VW RCD510 to VW RNS315 Errors

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Hi All,

I've been using VCDS for a few years now and never realised there was a support forum until I researched some issues I am having with a retrofit on my 2010 VW Scirocco!

I have the later spec 2010 VW Scirocco with the white / highline MFD. I've never been keen on the RCD510 and when a RNS315 with Nav, DAB and Bluetooth come up from a 2014 VW Scirocco I thought it would be an ideal swap.

However, I've had a lot of problems coding it to the car to get everything to work correctly. I have now got it all working, however I clearly have some coding issues with the CAN gateway (module 19) and the Nav (module 37) that has me scratching my head.

Log below:

Code:
Sunday,12,June,2016,16:22:41:11170
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.4.1 (x64)
Data version: 20160216
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ13ZAV413011   License Plate: M9OCD_LATESTSCAN
Mileage: 162100km-100724mi   Repair Order: 0000



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Chassis Type: 13 (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 14 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 47 52 56 77
         

VIN: WVWZZZ13ZAV413011   Mileage: 162100km-100724miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
 
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Address 01: Engine (CBB)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBA.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 022 LC    HW: 03L 906 022 G
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG  4623  
   Revision: 13H02---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0001072
   Shop #: WSC 00572 210 88269
   VCID: 71EC41D56882B8B681-8024

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AN    HW: 1K0 907 379 AN
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H45 0107  
   Revision: 00H45001    
   Coding: 763B60F5092300FD6E0B06E5901A00823400
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 7EF66AE9E9DCD7CE0C-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 DA    HW: 1K0 907 044 DA
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 133 1213  
   Revision: 00133026    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 69DC29B540524076C9-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086     HW: 5K0 937 086 
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    008 0019  
   Revision: BC008001    
   Coding: 48100A38F037E100408800807000012643713B88636D85605C8000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 71EC41D5A882B8B681-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K8 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 09060  22  0602 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 030809 05  54  0402 
   Coding: 0330ED

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 1K0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 919 475 K    HW: 1K0 919 475 K
   Component: PARKHILFE     005 1706  
   Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 0 263 004 388 
   Coding: 100001
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A7EA6F9B5743BEE70-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 376 A    HW: 3C0 907 376 
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H07 0070  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 29070905610001
   Coding: 000180
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 27586F8D56C6B6061F-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AE    HW: 1K0 909 605 AE
   Component: 0H AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 003D1D01F5NV  
   Coding: 0012360
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 6FE847AD7EB6AE4697-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME486103520

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME4902726DF

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME77173F12K

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME7F334B12O

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CF    HW: 1K0 953 549 CF
   Component: J0527           056 0111  
   Coding: 0000532
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 78FA7CF10BF8E9FE46-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H05 0010  
   Coding: 00000130
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 920 971 A    HW: 1K8 920 971 A
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0207  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 170F00
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
   VCID: 316C81D56002F8B6C1-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AA    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H16 5223  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 4120K098070AF2
   Coding: E9A81F06500612004001
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 66C62289514C6F0EE4-8032

1 Fault Found:
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 162102 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 920 971 A    HW: 1K8 920 971 A
   Component: IMMO          H05 0207  
   Serial number:               
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
   VCID: 316C81D56002F8B6C1-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 B    HW: 5N0 035 342 B
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0084  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7667500564    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2646628951CCAF0E24-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 279 G    HW: 3C8 035 279 G
   Component: RNS315-EU   H76 0410  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2N0601156
   Coding: 040700110100040000009002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 2F6887AD7636EE46D7-807A

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 
   Component: EUR_W_V5  0055 

1 Fault Found:
1048659 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 162102 km
                    Date: 2016.06.12
                    Time: 13:41:33


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 701 H    HW: 1Q0 959 701 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2116  
   Coding: 0016949
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 397CB9F5707230F679-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 177    3001  
   Revision: 00H17000    
   Shop #: WSC 00581 210 89740
   VCID: 316C81D5A802F8B6C1-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 456     HW: 5K0 035 456 
   Component: KonzernAmp 8K H06 0340  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: BP218198612594
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1 A01003
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1.rod
   VCID: 67D82F8D9E467606DF-8032

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 702 H    HW: 1Q0 959 702 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2116  
   Coding: 0016948
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A7EA6F975743BEE70-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:23)--------------------------

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers

Scott
 
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Remove "Telephone (77)" from CAN Gateway install list. Clear codes and run another scan. If you had an external bluetooth interface you need to disconnect it and remove it from the car when installing the RNS-315.
 
