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    All sorted ✅ thanks for all the help.

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    Hello!

    My first post so welcome all

    My problem is similar to mentioned above. Fabia 16MY, after light collision (bumper, headlights, hood, airbags) - but I havent seen car before body repair so I'm not 100% sure about scale of damage. In 0x44 steering assist fault P1609. Only one red icon on dashboard - steering assist and not working. After "return to factory settings" procedure assist start to work but many other faults appears, mainly about steering angle sensor. It works, but raw value shows -142 degree at straight wheels. It is rather not possible to rotate steering column, as it fits only in one position. Also steering rack looking below the car doesnt seem to be dismantled recently. The basic settings cannot be done either using VCDS or VAS, also after logging in Security Access, or maybe I dont know how to do it.

    Please look at my Autoscan:

    Code:
    Saturday,26,August,2017,12:31:16:36988
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1
    Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Workshop Code: 031 73430 000063
    
    VIN: TMBEM6NJ0HZ102002   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: NJ-SK26 (6C0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 44 5F
    
    VIN: TMBEM6NJ0HZ102002   Mileage: 10090km-6269miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZC)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 027 BB    HW: 04E 907 309 AF
       Component: R4 1.2l TFS   H23 9085  
       Revision: R4H23---    
       Coding: 01110032230415080000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906027BB 001009
       ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906027BB.rod
       VCID: 65CA5F4564F1BA6E19-8030
    
       CAN Converter 01: 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    7150 - Implausible Data Received from Steering Angle Sensor Module (G85) 
              U0428 00 [039] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 10090 km
                        Date: 2017.07.07
                        Time: 02:07:03
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 23 C
                        Intake air temperature: 24 C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 13.853 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        CAN status - engine control module-Bit 0: 0
                        selected gear-Bit 0: 0
    
    Readiness: 1110 0001
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
       Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 R    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
       Component: ESP9.0i       H04 0006  
       Serial number: 08505782161109
       Coding: 41F5247D492333C2091410690053822492CC9008000DCA098F00
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100020
       ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
       VCID: 3E78D029A1E7C9B6B8-806A
    
    3 Faults Found:
    0625 - Display for Tire Pressure Monitoring 
              C1146 02 [137] - Signal Failure
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 10090 km
                        Date: 2017.07.07
                        Time: 02:07:03
    
    1141 - Implausible Data Received from Steering Angle Sensor Module (G85) 
              U0428 00 [137] - -
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 10090 km
                        Date: 2017.07.07
                        Time: 02:07:03
    
    1149 - Implausible Data Received from Steering Angle Sensor Module (G85) 
              U0428 00 [137] - -
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 10090 km
                        Date: 2017.07.07
                        Time: 02:07:03
    
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 6C0-820-045.clb
       Part No SW: 6V0 820 045 C    HW: 6V0 820 045 C
       Component: AC Manuell    H01 0204  
       Serial number:  1611041B-0515
       Coding: 100000001100100000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
       ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26_VW26.rod
       VCID: 3260F41965BF1DD64C-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 6C0-937-089-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 6C0 937 089 D    HW: 6C0 937 089 
       Component: BCM PQ26 Hi4R H10 0094  
       Serial number: 006308244111
       Coding: 0C0008504205497B43804000400703080000D80050013500000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 006002
       ROD: EV_BCMA0_006_SK25.rod
       VCID: 3162FB1560B926CE35-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 283 F    HW: 5Q0 919 283 
       Component: PARKHILFE 3K  H10 0054  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 39231633302445
       Coding: 0001050001
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 002024
       ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_002_SK37.rod
       VCID: 3C7CDA21B7FBDBA696-8068
    
    1 Fault Found:
    13637426 - Databus 
              U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 10090 km
                        Date: 2017.07.07
                        Time: 02:07:03
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 6C0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 K    HW: 6C0 959 655 K
       Component: VW20Airbag743 002 0380  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003TJ0090U15
       Coding: 88CCC000000000005C5400CF000800000000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
       VCID: 3B7ED93DB2F5DC9E9F-806E
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 611 16
       Component: SideSensor_Df  151 0800 
       Serial number: 3575H00A7218C262307B
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 711 16
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
       Serial number: 3585H009F22AE861D19%
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 910 16
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
       Serial number: 3517A00C72182421536-
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 910 16
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
       Serial number: 3527A00C7218242371C2
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9437211 - Igniter for Driver's Airbag 
              B1000 1B [137] - Resistance Too High
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 10090 km
                        Date: 2017.07.07
                        Time: 02:07:05
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 6V0 920 740 B    HW: 6V0 920 740 B
       Component: KOMBI         202 2310  
       Coding: 072401002180000801082A001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009051
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_SK37.rod
       VCID: 346CF2019FAB13E65E-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 6C0 909 901 A    HW: 6C0 937 089 
       Component: GW MQB A0     H10 0094  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 006308244111
       Coding: 030100042F0A640000000000000000010001050000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 013020
       ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_013_SK25.rod
       VCID: 2648184959777176D0-8072
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 915 181 B    HW: 6C0 915 181 B
       Component: J367-BDM  H08 0270 
       Serial number: 63321004145881883207
    
