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    Hello All,

    I still waiting for a solution!

    So its verry strange when i recode the FEUL Tank ore the TIRE CIRCUMFERENCE ore ABS byte 27 the fehler comes after 4 days WHY 4 DAYS!
    But when i clear the fehler the fehler comes back after 15 hours.

    Is ther no way you can do a basic settings Instrument cluster ore ABS brakes???
    If possible please suggestion how to do!!

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    Happy New Year to All,

    I have update of my problem.

    When I activate by 10 bit 2 acceleration on the intrument cluster ore de-activate the acceleration works Always so even when i make it 7E ore 7A.

    My old instrument cluster has Always acceleration on the instrument cluster.
    So i think the settings are from the gateway branded.

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    Hello All,

    I would like to know why I can not change this setting with 17.1.2.

    Illumination_algorithm-Pointer_illumination_algorithim > terminal_58xd_log_bus_parkinglight to Not present.

    And the following tekst is after 15.7.4 disappeared.

    Illumination_algorithm-Scale_switching_algorithm > parking_light.

    I want to see if the error message has to do with this settings.




    Quote Originally Posted by DV52 View Post
    Barstanders:

    You made the following observation in your post #4 that I found odd "When I erase the error it will come back after 15+ hours." (my bolding)

    Anyhow, to test my hypothesis I created a compare spreadsheet using the admaps from the old/new clusters that you posted (see HERE). Whilst there are some minor differences in settings, the most obvious (IMO) is the addition of the 2 x adaptation channels in ID #190 & #191 in your new cluster (see below)

    • ID 190 (1)-Illumination_algorithm-Scale_switching_algorithm > parking_light
    • ID 191 (2)-Illumination_algorithm-Pointer_illumination_algorithim > terminal_58xd_log_bus_parkinglight


    I have these two adaptation channels in my control module and (as the descriptor suggests), they are used to determine when/how the needle and clock dials illuminate

    Given your "15+ hour" comment and the existence of these 2 x new adaptation channels, I'm wondering if the DTC appears when the parking lights switch-on? You might try clearing the DTC, then turning-on the parkers to see if the error message is related to this activity. Or you could try clearing the DTC and setting these adaptation channels to not active, or lds.

    As there are no physical wires that connect to the instrument cluster for the Parker/Terminal 58d function, I assume that these signals are transmitted via the convenience CAN bus. If so, then it's entirely likely that the Parker-on signal is created initially by the BCM (Hex09) as this is where the rotary light switch is terminated and because the BCM is also involved in the convenience CAN bus. I'm not sure if there is a code Byte/Bit, or adaptation channel setting in the BCM that enables this message - perhaps someone else here can provide further comment. I'm also not sure how the old cluster managed this function since these two channels were missing (perhaps these activities were entirely dependent on the phototransistor in the old instrument cluster)

    Don

    PS: Other than the error message in the auto-scan, what actual problem is evident with the new cluster?

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    Key Warning olso works on my instrument cluster i have programm it today.
    Byte 1 bit 4.

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    Hello Again,

    I have read on the MQB coding site Germany that the build a Virtual cockpit in a Audi A3 2015!

    A tekst of this site.

    Grobe "Anleitung":
    1. Armaturenbrett vom A3 Facelift eingebaut
    2. Auf MIB2 (MMI+) umgebaut und spezielle Freischaltungen der SWaP.
    3. MOST-Bus Bifurkation gebaut und MOST Lichtwellenleiter nebst HSD-Leitung vom MIB zum neuen VC verlegt.
    4. ALLE STG wie Gateway und co auf den neusten Stand gebracht .
    5. Online/GeKo den neuen Schalttafeleinsatz anlernen, Immo, Kessy....
    5.2. ABS komplett neu codieren und sämtliche Grundeinstellungen durchführen.
    6. ne Menge Proficodierarbeit - nicht mal eben Stemei-Klick Klick. Kennlinien usw.
    7. Passende Verbindung #5F <> VC #17 herstellen, da nicht dokumentiert muss ua direkt auf die UDS# geschrieben werden - mit VCDS _nicht_! möglich.
    8. viele Kleinigkeiten bzgl Variantenkonflikte überprüfen - nun läuft alles! fehlerfrei! (Y)

    So i see on point 5 that the ABS will recode and ther have done basic settings.

