 3C7CA2EB7CEC26DE62-5102

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS     010510 054  0403  
   Coding: 00133665
   Shop #: WSC 31414  

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer        Labels: 7L0-907-383-1D2.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L0 907 383 G    HW: 7L0 907 383 G
   Component: ANHAENGERELEKTRONIK 8854  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 3874BEFB48D40AFE86-5120

2 Faults Found:
02579 - Trailer; Left Brake Lamps (M65) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0

02580 - Trailer; Right Brake Lamps (M66) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0


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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 7L6 907 441     HW: 7L6 907 441 
   Component: J772__Rearview      0051  
   Revision: 00H07000    Serial number:    PA8 J620685
   Coding: 0000101
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 72E04CD36E28A0AE78-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 6E: Ctrl Head Roof        Labels: 7L6-919-044.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 919 044 J
   Component: DACHDISPLAY         0538  
   Revision: 00700538    Serial number: 2009266.06    
   Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
   VCID: 3E78A8E36AF034CE4C-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 7L0 919 283 F
   Component: 0E Einparkhilfe     1107  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3972BBFF73DE13F679-5120

1 Fault Found:
00435 - Front Right Inner Parking Aid Sensor (G333) 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent

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You may find info by searching for "Self Study Program 840193"

I have a smaller engine, but VW put several programs in place to decide when to regenerate the DPF

in my car, the measured soot stays close to zero all the time, while another quantity, calculated soot, increases in a steady course until the trigger for regeneeration happens. there is also a reported miles since which can also trigger the regeneration.

you may want to log a few extended drives using advanced measuring values to see how the parameters relate.

suggestion is to log, start, drive then stop the log, followed by analysis.

you can pick up to 12. experiment with anything labeled soot or regeneration.
 
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ivagp said:
is it tuned
Click to expand...

Not tuned

Interesting to me that both 001 and 011 now read 0% soot and show no changes when they should be increasing.
 
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mikeme said:
You may find info by searching for "Self Study Program 840193"

I have a smaller engine, but VW put several programs in place to decide when to regenerate the DPF

in my car, the measured soot stays close to zero all the time, while another quantity, calculated soot, increases in a steady course until the trigger for regeneeration happens. there is also a reported miles since which can also trigger the regeneration.

you may want to log a few extended drives using advanced measuring values to see how the parameters relate.

suggestion is to log, start, drive then stop the log, followed by analysis.

you can pick up to 12. experiment with anything labeled soot or regeneration.
Click to expand...

My Advanced Measuring Blocks button is grayed out. i'm afraid the 2006 (T1) EDC 16's are not smart enough.
 
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mikeme said:
You may find info by searching for "Self Study Program 840193"
Click to expand...

I posted a picture of my Regeneration for Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) while driving a few years ago.

I asked how I can find this setting again. Uwe said Adaptation Channel 13? I've looked but I can't find it.

DPF readings and health of DPF
 
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Then you can log measuring blocks. just have to look for related values, pick three, and log away.

:vc

the time period for DPF soot cycles are tens to hundreds of miles.

in my limited experience, there are labled values which read nothing, and others that reveal much info.

VW was not thinking of us when they did the programming. :rolleyes:
 
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I know to look at 068 or 075. The problem is the soot load duty cycle is stuck on 0% in both ECM's. Last log with reasonable numbers was 8K miles ago. Not sure what would cause both to read 0% for miles now.
 
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I think you've actually burnt much less oil (or that oil was very low SAPS) than the ECM computed (those 42g of ashes, solely based on mileage I think), and your measured soot is being hidden inside those 42 grams of ash.
 
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Your readings are different than the ones on my 2.0 liter CBEA engine.

is there a place to see miles or hours since last regeneration?

what are the names of the fields for the fields in Measuring block 068 and 075?


My experience is that more logging leads to more understanding.

but pretty much you have to look one Measuring block at a time till you find something interesting.

(this means sitting in the car with the ignition at least on, and the computer hooked up with VCDS running.)
 
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Unfortunately, we never got a label file for the V10, despite some teases from Sebastian as early as 2008 on the German forum. So we get cryptic labels like "grams" or "%."
 
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Make your own........... because that's what I do from day one, with a VAG tester, when data is lacking in a publication.

Start with unplugging one sensor at a time, while further observing the block which is unknown, and write it down when you get a hit.
Further reference any BITs, unplugged, plugged in at idle, part throttle etc.. + DTC type created for each when manipulated.

The repair manual has clear details in the OBD2 spec for tests of the readiness PID values for OXS.

Time to play in 0x33 and take some initiative.
 
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Eric said:
I think you've actually burnt much less oil (or that oil was very low SAPS) than the ECM computed (those 42g of ashes, solely based on mileage I think), and your measured soot is being hidden inside those 42 grams of ash.
Click to expand...

I would like very much to believe this explanation. Not sure how a measured value (soot) can be masked by calculated ash.
 
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Jack@European_Parts said:
Oh an further .......the PDF for readiness generation on the V10 PD will ref short VAG blocks for the respective tests.......:p
Many tests are the same as in the early BEW if ref the original VAG blue books........

Back to RTFB!

Short VAG or WTF is Jack talking about = http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?3147-What-is-Jack-talking-about-0x01-08-000
Click to expand...

Thank you Jack. I read you every day so I do know what you are talking about. Where would I find 0x33?
 
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0x33 is the Hex address for OBD2 mode to enter a PID.

It will be in your main VCDS screen ...........
 
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