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    How to install fogs on S model Mk7's (long version)

    Hello, i have a 2016 Sportwagen S MT with halogen headlight no fogs. My BCM is 5Q0937087ABZ00. VCDS says "this module does not support fog lights". I called my VW guy at the dealer for a SE with fog and a SE LP with fog. VW says they all use the same BCM. Should i just try to scan the cars to get long coding to update mine? I am dumbfounded on why they all have the same part number but mine wont support fogs. Anyone have any ideas? thanks!!

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    It sure wouldn't hurt to post a scan from yours and one from a car that supports what you want.

    Oh, and in the case of MQB (Mk.7) lighting questions, a scan might not be enough. Get Adaptation Channel Maps from both cars as well.

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    How do i scan the Adaptation Channels?

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    [Applications]
    [Controller Channel Map]



    Controller Address = 09
    Login or security access: leave blank
    Function: Adaptation
    Output: CSV File

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    Will do that this weekend. I am afraid that my BCM coding might be different already as I had a 3rd party change my taillight coding for my EuroTails with amber sidemarkers. I will try to scan a stock S model as well. Does AT make a huge diff compared to MT for BCM? My car was a special order with manual so it is going to be hard to find one anywhere to scan.

    thanks UWE!

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    I'm reasonably confident that any differences due to AT vs. MT can be accounted for.

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    Ice racer: Hello. That's a very interesting project indeed!!

    Uwe's suggestion will go a long way to help those reading your post to understand what kind of DNA is in the car (particularly the BCM admap). While you are doing this, I provide some further information below as a thought prompt for other considerations that might aid your project:

    Regardless of what your "VW guy" has said, IMO it's always a good first step to physically sight the pertinent pins on the BCM - whilst it's not an absolute guarantee, seeing that the BCM has the correct pins actually installed on the connector is always a good sign (and if the pins are not installed, then you can be guaranteed that the BCM doesn't support the function). To this end, I enclose the picture below, which I have cut-and-paste from the Sportswagon wiring diagram.



    As you can see, I've also included a picture of the physical BCM (my apology if you are already familiar with the socket structure for the BCM). You will find that the actual pin numbers are embossed into the bottom of the plastic housing, near the cut-outs for the pins.

    So the pins to sight are pin #45 and #5 on the A socket (for the actual lamps) and pin #29 on the A socket (for the rotary light switch). If these pins are evident, then I suspect that the project is live - alas if these pins are absent, then you will not be able to proceed with your current BCM.

    I've also included a picture of the coding change that will be required to the BCM to tell it that you have installed the actual fog lights and the new rotary light switch (with fog light capabilities). Note: the P/N from which the long coding screen was taken is slightly different to the BCM P/N that you posted - so you will need to confirm the Bit structure in my picture on your car.

    Finally, you will doubtless need to do some Leuchte programming to instruct the BCM how to energise the wires that you have connected from the new fog light fittings. This is where the admap that Uwe requested becomes important (incidentally, it takes about 40 minutes to create a BCM admap on my mk7, so make sure that the battery is in a good condition, or have the car running). The two pertinent Leuchte-sets will be
    • Leuchte12NL LB45 - this is the left side fog lamp
    • Leuchte13NL RB5 - this is the right side fog lamp

    I suspect that the boffins at VW HQ have set the 19 x adaptation channels for these two Leuchte-sets to "not active", but let's wait until you post-up the admap and you have confirmed that the BCM is fog-light ready before we discuss how to change these channels

    Don
    EDIT: Ooops - I forgot to mention that even if the factory fitted fog light pins may be missing on your existing BCM, Leuchte-programming can be used to "apply" the fog light function on another, unused set of BCM pins. The only thing that's necessary if you want to try this alternative, is that there is a set of unused Leuchte pins on the BCM (generally there is) and that the fog light pin from the rotary switch is present (i.e. pin #29 -A socket)
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    Bits 2 and 3 dont exsist in ky coding. I can try to screen shot it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceRacerX View Post
    Bits 2 and 3 dont exsist in ky coding. I can try to screen shot it for you.
    IceRacer: The absence, or presence of the bits on the long coding screen is less important than posting-up the autoscan/admap information (as Uwe suggested) and sighting the pins on the BCM (IMO).

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    a couple of notes, I have ROW taillights with Amber turn signals installed and power folding mirrors before I purchased my VAGCOM.

    so my codes are different than stock and I do not have an original scan. ding the adaptation one now.

    and

    how do I shrink this?

    Code:
    VCDS Version: Release 15.7.4 Running on Windows 10 x86
    Data version: 20160216
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Sunday,08,May,2016,17:55:57:58344
    
    Chassis Type: AU (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F 75
    
    VIN: 3VWA17AU1GM516884   Mileage: 2820km-1752miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CXBA)       Labels: 06K-907-425-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 906 264 F    HW: 06K 907 425 B
       Component: 1.8l R4 TFSI  H13 0003  
       Revision: --H13---    
       Coding: 091100122424002F0000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00221
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM18TFS0208V0906264F 001003
       ROD: N/A
       VCID: 3FA3BB32A69E54C647-806A
    
    No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM18TFS0208V0906264F" (VW37) 
    3 Faults Found:
    17178 - ROD - Unknown Error Code 
              - 00 [032]
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 2143 km
                        Date: 2016.04.29
                        Time: 13:38:13
    
    21320 - ROD - Unknown Error Code 
              - 00 [032]
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 2143 km
                        Date: 2016.04.29
                        Time: 13:38:13
    