    Do i need to do this olso after retrofitting instrument cluster.

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    Hello All,

    I long time I have a isseu with my instrument cluster on my Golf 7.

    Today i have test that when my car lights switch is OFF, the instrument cluster will not ligt on. only the needle.

    When i switch to AUTO or light position the instrument cluster lights.

    I test it with my friends car olso Golf 7, the instrument cluster of his car lights Always even with OFF position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barstanders View Post
    Hello All,

    I long time I have a isseu with my instrument cluster on my Golf 7.

    Today i have test that when my car lights switch is OFF, the instrument cluster will not ligt on. only the needle.

    When i switch to AUTO or light position the instrument cluster lights.

    I test it with my friends car olso Golf 7, the instrument cluster of his car lights Always even with OFF position.
    barstanders: hello again - your retrofitted instrument cluster certainly has been a problematic little beastie - as is evidence by this fulsome thread!!

    Not sure if you are aware (my apology if you are), but the illumination for the two clocks on the instrument cluster on a mk7 are never really "off" with a Terminal 15 voltage. They are always switched-on, but controlled by a photo-transistor (and an associated electronic circuit) that lives in the tacho dial between the 7 and 8 numerals - see below:



    That's the hardware part - the software part lives (not surprisingly) in the module @ address hex17 and it takes the form of a set of adaptation channels with the term "dimming_characteristic_curve_adjustment" in their title. There is a bunch of these channels for each aspect of the instrument cluster's illumination (including the two clocks). These adaptation channel settings can be tweaked to produce all sorts of lighting effects (both good and bad!).


    So in brief, the role of the photo-transistor is to modulate the cluster illumination in concert with the prevailing light levels in the cabin (the transistor "gain" changes with the quantity of light that falls onto the transparent body of the photo-transistor). In bright daylight conditions, the lighting levels are increased and in cloudy, low ambient light instances, the illumination is scaled-back. Grab a torch and shine the light into this spot to see the effect. An entirely different lighting curve comes into play for night time conditions.

    Anyway, if you want to try "customizing" the clock lighting, then you might be interested in the specific tweak HERE and there is another (more general) tweak HERE that has a further explanation (more of a hypothesis, really) about how the cluster illumination might work on a mk7.
    Don
    Last edited by DV52; 04-23-2017 at 08:19 PM.
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    Hello DV52,

    I have read your post before.
    But when i see the car of my friend and the lights Always on i think maybe this will be the iseu. ( fehler )

    Grab a torch and shine the light into this spot to see the effect. An entirely different lighting curve comes into play for night time conditions.

    When i do this light comes into verry bright night conditions.

    I now for sure the fehler have to do with ABS brakes.
    This is what the vw garage olso say when i drive a couple months ago.

    I have olso read somewhere on MQB coding.de the retrofit olso a instrument cluster and after the the recode the abs again.

    But the problem with vcds is you can not do much on the ABS, recalibrate basic setting the possibletiy that you damage the abs is strong.
    Even after 4 years Ross Tech cant make label files for the ABS.

    But when i read Xagico pdf files he nows more then Ross tech about bit and byts..

    Ross Tech 2017 must be the year you complies this hopefully.

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    Hello All,

    After months i have resolve the fehler!

    I have change the instrument cluster with one which will fit to my car ( this was the first msitake )
    The instrument cluster had 44 km so the orginal km have been put to the cluster.

    Thanks to Happay parts in Germany.

    Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
    Part No SW: 5G0 920 870 HW: 5G0 920 870
    Component: KOMBI 335 0555

    I have olso put i other gateway wich was olso possible to my car, the other gateway AC version was not compitible with my car.

    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 M HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
    Component: GW MQB High 122 1143

    Thanks to Labo carparts Germany.

    And ofcourse everthing has been build en program in the Netherlands by BM Onderdelen, olso thanks to them i have now 2 weeks without one fehler.

    Ross tech moderator you can close this thread!!!

    Everyone who have put any sugestion THANKS.