    1 Fault Found:
    197169 - Controls in Steering Wheel 
              U108E 00 [009] - No Communications
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 10090 km
                        Date: 2017.07.07
                        Time: 02:07:03
    
                        Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 13.9 V
                        Terminal 15: On
    
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 AJ    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
       Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  313 3242  
       Serial number: CGBT0578
       Coding: 000700
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016134
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW.rod
       VCID: 70E43E11AB336FC67A-8024
    
    3 Faults Found:
    1094656 - Steering angle sensor 
              B1168 54 [137] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 10090 km
                        Date: 2017.07.07
                        Time: 02:07:03
    
    1073664 - Steering End Stops Not Learned 
              C10AC F0 [137] - Unknown Error Elaboration
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 10090 km
                        Date: 2017.07.07
                        Time: 02:07:03
    
    1073920 - Steering End Stops Not Learned 
              C10AC F0 [137] - Unknown Error Elaboration
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 122
                        Mileage: 10090 km
                        Date: 2017.07.07
                        Time: 02:07:03
    
    
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    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* None
       Part No SW: 6V0 035 871 D    HW: 6V0 035 871 D
       Component: MU-E--ER      050 7080  
       Serial number: 15111600013194
       Coding: 03620000BE0000001111000401000A002F0000C40000010000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001032
       ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_SK26.rod
       VCID: 3874C63183C3F78672-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:34)--------------------------
    Also screenshot with angle sensor parameters:

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    https://www.fotosik.pl/zdjecie/e6725b88762a7207

    Hmm, I dont know how to paste image....

    Many thanks for any advices

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetronik View Post
    Hmm, I dont know how to paste image...
    Let me try:



    Yes, that works. I did it like this:

    [img]https://images84.fotosik.pl/769/e6725b88762a7207gen.jpg[/img]

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetronik View Post
    It works, but raw value shows -142 degree at straight wheels. It is rather not possible to rotate steering column, as it fits only in one position.
    The G85 data appears to come from the 44 (rack) itself rather than the slip ring in this car type. I couldn't get a diagram for this car so I used Polo information. Feel free to correct me if you believe G85 is in the slip ring!

    I think the -142 reading is the problem so please straighten the steering and then try Basic Settings: [*IDE03192*] Steering angle sensor: zero calibration w/ steer. wheel scales. That should store a set point of zero resulting in live readings of 0. If you get a SA required message try 17580.

    If G85 reports 0 the actual Basic Settings should be: [*MAS00815*] Steering angle sensor.

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    Hello all,

    I have one problem like VW_FI,


    6355968 - Crash Shut-Down Activated
    P1609 00 [009] - -
    Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 1
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 188
    Mileage: 12452 km
    Date: 2016.07.20
    Time: 16:24:03

    Engine speed: 893 /min
    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
    System status: ERROR
    Terminal 15 status: Terminal 15 on
    Voltage terminal 30: 13.72 V
    Power steering current consumption: 0.50 A
    Power steering current consumption: 0.50 A
    End stage temperature: 30 C
    Steering assistance: engine output: 0.00 %
    Sensor for motor position: 0
    Sensor for motor position: 0 /min
    Steering assistance: target engine torque: 0.00 Nm
    Steering torque: 0.03 Nm
    Steering torque: OK


    How to reset this error?
    Security Access -16 => Steering Aid 1***80 => Basic Settings => IDE02325-Reset to Factory settings => Go... and it running but have no end...

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    a full autoscan to start with?

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    I do note have a car, only EPS and CAN BusSimulation.

    If you want I resend a full autoscan from VW_FI
    Last edited by LeonID; 09-11-2017 at 10:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonID View Post
    I do note have a car, only EPS and CAN BusSimulation.
    It is entirely possible #44 needs information from other modules on the network that aren't installed in your bench setup. I would repeat the process after the rack is installed in a vehicle.

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    Here's a little video I put together to help anyone with the same issues.


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