Catalyst readiness test never initiates

RASALIBRE · Feb 29, 2016

2003 VW GTI AWP 1.8T, APR 91oct, TIP, intake, new stock oem down pipe cat back exhaust.
Car passes all other readiness tests, but the catalyst converter always reads "failed or incomplete."
The catalyst readiness test never initiates/turns on.
Result catalyst test always reads "test off."
I have gone through vag-com readiness procedures, and I have attempted to run the test in measuring block 046 numerous times with temp anywhere from 440*C-635*C.
Amplitude ratio is always at 0.00.
Brand new oem cat.
I need to pass smog.
What is going on?
What do i need to do?
Searched and still no clue.
Any help is appreciated.

Code:

Wednesday,17,February,2016,14:49:22:32831
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 15.7.4.1
Data version: 20160216
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VIN: 9BWDE61J934046135 License Plate: TODAY
Mileage: 277260km-172281mi Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
76

VIN: 9BWDE61J934046135 Mileage: 277260km-172281miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 032 LP
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0005  
Coding: 07500
Shop #: WSC 12596  
VCID: F7F7AB05D54DFB86CF-5102
9BWDE61J934046135 VWZ7Z0B6455082

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0001

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No: 1J0 907 379 AF
Component: ASR 20 IE CAN 0001  
Coding: 13404
Shop #: WSC 00001  
VCID: F5EBA10DCF418996DD-4ACE

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 909 605 A
Component: 11 AIRBAG VW5 0003  
Coding: 12593
Shop #: WSC 00001  
VCID: B56B610D8FC1C9961D-4ACE

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 906 J
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V07  
Coding: 07232
Shop #: WSC 00000  
VCID: AF6753656D9DF34657-5102
9BWDE61J934046135 VWZ7Z0B6455082

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901 
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001  
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00000  
VCID: F0E59019B023ACBE0E-50E6

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1J0 959 799 AJ
Component: 60 Zentral-SG Komf. 0001  
Coding: 04096
Shop #: WSC 00001  
VCID: 8609D6C1A2A7920EC4-4ACE

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1J1959801C
Component: 60 Tõrsteuerger. FS0002r  

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1J1959802D
Component: 60 Tõrsteuerger. BF0002r  

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1J4959811C
Component: Tõrsteuerger. HL0002r  

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1J4959812C
Component: 60 Tõrsteuerger. HR0002r  

1 Fault Found:
00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5) 
35-00 - - 

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
Part No: 1J0 035 180 D
Component: RADIO 3CP 0002  
Coding: 01401
Shop #: WSC 00001  
VCID: A045A05920435C3EDE-4ACE

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:51)--------------------------

Jack@European_Parts · Feb 29, 2016

Are you running the test in basic settings?

If you unplug the MAF and try to run the test under a force readiness, tell me if it turns on and then switches off immediately?

Do you want me to remote in?

Maybe FOD programming .........FYI, some APR code will willfully not run a readiness test on an 046.

Uwe · Feb 29, 2016

Most state I/M programs will allow one failed readiness bit...

Have you tried a good highway run?

You may also wish to ask APR for suggestions, since your ECU is running their software rather than stock.

-Uwe-

RASALIBRE · Feb 29, 2016

Thanks Jack, I run the test in measuring block 046 and then click switch to basic settings? (can't remember the terminology), step on the brake and the gas, and let it run at 2000rpms for as long as 15 min.
To clarify, running the test under a "force readiness" means running it in 046?
I'll try the MAF unugged and report back.
Remote in? That means you run tests from where you are?

Thanks Uwe, car has been driven approximately 2000 hwy/city miles (casual/spirited) as I initially thought that would be the answer.

Jack@European_Parts · Feb 29, 2016

Thanks Jack, I run the test in measuring block 046 and then click switch to basic settings?

Yeah but you might be in what's known as a learned loop since you did so much driving....+ it's FOD modified.

Remote in? That means you run tests from where you are?

Yeah get a TV setup for me to remote in,............ if you are up for it.

http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/windows/

Will do a default and lets see if we can burn through the tests real quick.

Contact me in PM for credentials to be supplied.

RASALIBRE · Feb 29, 2016

Turns out it was the APR software. Swapped in a stock ecu and everything passed. Thank you for your time and replies.

Jack@European_Parts · Feb 29, 2016

Just goes to show why it is important to have a stock controller for the street, with a valid diagnostic stack.......... and one for the track.

Doesn't matter what tuner you use.......

I think APR is being responsible by taking this stance to avoid EPA sanctions or other liability.
From what I have observed when in conjunction with APR's high flow cat and ecu upgrade, these ecus never pass the CAT readiness test and the test is shut off.
However........
Sometimes I think they were using the aforementioned forgiveness of the monitor to get a pass, that is used in many IM SMOG states.

John_E · Dec 22, 2016

Same problem. Stock 2001 Passat, 1.8T AUG. Have been driving for 2-3 weeks, including at least one 45-minute freeway trip, and in OBD-II mode, the readiness test still shows "catalyst efficiency failed or incomplete." Everything else is ready, and VCDS auto-scan comes completely clean, with no errors. CA used to permit one non-ready code, but that was (still is???) for evap. only, since so many people have loose gas caps. I need to get a full set of readies to get smogged.

Uwe · Dec 22, 2016

John_E said:
Same problem. Stock 2001 Passat, 1.8T AUG. Have been driving for 2-3 weeks, including at least one 45-minute freeway trip, and in OBD-II mode, the readiness test still shows "catalyst efficiency failed or incomplete." Everything else is ready, and VCDS auto-scan comes completely clean, with no errors. CA used to permit one non-ready code, but that was (still is???) for evap. only, since so many people have loose gas caps. I need to get a full set of readies to get smogged.

15-16 year old car. How many miles on it? How about the oxygen sensors -- are the they original ones? CATs and sensors do not last forever.

-Uwe-

Jack@European_Parts · Dec 23, 2016

Bad maf or air leak or weak fuel psi/volume

Fod ecu?

John_E · Dec 26, 2016

Uwe said:
15-16 year old car. How many miles on it? How about the oxygen sensors -- are the they original ones? CATs and sensors do not last forever.

-Uwe-

Thank you, Uwe. We drove it 90 miles yesterday, about 2/3 freeway, and now it finally shows catalyst ready. I took it in for CA smog test this afternoon and passed without incident. Had it not set its cat readiness, I was ready to replace the rear O2 sensor. (I replaced the MAF and the front O2 sensor previously, as well as most of the vacuum lines and fittings.

Jack@European_Parts said:
Bad maf or air leak or weak fuel psi/volume

Fod ecu?

... in other words, running too lean. Thank you, Jack. I have indeed had MAF and air leak issues in the past. Fortunately, as noted in my response to Uwe, it finally set the cat monitor after an out-and-back pair of 45-mile drives yesterday.

Jack@European_Parts · Dec 26, 2016

Ok now that it ran the test and passed, please display what the adaption amplitude value has achieved by logging in 0x01-08-046 for data record.
Thank you for posting the result in advance.

Catalyst readiness test never initiates

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