    Code:
    Tuesday,27,June,2017,17:35:26:42750
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZDP010048   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: AU (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZDP010048   Mileage: 54941km-34138miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZB)       Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 016 E    HW: 04E 907 309 A
       Component: 1.2l R4 TSI   H08 7695  
       Revision: WAH08---    
       Coding: 01110032232415082000
       Shop #: WSC 51969 000 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016E 001011
       ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016.rod
       VCID: 2468B6F82F7D0161AD-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AC    HW: 5Q0 907 379 D
       Component: ESC           H75 0437  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 01FA6AA120212A6C0377060401CB2580560454C06080A4F30028F02AC0
       Shop #: WSC 56452 002 104857
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 008020
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_008.rod
       VCID: 7DDEA39CEC5790A982-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5G0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 R    HW: 5G0 907 044 R
       Component: Climatronic   H02 0503  
       Revision: 00001K06    
       Coding: 00020004200100011005000000101000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 123465
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 002017
       ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_002.rod
       VCID: 364C7CB089E183F103-8062
    
       Fresh Air Blower Front: 
    
       Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 
    
       Air quality sensor: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AA    HW: 5Q0 937 084 L
       Component: BCM MQBAB H   H14 0112  
       Serial number: 00011227800350
       Coding: 00040846C2C102FB0BA44080B11C0708100A000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 123465
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 011001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_011.rod
       VCID: 77D2B1B4CE6BBAF9D8-8022
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A    HW: 5G1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    120910  042 0551 
       Serial number:         120924160900
       Coding: 0E4DD5
    
       Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547     HW: 5Q0 955 547   Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLFS  024 0042 
       Serial number: Y12M09D26H11M47S40S4
       Coding: 06A8DD
    
       Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
       Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0313 
       Serial number: 000000000ZY1306406H5
    
       Alarm horn: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
       Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
       Serial number: 00000000000056969920
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 5Q0-919-298.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 298 A    HW: 5Q0 919 298 
       Component: PARKHILFE PLA 011 0029  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 61131226402555
       Coding: 0031161041
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000 003014
       ROD: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000_003_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3D5E639CACD750A9C2-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 C    HW: 5Q0 959 655 C
       Component: AirbagVW20    011 0361  
       Serial number: 003F5R00E6ZJ
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF004800000065
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00057
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002126
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
       VCID: 40A01A68DB253D41A9-8014
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 310 12
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35767000000E2845EB00
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 708 13
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35867000000ED2CC6D0F
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 910 12
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502A90D19C31C0EK
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 910 12
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502AD0CD5EB313CY
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 210 12
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502B30CD5EB4531M
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AA    HW: 5Q0 953 549 
       Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 1510120003004H
       Coding: 8400
       Shop #: WSC 51454 001 104857
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 75CEBBBCD467C8E9CA-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 920 870     HW: 5G0 920 870 
       Component: KOMBI         335 0555  
       Coding: 07A502002390000800087A00040000
       Shop #: WSC 99179 211 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008026
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_008_VW37.rod
       VCID: 66ECECF099C1337173-8032
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 M    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
       Component: GW MQB High   122 1143  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000210963
       Coding: 030100042B086400EF000648080F00010001000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 009013
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_009.rod
       VCID: 3B5A6D84B2C35E99FC-806E
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 J    HW: 5G0 959 442 J  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
    H14 0035 
       Serial number: 23130000529820100291
       Coding: 280000
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C    HW: 5Q0 915 181 C
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8042 
       Serial number: 5430458201          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 B    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0025  
       Serial number: 29051301100188
       Coding: 001F0220D000020000001000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 40A01A68DB253D41A9-8014
    
       Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 A    HW: 5Q4 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000000243883
       Coding: 010000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 L    HW: 5Q0 909 144 L
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  119 1021  
       Coding: 03
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 123465
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_008.rod
       VCID: 3D5E639CACD750A9C2-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 B    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0023  
       Serial number: 06031302090088
       Coding: 001F0020DE00020000801000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 3FA21994A6DB42B9D0-806A
    
       Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 A    HW: 5Q4 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000000247280
       Coding: 090000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 846 A    HW: 5G0 035 846 
       Component: MU-S-N-ER     038 0486  
       Serial number: V1F01510120522
       Coding: 02730001FF00000011110001000800001F0103940100010045
       Shop #: WSC 12345 666 54321
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002039
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
       VCID: 2772A1F45E4BEA7988-8072
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605 D    HW: 5G0 919 605 D
       Component: ABT_Std_Nav  H51 0022 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9NJ902C5F      
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 866 AF    HW: -----------
       Component:  ECE 2017/18  --- 0067 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    No fault code found.
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