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    2014 Mk7 Golf Cruise Control Retrofit Issues

    Hi all,

    We do a lot of cruise control retrofitting but yesterday was our first attempt at a Mk7 Golf. All went smoothly until the activation stage. I followed the guide on the wiki which was basically the same as lots of other models but ended up with no cruise working and a fault code in 01 Engine.

    I suspect the issue is something to do with regular CC vs ACC.

    All feedback appreciated.

    George


    Autoscan:

    Code:
    VCDS Version: Release 15.7.4 Running on Windows 10 x86
    Data version: 20160216
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Tuesday,12,April,2016,12:48:33:36034
    
    Chassis Type: AU (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZEW199121   Mileage: 37814km-23496miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CLHA)       Labels: 04L-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04L 906 021 M    HW: 04L 907 309 B
       Component: R4 1,6L EDC   H22 7635  
       Revision: 84H22---    
       Coding: 01110012032511092000
       Shop #: WSC 12244 002 104857
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI01104L906021M 002012
       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI01104L906021M_VW37.rod
       VCID: 2F6DF4EB76918E46D7-807A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    17149 - Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus 
              P1647 00 [167] - -
              MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 37814 km
                        Date: 2016.04.12
                        Time: 12:42:49
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AA    HW: 5Q0 907 379 G
       Component: ESC           H31 0457  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 63043000000600
       Coding: 01FA8AA1242909750378060241C42580512490C06082A4F300400068C002
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 7BF510BBF269A2E62B-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 5G0-907-426.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 426 M    HW: 5G0 907 426 M
       Component: AC Manuell    H01 0705  
       Revision: 00001K06    
       Coding: 00120104202100001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 003019
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_SE37.rod
       VCID: 3561C68394CDB4969D-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AC    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AC
       Component: BCM MQBAB M   H16 0124  
       Serial number: 00011331500983
       Coding: 03000842C201005B4BE44000000403081000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 012001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_AU37.rod
       VCID: 79F90AB3F85590F639-802C
    
       Slave 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G2 955 119 A    HW: 5G2 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    131103  042 0551 
       Serial number:         131106040006
       Coding: 0E4DDD
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 D    HW: 5Q0 959 655 D
       Component: AirbagVW20    014 0385  
       Serial number: 003F6R027VKP
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF00C800000065
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_AU37.rod
       VCID: 4189A253D005083631-8014
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 310 13
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 357670000008E9501E0-
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 310 13
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 358670000000E9501E0T
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 511 13
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502BF1050642230S
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 511 13
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502B51050645C29/
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 711 13
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502AD1118A32A267
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AB    HW: 5Q0 953 549 
       Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 07111304220240
       Coding: 1600
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_SE37.rod
       VCID: 76E3018FC94BFF8E54-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 920 851 A    HW: 5G0 920 851 A
       Component: KOMBI         152 2210  
       Coding: 27A402002300000800080800040000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008031
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 264311CF596BCF0E24-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 N    HW: 5Q0 907 530 D
       Component: GW MQB Low    123 1164  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0001221931
       Coding: 030000040B087300EF000048080E00010001000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 010015
       ROD: EV_GatewLear.rod
       VCID: 3C77D3A7B7E765DE62-8068
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 E    HW: 5Q0 915 181 E
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8043 
       Serial number: 4528841703          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 393 B    HW: 5Q0 959 393 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0025  
       Serial number: 06111302090906
       Coding: 003003208001040100001000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3E73D9AFA1FB77CE4C-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 P    HW: 5Q0 909 144 P
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  122 1043  
       Coding: 0103
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 010031
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB.rod
       VCID: 4189A253D005083631-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 392 B    HW: 5Q0 959 392 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0025  
       Serial number: 03111301100112
       Coding: 003001208001040100801000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3D71DEA3ACFD6CD655-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 5G0-035-MIB-ENT1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 867     HW: 5G0 035 867 
       Component: MU-E--ER      636 5800  
       Serial number: 06091300010433
       Coding: 02730000FF0000004011000100000000000000060000010000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CLGE 001025
       ROD: EV_MUEnt4CLGE_SK37.rod
       VCID: 69D95AF388F52076C9-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:39)--------------------------

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    There's nothing obvious here that jumps out at me...

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    GeoDCS: You are clearly a professional and it appears also well experienced in this type of retrofit, so I'm hesitant to make comment. But, without wishing to seem impertinent and just on the off-chance that it might have been missed - was the black/white wire shown in the WD below fitted between 01-Engine and steering wheel control modules?
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    Hi Don,

    No problem at all. It's always good to start with the basics! Yes I fitted the additional wire from the steering wheel controller pin 5 to the engine ECU pin 46.

    George

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    There's nothing obvious here that jumps out at me...

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    It is certainly strange. I checked all of the control modules in the car to make sure that I wasn't missing a cruise control related coding option. But turned up nothing.

    Hopefully we will get another Mk7 with cruise into the workshop before too long so that I can have a look at the coding on that. Otherwise I'm not sure where to go with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoDCS View Post
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    Hopefully we will get another Mk7 with cruise into the workshop before too long so that I can have a look at the coding on that.
    GoeDCS: I've got a mk7 with CCS. Here are the pertinent screens shots related to CCS from my car:

    For the 01 Engine module on my car:
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CHPA) Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 04E 906 016 G HW: 04E 907 309 A
    Component: 1.4l R4 TSI H08 5272
    Revision: WAH08---
    Coding: 01250032242405082000


    The code string from your engine module (from your autoscan) is 01110012032511092000, or displayed differently the code is:


    So it looks like Byte 5, Bit 5 is set (which it should be)

    For the 16-Steering Wheel module on my car
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
    Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AE HW: 5Q0 953 549 A
    Component: Lenks. Modul 007 0070
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 08011304220489
    Coding: 0500


    We have the same series module - the code for your 16-steering wheel is 1600 and the code for mine is 0500. So, on your car Byte 0 has a value of Hex16 which is binary 0001 0110. The upper-nibble value for this Byte suggests that you engage CCS via the turn indicator stalk. Is this correct? If this is not the case (i.e. you use the CCS steering wheel buttons) why not try changing the value of this Byte to Hex06 (even though this means "Cruise Control not installed", it's the setting that is used on my car - which has CC factory fitted

    Don
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    Hi Don,

    Thanks for the helpful reply. The kit we got from VW has the cruise buttons on the indicator stalk. Where are they on your car (which presumably has a factory fitted setup)?

    I haven't tried any other coding options in 16 steering wheel controller (didn't even occur to me to try) but I will certainly give it a go.

    George

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoDCS View Post
    Hi Don,

    Thanks for the helpful reply. The kit we got from VW has the cruise buttons on the indicator stalk. Where are they on your car (which presumably has a factory fitted setup)?

    I haven't tried any other coding options in 16 steering wheel controller (didn't even occur to me to try) but I will certainly give it a go.

    George
    George: on my car, the CCS is enabled via the steering wheel buttons.
    Don

    PS: Hmm........ is CCS a defined term on this forum?
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    Ok so just to follow up on this. We got the car back in this morning and tried every possible combination of coding without success. So in the end I had to admit defeat and undo the retrofit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoDCS View Post
    No problem at all. It's always good to start with the basics! Yes I fitted the additional wire from the steering wheel controller pin 5 to the engine ECU pin 46.
    Just a note, was is pin 46 ?
    If the diagram Don showed is correct for your car, it is pin 56 (94 pin connector).

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