    23128 - ROD - Unknown Error Code 
              - 00 [032]
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 2143 km
                        Date: 2016.04.29
                        Time: 13:38:13
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 T    HW: 3Q0 907 379 C
       Component: ESC           H32 0393  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 53165000000809
       Coding: 04FA6AA124210972007F020881C7292056249000408194B400430050C002
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 034033
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_VW37.rod
       VCID: 4BBB9FE2E226F866DB-801E
    
    2 Faults Found:
    0040 - Front Left Wheel Speed Sensor 
              C101A 01 [008] - Electrical Failure
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 175
                        Mileage: 2143 km
    
    16417 - Display for Tire Pressure Monitoring 
              C1146 02 [008] - Signal Failure
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 175
                        Mileage: 2143 km
                        Date: 2016.04.29
                        Time: 13:38:24
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 5G0-907-426.clb
       Part No SW: 5GM 907 426     HW: 5GM 907 426 
       Component: AC Manuell    H02 1001  
       Revision: 00001K01    
       Coding: 02020004200100000000000000000002
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 003019
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_SE37.rod
       VCID: 052F69DA84C2CE164D-8050
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-BV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 087 T    HW: 5Q0 937 087 T
       Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0162  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 86582310150599
       Coding: 000008424041804169E44000000407001000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00221
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 015002
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_AU37.rod
       VCID: 4CB99CFEE728FF5ED2-8018
    
       Slave 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5GM 955 119     HW: 5GM 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    150801  043 0581 
       Serial number:         151211180657
       Coding: 0E4DDD
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 J    HW: 5Q0 959 655 J
       Component: AirbagVW20    010 0830  
       Serial number: 003GCR03KV3T
       Coding: 8CCCFC00000000005000001AC24800000065
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002144
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_AU37.rod
       VCID: 47B3A3D2FE4E1C06FF-8012
    
       Seat occupant detection; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H11 0021 
       Serial number: IBH000000000003ZUE32
       Coding: 303133
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 510 15
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35700000000C8064E61N
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 510 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35800000000E172DF61W
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 010 15
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3510002C71CF1D1522C8
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 010 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3520002AB1CF1D2212A6
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 309 15
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3550002C91D1B621A252
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 309 15
       Component: FrontSensor_P  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3560002C71D1B62071B2
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9483008 - Seat Occupied Recognition 
              B10B3 00 [008] - Function Restriction due to Implausible Message(s)
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 175
                        Mileage: 2143 km
                        Date: 2016.04.29
                        Time: 13:38:31
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J524)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 K    HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
       Component: Lenks.Modul   075 0195  
       Revision: FF033033    Serial number: 20151102500369
       Coding: 0400
       Shop #: WSC 66564 385 16448
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
       ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
       VCID: 3A55CA26BDBC71EE70-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5G1 920 840 A    HW: 5G1 920 840 A
       Component: KOMBI         242 6420  
       Coding: 0BB51102A180CF0502086A001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00221
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 256F095A2402EE162D-8070
    
    1 Fault Found:
    16777018 - Function Restricted due to Interrupted Communications 
              U1110 00 [008] - -
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 196
                        Mileage: 2800 km
                        Date: 2016.05.07
                        Time: 17:13:52
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AH    HW: 5Q0 907 530 L
       Component: GW MQB Mid    211 2246  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 24101510800925
       Coding: 0101000830085900FB000008080F00000001050000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07026
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 013020
       ROD: EV_GatewConti.rod
       VCID: 77D31312CE2EAC864F-8022
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multifunction unit control module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 P    HW: 5G0 959 442 P
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H16 0101 
       Serial number: 29150001515720025325
       Coding: 30FFFF
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 593 E    HW: 5Q4 959 593 B
       Component: TSG FS        010 0031  
       Serial number: 9601152730397 
       Coding: 001103205000040000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT_AU37.rod
       VCID: 47B3A3D2FE4E1C06FF-8012
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 D    HW: 5Q4 959 811 D
       Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000002389556
       Coding: 011000
    
    1 Fault Found:
    65588 - Motor for Window Regulator 
              B1487 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 130
                        Mileage: 2014 km
                        Date: 2016.04.26
                        Time: 14:40:23
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 S    HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  126 1063  
       Coding: 0102
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00221
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB.rod
       VCID: 44A9B4DECF78371E1A-8010
    
    3 Faults Found:
    20228 - Databus 
              U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Reset counter: 175
                        Mileage: 2143 km
                        Date: 2016.04.29
                        Time: 13:38:14
    
    20740 - Databus 
              U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Reset counter: 175
                        Mileage: 2143 km
                        Date: 2016.04.29
                        Time: 13:38:14
    
    19716 - Databus 
              U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Reset counter: 175
                        Mileage: 2143 km
                        Date: 2016.04.29
                        Time: 13:38:14
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 592 E    HW: 5Q4 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       010 0031  
       Serial number: 9901153100925 
       Coding: 003103205C00020000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 813 111111
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT_AU37.rod
       VCID: 46ADAED6F944050E04-8012
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 D    HW: 5Q4 959 812 D
       Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000002391317
       Coding: 091000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 035 844     HW: 3Q0 035 844 
       Component: MU-S-S-US     620 0613  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 02730200FF00000051220001001808001F0100D40120010002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07026
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW26.rod
       VCID: 6CF93C7E87681F5EB2-8038
    
       Media Player Position 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 605 H    HW: 3G0 919 605 H
       Component: ABT_Std-2  H53 1031 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9RJW001SF      
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels: 5QE-035-285.clb
       Part No SW: 5QE 035 285 A    HW: 5QE 035 285 A
       Component: OCULowMQBUS   007 0568  
       Coding: 02730202C2821A017F1E06000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07026
       ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULowMQB 001006
       ROD: EV_OCULowMQB.rod
       VCID: 43ABB7C2CA76302623-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:47)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 05-08-2016 at 05:02 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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