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Remove "Telephone (77)" from CAN Gateway install list. Clear codes and run another scan. If you had an external bluetooth interface you need to disconnect it and remove it from the car when installing the RNS-315.

I lose the steering control for telephone if I remove '77' from the CAN gateway install list.

No other Bluetooth module on car (it was one of the reasons I installed the RNS315)...
 
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I lose the steering control for telephone if I remove '77' from the CAN gateway install list.

No other Bluetooth module on car (it was one of the reasons I installed the RNS315)...

Double-check coding on your steering wheel and RNS-315. 77 is not supposed to be enable if you have RNS-315. Here is a sample coding for an operational RNS-315 with steering wheel controls and no 77 registered in the gateway.

0400040104000F000001100A
 
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Double-check coding on your steering wheel and RNS-315. 77 is not supposed to be enable if you have RNS-315. Here is a sample coding for an operational RNS-315 with steering wheel controls and no 77 registered in the gateway.

0400040104000F000001100A

Steering wheel coding seems correct. As soon as I remove 77, the steering wheel phone button and push to talk button doesn't work and the phone display disappears from the MFD...
 
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Very strange....

Some things to look for.. make sure that the RNS-315 is speaking BAP to cluster...

Not sure, but your steering wheel controller only speaks LIN2.0... the CH version will speak LIN 1.3 & 2.0. Once again just obvious things that jump out... Other area's to look could be CAN-Gateway version. there are others on the boards that could jump in.
 
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Just let the car sleep for a while and try again.

Bluetooth otherwise works ok?
I changed my golf rns510 and Premium BT to rns315 and all is as should.
 
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Just let the car sleep for a while and try again.

Bluetooth otherwise works ok?
I changed my golf rns510 and Premium BT to rns315 and all is as should.

It's been sleeping for two days :)

Yes, everything works perfectly ... Even push to talk on the steering wheel.

Just the error codes saying otherwise ...
 
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Very strange....

Some things to look for.. make sure that the RNS-315 is speaking BAP to cluster...

Not sure, but your steering wheel controller only speaks LIN2.0... the CH version will speak LIN 1.3 & 2.0. Once again just obvious things that jump out... Other area's to look could be CAN-Gateway version. there are others on the boards that could jump in.

It is speaking dynaudio BAP as anything else means no sound and lots of error codes regarding speakers ...

I did think perhaps a newer CAN-gateway could be needed ... As the car is a 2010 but the RNS 315 is 2014 with latest software. So possibly some kind of compatibility issue.
 
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It's been sleeping for two days :)

Yes, everything works perfectly ... Even push to talk on the steering wheel.

Just the error codes saying otherwise ...
Sleeping with the 77 coded out?

The only way you get fault free is 77 unchecked. No other way.
 
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Sleeping with the 77 coded out?

The only way you get fault free is 77 unchecked. No other way.

Ah no ... will that make a difference?

Regardless unticking 77 means I lose the control on steering wheel and also phone on the MFD display. I'd rather just leave the error, as it is not affecting anything.
 
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My gut guess would be to replace the gateway. Cheap and easy. If coding 77 somehow allows for the pass-thru of the button commands to the RNS-315, then the logical progression would be a "routing issue".. and that would be handled by the gateway.
 
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My gut guess would be to replace the gateway. Cheap and easy. If coding 77 somehow allows for the pass-thru of the button commands to the RNS-315, then the logical progression would be a "routing issue".. and that would be handled by the gateway.

Any idea which one I would need?
 
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I would recomend 7n0..AN or BC.
So you would also get rest assist as a little extra :)
 
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